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Christ on a cracker...

shimbob said:

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Claim 1: “Two days later, they started reading Fake News by CNN and NYT… lied and totally misrepresented the facts”


Reality:

CNN and The New York Times reported on a preliminary Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) assessment indicating that recent U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities delayed—not obliterated—Iran’s program .

• CNN Anchor Pamela Brown stated they were not disparaging the pilots, merely reporting that DIA found the damage was only temporary .
• The NYT maintained their reporting matched confirmation from government sources on the existence and content of that DIA assessment .

So it’s false that media “lied” or misrepresented facts—they accurately conveyed the intelligence assessment.




Claim 2: “These Patriots were very upset!… they knew the Success was LEGENDARY”

Reality:
While President Trump emphasized the mission as a success, he and Pete Hegseth did not dispute the leak’s existence or content; they called it “premature” or “low‑confidence” but never labeled it fabricated .


In fact, Hegseth confirmed DIA conducted such an assessment at the press briefing .


Thus, the claim that it’s “fake news” and a smear is misleading. The intelligence existed, and their strong pushback was more about timing and framing than denying reality.





Claim 3: “After 36 hours of dangerously flying through Enemy Territory… they landed”


Reality:


Verified accounts show the B‑2 bombers flew an ~18‑hour outbound mission over Iran and back, using multiple aerial refuelings, and did so without detection or combat engagement .


The mission did not take 36 hours of constant flying through enemy airspace—the timeline was complex but not as depicted.






The Bottom Line

1. CNN and NYT did not smear the pilots—they responsibly reported preliminary intel on strike damage.
2. The DIA report was real and acknowledged; Trump’s refusal to engage with its conclusions doesn’t erase its legitimacy.
3. Flight details were blown up—yes, long-range stealth bombers conducted the mission, but flight time and conditions were distorted.
4. Calling media “liars” is false — they presented evidence, context, and clearly labeled assessments as preliminary.

Why This Matters

• Media accountability: CNN and NYT aren’t making up intel—they are reporting what government agencies assess.
• Trustworthy intelligence: Acknowledging uncertainty doesn’t undermine the pilots’ bravery—it honors transparency.
• Clear communication: Political spin shouldn’t mask factual nuance crucial for public awareness.

shimbob said:

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Trying desperately to spin his reported failure as unpatriotic and an insult to "brave pilots."

Here's a spin for ya' Dotard: Release the complete Epstein Files.

lemondroptrichomes said:

Oil is down, and the markets are up.

The articles and social media posts you read wishing for Trump to look bad in some form or fashion at the expense of our nation’s prosperity, are probably not the best sources to believe as they’re wrong time and time again

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$2.38 for gas today . NATO happy, Iran quiet. Border secure . All horribly upsetting