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JamieThePainter

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i personally want NATO to get involved, more and more each day that this goes on. it's time to just slap the mother fuckers down, and then step on their glasses...let them launch a couple of old, outdated, quite probably defective nukes, there is as much chance of them exploding on launch or going astray as there is of them even heading in the right direction.
Reminded me of that video where Putin said he wanted to raise the nuclear alert level and his two stooges at the end of the table looked very nervous. I didn't think they were nervous about the prospect of a nuclear war, more that they were nervous about Putin finding out they'd already sold the nuclear innards for some fancy yachts :lol:


eta: https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ Always a fun website to visit.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Once the nukes get involved I'm of the opinion that you're probably better off being closer to the epicentre.
completely depends on the size of the exchange, any is bad, but the bigger it is, the badder it is...and the bigger the warheads, the worse it is. a one megaton bomb will take out about 80 square miles, but it would take 4 or 5 125 kiloton bombs to take out the same size area. one or two weapons won't be enough to trigger a nuclear winter, but 5 or 6 might be..again, depending on their yield...
i have very little confidence in russia's ability to hit anything further away than their European neighbors. we would have a lot of warning and ample opportunity to both defend against incoming missiles, and to launch a retaliatory strike...either way you look at it, it would be the end of russia's ability to act as an aggressor. same as a major chemical strike, that would be provocation for NATO to step in and remove the russian's ability to act as an aggressor...which should have already been done. weeks ago...
 

schuylaar

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I’d enjoy a drink called Physics Package. (That’s what the weaponeers call the bomb hardware. Case, fuze, guidance, permissive action link etc. round it out to a functioning bomb or standoff missile.)
Now to devise a recipe … worthy of an implosion device.

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Talk me out of it table.

Under the right conditions, molten aluminum can be one of the most explosive substances in the word.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Would they be so bold as to send it via the Black sea? If they did, it would be escorted and would require Turkish permission to deliver to Ukraine, but perhaps not Bulgaria of Romania. Or they could be going to France and then through Europe to Ukraine. Other allies are providing Ukraine with stuff too, Canada, France, the UK, Belgium, the Netherlands and even Germany have been supplying heavy equipment and artillery, along with the remaining soviet stocks from former Warsaw pact countries. Now Spain and Portugal are also providing equipment, along with Japan, South Korea and Australia. Fortunately all the NATO and most of the allied stuff uses standardized munitions to ease logistics issues.

The Spanish Navy ship will transport military equipment to Ukraine
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Talk me out of it table.

Under the right conditions, molten aluminum can be one of the most explosive substances in the word.
Yeah but it adds an off flavor.

I think a high aluminum content is used in the filler of thermobaric devices. The aluminum flash delivers almost all the heat pulse.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I'd say those Russians in Transnistria are doomed, or will be evacuated one day. I don't think any offensives in the west will work out too well, it's close to Ukrainian supplies from the west and the Ukrainians have plenty of well armed reservists and troops in the area. They are pushing mightily with repeated attacks in the east that are so far being resisted, it's a sign the Ukrainians are strong enough not to have to trade territory for time any more. They are chewing up plenty Russians and their equipment daily in the east as the Russians continuously reinforce failure. Another thing is the quality and motivation of the Russian troops is diminishing, as they grab reluctant men off the streets, trick and coerce the weak minded and stupid. Vlad can't replace his losses in manpower, the Ukrainians can and they are receiving additional tanks and modern artillery weekly, along with other useful things.
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Analysis: Russian forces eye Moldova, as forces edge east to breakaway Transnistria

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I noticed, i don’t like dramas. There’s a saying ,,she gets on like a fly on a shit”
Idk if it’s the exact translation but i think it makes the point
in US regionally (south, southwest) you’ll hear “like stink on shit” or one I like, “like ugly on an ape”.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Would they be so bold as to send it via the Black sea? If they did, it would be escorted and would require Turkish permission to deliver to Ukraine, but perhaps not Bulgaria of Romania. Or they could be going to France and then through Europe to Ukraine. Other allies are providing Ukraine with stuff too, Canada, France, the UK, Belgium, the Netherlands and even Germany have been supplying heavy equipment and artillery, along with the remaining soviet stocks from former Warsaw pact countries. Now Spain and Portugal are also providing equipment, along with Japan, South Korea and Australia. Fortunately all the NATO and most of the allied stuff uses standardized munitions to ease logistics issues.

The Spanish Navy ship will transport military equipment to Ukraine
Spain is an odd choice, they aren't conveniently located to Ukraine in any way, and where ever they drop stuff, it will have to be ferried across land a good distance.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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In Scotland we prefer "she's a cunt"
Quiff
Spain is an odd choice, they aren't conveniently located to Ukraine in any way, and where ever they drop stuff, it will have to be ferried across land a good distance.
I would have thought they would send it by rail, dunno the logic unless they are gonna go up the Adriatic to Italy or Slovenia and across Hungary to Ukraine by train, that would make the most sense. Hungary would at least allow transit and is in deep shit with America and other NATO members over their reluctance to supply old soviet tanks. Austria is neutral, not a NATO member, but might allow the shipment of equipment by rail, they are safe inside NATO, like their neighbors the Swiss.
 

injinji

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How much money has Biden now given Ukraine to fight this bullshit? Can we all agree at this point Ukraine ain’t gonna win? Can we stop wasting our money with this shit. Stop being bullied by Putin and acting like scared of him. If he nukes then Nuke him back. End this shit already.
Russia can not win. They have already lost. They can still kill a ton of women and children, but they can not win this war. The arms we are sending is cheap for what we are getting out of them. ie, a weak and disheartened Russia.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Versatility, is the hallmark of a good weapons system, this also has the added benefit of being cheap. If it works out in Ukraine, I would expect to see it and other similar types deployed widely by America and NATO members. The 300 can be used by ground troops on ground targets, even against helicopters and enemy drones. It can also be deployed from vehicles, boats, planes, helicopters and I imagine even submarines, even drone subs, built can be built to launch them like ICBMs at ships or shore targets. As future battery power doubles and triples, so will their range and endurance. So you could say Uncle Sam is testing out the technology against the most likely opponent. If a simple commercial octocopter can drop cheap antitank grenades on Russian tanks at night with ease, then the Russians will have no defense against switchblades and other sophisticated military drones. Since they are cut off from advanced technology, they will find it increasingly difficult to fight against western armies who use it.
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Switchblade: America's Suicide Drone Used to Destroy Russian Helicopters

 
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DIY-HP-LED

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This looks lethal, but you could mount the same number of switchblade tubes and room for reloads on a flatbed 5 ton truck with a extended cab for the drone operators and even a box on the roof of the truck cab for a tethered drone. 50 switchblade drones can take out entire enemy formations, 600s for the tanks and APCs and 300s for the trucks and other soft skins or dug in troops. This thing has enough range not to be at the front, but back a bit, so a truck and a small crew should work fine, a truck can carry 50 of the 600's if required too. Mounting it on a new robot platform seems a waste of time. Even a jeep or Humvee could carry a half dozen and an operator in the passenger seat and a trailer can carry plenty of reloads. These things are cheaper than most artillery rounds FFS at $6K for the 300s and require less manpower than artillery to deploy and use.
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NEW TRACKED UNMANNED VEHICLE BRISTLES WITH A WHOPPING 50 SWITCHBLADE SUICIDE DRONES || 2021

 

printer

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Reminded me of that video where Putin said he wanted to raise the nuclear alert level and his two stooges at the end of the table looked very nervous. I didn't think they were nervous about the prospect of a nuclear war, more that they were nervous about Putin finding out they'd already sold the nuclear innards for some fancy yachts :lol:
eta: https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ Always a fun website to visit.
Using the nukemap simulator I dropped the smallest US device on our airport. Resulted in 30 fatalities and 190 injuries. Selected surface rather than airburst to limit the damage. If the Russians had to take out an area that they could not otherwise, like the steelworks they could get the job done without starting a nuclear war. How people would feel about it? It would be first to break the taboo of using nukes for everyday combat but it probably would not cause a nuclear power to retaliate for Ukraine.
 

printer

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This looks lethal, but you could mount the same number of switchblade tubes and room for reloads on a flatbed 5 ton truck with a extended cab for the drone operators and even a box on the roof of the truck cab for a tethered drone. 50 switchblade drones can take out entire enemy formations, 600s for the tanks and APCs and 300s for the trucks and other soft skins or dug in troops. This thing has enough range not to be at the front, but back a bit, so a truck and a small crew should work fine, a truck can carry 50 of the 600's if required too. Mounting it on a new robot platform seems a waste of time. Even a jeep or Humvee could carry a half dozen and an operator in the passenger seat and a trailer can carry plenty of reloads. These things are cheaper than most artillery rounds FFS at $6K for the 300s and require less manpower than artillery to deploy and use.
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NEW TRACKED UNMANNED VEHICLE BRISTLES WITH A WHOPPING 50 SWITCHBLADE SUICIDE DRONES || 2021

The tethered flyer does not have a time restraint as compared to if it ran on batteries so the system could be placed beforehand in a location that the enemy will be going by and the tethered drone can act as its periscope over the trees. That is another thing that might trip up the drones, if there is a good tree cover on the targets and the drone snagged in the tree. But he, nothing is perfect. Rather than the tracked vehicle mounting a dozen on a remote controlled quad makes a lot of sense.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Using the nukemap simulator I dropped the smallest US device on our airport. Resulted in 30 fatalities and 190 injuries. Selected surface rather than airburst to limit the damage. If the Russians had to take out an area that they could not otherwise, like the steelworks they could get the job done without starting a nuclear war. How people would feel about it? It would be first to break the taboo of using nukes for everyday combat but it probably would not cause a nuclear power to retaliate for Ukraine.
It might result in the sudden destruction of the rail and road bridge at Kerch among other very painful consequences for the Russians. Precision strikes on them, even in Russia, or just give Ukraine a thousand cruise missiles to do with as it pleases and that's just for starters. Come pick up the M1 tanks and whatever else you want in western Poland, if Vlad thought he has problems now...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The tethered flyer does not have a time restraint as compared to if it ran on batteries so the system could be placed beforehand in a location that the enemy will be going by and the tethered drone can act as its periscope over the trees. That is another thing that might trip up the drones, if there is a good tree cover on the targets and the drone snagged in the tree. But he, nothing is perfect. Rather than the tracked vehicle mounting a dozen on a remote controlled quad makes a lot of sense.
In eastern Ukraine, it's wide open spaces, both a problem and opportunity. It's as easy to make killer suicide drones as it is to order containerloads of foam RC planes from China, they will make them to your design, even install the flight control computers, GPS and do almost everything else, except the programming and plastic explosive warhead. Good enough for Russians apparently!
 
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