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DIY-HP-LED

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Looks like the Russian army will take a long time to reform, these retired morons have no idea of the scale of the military cultural revolution required. They call for reinforcing failure and no fundamental change in doctrine, both are required, the days of massive slave armies in Russia are over. If hoards of them are massing for attack with obsolete junk or as infantry, modern arms can slaughter them en masse, that's what a lot of the older NATO stuff was designed to do. This would only lead to a more humiliating defeat for the Russians and economic catastrophe with a prolonged war that might spread even more along Russia's bordering states.
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Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, May 23
May 23, 2022 - Press ISW

Russian nationalist figures are increasingly criticizing the failures of Russia’s “special military operation” in Ukraine and are calling for further mobilization that the Kremlin likely remains unwilling and unable to pursue in the short term. The All-Russian Officers Assembly, an independent pro-Russian veterans’ association that seeks to reform Russian military strategy, called for Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin to declare war on Ukraine and introduce partial mobilization in Russia on May 19. The Assembly said that Russia’s “special military operation” failed to achieve its goals in three months, especially after the failed Siverskyi Donets River crossings. ISW previously assessed that the destruction of nearly an entire Russian battalion tactical group (BTG) during a failed river crossing on May 11 shocked Russian military observers and prompted them to question Russian competence. The Assembly’s appeal called on Putin to recognize that Russian forces are no longer only “denazifying” Ukraine but are fighting a war for Russia’s historic territories and existence in the world order. The officers demanded that the Kremlin mobilize all regions bordering NATO countries (including Ukraine), form territorial defense squads, extend standard military service terms from one year to two, and form new supreme wartime administrations over Russia, the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics (DNR and LNR), and newly occupied Ukrainian settlements. The officers also demanded the death penalty for deserters.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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This is the reason for increased arms flowing into Ukraine, increasingly it will focus on grain and food. It's why they must defeat the Russians in the east and break their army there, Then move south to Mariupol and blow the bridge at Kerch, it is not an option, it is an imperative, as is recapturing Crimea and ejecting any disloyal Russians there and in all of Ukraine. Call it ethnic cleansing, but it was done in America too after the revolutionary war, empire loyalists were expelled. It might not be necessary or desirable for Ukraine to do this, but they won't be allowed to form pro Russian political parties and will face wide spread hatred from the larger population. It depends more on their politics, than their language, religion, race, or ethnicity and that's why it's not really ethnic cleansing, but the expulsion or suppression of traitors who tried to destroy their country. Some will do prison time for the crimes they committed during the war. The mass expulsion of people from a country is unacceptable in the modern world, even Russian traitors from Ukraine, or American ones from America and that place is full of them.
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Retired Colonel: It's game over here if Russians do this
378,717 views May 24, 2022 CNN military analyst Col. Cedric Leighton (Ret.) explains why Russian forces are targeting Ukraine's railway infrastructure in the Dnipro region.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Kissinger said Ukraine must give in...
He would, since he is a war criminal and cold war imperialist himself. How does Russia win? Why should Ukraine submit and at this point with advanced weapons flowing in, will the Ukrainians completely destroy the Russian army in Ukraine? They have 80% of their combat power in Ukraine now and I doubt much of their equipment is getting out. Sure they can raise vast numbers of drafted demoralized troops, but can't equip them with even small arms, much less tanks that are little more than obsolete junk. Utter and complete Russian defeat in Ukraine is the answer, compromise is nether practical or wise, even in the face of nuclear threats. In deed every time they make one, we should supply another more deadly weapons system to the aid Ukraine gets and make it clear that this will be the result of such threats of nuclear war.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Can peace be reached if Ukraine gives in territory? | William Hague
4,521 views May 24, 2022 "It's a bit of an illusion to think that we can do a deal with Putin over this. He will never be satisfied while Ukraine exists as a functioning state." Former foreign secretary William Hague disagrees with Kissinger that peace can be reached if Ukraine gives in territory.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Coup against Putin would be triggered if one of his top officials refused to carry out a nuclear strike, Bellingcat expert says

  • Putin would face a coup if he orders a nuclear strike and is disobeyed, a Bellingcat expert said.
  • Defying his command would signal insubordination that may lead to "the death of Putin," he said.
  • Some leading Russian officials already believe Putin is losing his grip on power, the expert said.
Russian President Vladimir Putin would face a coup if one of his top officials ever disobeyed an order to launch a nuclear strike, according to Bellingcat's lead Russia investigator Christo Grozev.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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A consequence of the Russians losing the Ukrainian war and increasing western military technology, facing a technologically obsolete army of top of down driven slaves with poor morale. That technology also includes psychology and why people and armies fight, increasingly it needs to be for a good cause, to motivate troops and keep up public support.

If they can locate his nukes and him, along with every one of the 5000 artillery pieces they have targeting the south with precision missile strikes of various kinds from a few to hundreds of kilometers. The south recently said it had this capability, to wipe out their weapons, their leadership and most of the elites in their homes with precision missile strikes. A country like south Korea has no problem making precision missiles by the tens of thousands in several different varieties. They can make killer drones like switchblades en masse with little difficulty too, Taiwan has the economic, technical and industrial capability to do this as well.

They see that nukes don't stop Ukrainians from killing Russians in large numbers and the North Koreans have exactly the same kind of army and military doctrine as the Russians, a losing one. If they can come to an accommodation with China something might happen, now that Russia is off the table. A united Korea could be neutral like Finland, with the coming conflict between China and the west, meaning other Asian counties in their backyard supported by the west. Right now North Korea is a weak sister, in the event of trouble the south allied with America and Japan could roll to the Chinese border in a day after destroying the North's weapons and command and control systems in the first hour or less.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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If you think about it China is a more likely target for an unstable and desperate North Korea than America for nuclear blackmail as they become richer and the régime more desperate and unstable. What will the world food crises do to an already starving and broke North Korea? Looks like the South is done with them unless they dance to their tune, they turned down vaccines and other aid recently, even though only the elites are vaccinated in the country. North Korean army defectors are often full of parasites and severely malnourished already, when they can manage to escape from the mafia run prison.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Guess who is on the Ukrainian killer drone target list? Unless they ship him back to Russia, I doubt he will survive the war or be lucky enough to be captured. If they locate him, they might wait for him to meet with his staff at an HQ, then strike it with whatever will do the job, killing the lot of them.
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DIY-HP-LED

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That's the point Henry, it was Putin who inflicted instability on Europe, nobody else, you are perfectly willing to trade others freedom away and a chance for meaningful change because of fear. Henry is an appeaser, as long as he can trade away someone else's life and freedom for the illusion of security. As if a piece of Ukraine would be enough to satisfy the lust of an un humiliated and crippled Russia. Russia could control grain exports and starve millions at will or whim when it is refused yet another territorial concession or wants sanctions lifted. Controlling both Turkey's grain and oil as well as the black sea he would use Turkey against NATO, even more than it is being used now.

So give me what I want or I'll shut off your oil will be supplemented by give me what I want or I will starve millions, since threatening nuclear suicide no longer seems to work quite so well. A dying war criminal trying to call the shots for future generations the only problem is, this is not the USSR, it is far weaker and even worse.

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Roger A. Shrubber

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US, Allies 'Intensifying' Effort to Arm Ukraine with New Types of Weapons, Austin Says

A group of 47 nations met Monday and pledged new weapons shipments, including anti-ship missiles, as part of an intensifying effort to arm Ukraine in its nearly three-month-old war with Russia, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said.

The Harpoon missiles from Denmark -- along with attack helicopters, tanks and rocket systems from the Czech Republic -- were among aid announced by 20 nations, Austin said during a Pentagon press briefing. The missiles come as Russian warships are blocking grain exports from Ukraine's Odesa and other ports and threatening a global food crisis.
47 nations...47. why doesn't NATO just finish this stupid shit off? are we that worried about China? are putin's stockpiles of cold war era nukes that scary? how long are we going to let a glorified mob boss fuck up the world economy and starve people around the globe? it's past time to put putin down like the rabid biting dog he has proven himself to be.
i would love to see Ukraine kick the ever living fuck out of russia, but is it fair to them to let them take all the casualties, when they're removing a threat to world peace?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It's the only way out for Russia, blame the whole thing on Vlad and back out of all of Ukraine. However a timetable for free and fair elections among other commitments by Putin's successor are required before sanctions come off. If Russia wants to be an imperialistic asshole state, then it will be by the free will of it's people who will also suffer it's consequences, at least they get a say when things get bad enough or enough of the older ones die off. A free and fair media is a prerequisite for any of this to happen and the release of political prisoners and opposition figures.

That's how it ends for Russia, no matter what happens in Ukraine, however it will end badly for Russia in Ukraine too, unless cowards and fools throttle a determined courageous people fighting for not just their country and liberty, but that of other people as well, including those who would sell them out. Killing Putin is the answer, not kissing his ass, getting the Russians to do the fucker is the whole fucking idea! He stuck his neck out and we are gonna chop the fucking thing off.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Carrot and stick to China while fighting inflation, good policy.
it could be a good policy, it could influence China to quit supplying russia, AND to quit buying their gas and oil.
if we can help them out when their economy is in trouble, they'll remember that. if we can boost their sagging economy, who will they look to for future trade deals? who wants to start a war with their good, reliable, honest trade partners?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They sent 100 switchblade systems, a system is a controller and 10 drones. That's what we know about, the UK and Turkey make them under license too and there are many of the older 300 models available with the US having 7000, that are most likely due for replacement by something better, why not, they are very cheap, in terms of military weapons.

I posted video of the attack a few posts back on this thread.

Ukrainian special forces release video of military using foreign-made kamikaze drones
From CNN's Vasco Cotovio

The Ukrainian military has for the first time released footage of special forces using foreign-made kamikaze drones targeting Russian positions. According to the Ukrainian military, the drone was equipped with a powerful explosive that caused damage to a Russian tank after it flew into it.
"The combat use of kamikaze UAVs is a constant practice for SOF of Ukraine in the war with Russian invaders," the Ukranian military said. "This is a good example of how the help of foreign partners together with the training and professionalism of our soldiers give positive results at the front."
The US sent 100 Switchblade drones to the Ukrainian military in April. The small, portable, so-called kamikaze drones carry warheads and detonate on impact. The smallest model can hit a target up to six miles away, according to a company that produces the drones.
 
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