Depending on your latitude and climate, you may have already started your outdoor (or for those in the southern hemisphere, you're ending it?). I'm around 45.5n in NW Oregon, and I'll soak my seeds this Friday and start them in one gallon pots in the garage. Last year the first heatwave hit June 1st, and forced me out of the garage early because it got too hot in there. We'll see what this year brings. The plan is to put them outside in their final pots, end of the first week in June.
Feel free to post your grows and progress, I'd love to see all the outdoor gardens.
...since it's not the internet without pictures, here's some from 2020 and 2021...
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Open Outdoor Auto Thread, 2022
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Humanrob
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That's why I stopped using fabric pots outside as well, went back to old school plastic pots. Painted them white, that helped some, but then moved to wrapping them in reflective insulation to keep the sun off of them. That combination seems to work pretty well. In the end the root formation is not as impressive as with airpots or fabric pots, but everything is a compromise in the end.
Nutty sKunK
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I guess you can always establish the root system then plug the holes. Problem solved but with a better root system?
Might try that now as the big one is aching for more leg room. Droopy top fan leaves are the usual sign the roots are unhappy in some respect
Humanrob
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It would defeat the purpose of the airpot, but if you're concerned with the roots not having enough soil, can't you take the airpot and drop it (as is) into a larger pot and then fill in the soil around it? I'd think the roots would find their way out the holes and into the new soil? Even if it were a short wide pot, or a larger one that you only filled halfway, it would let the lower roots spread out more. Just some thoughts.
Nutty sKunK
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Not really as you’ll have lots more roots in the soil due to air pruning and no root circulation.
But what u just said is what I was thinking today. Just bury the pot and it’ll grow roots into the new soil.
Trouble is she stinks already. Full on lemon sweet skunky smell. Can smell it a few feet away already lol So don’t want it to end up like a tree xD
So will keep it in this pot until stretch is over then I’ll transplant to protect them
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Humanrob
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Something I've noticed over the years, is that outdoor plants can handle more nutes than indoor plants. Now I have some more evidence, for what it's worth. I had mixed a batch of N heavy 'grow' nutes up to split amongst the plants, and made a rookie mistake and didn't mix it well enough. Net result, one plant got most of the nutes, and it showed with some severe leaf curling.
Just a couple of days out in the sun, and the leaves are starting to un-curl. Here's a before (6/17/22) and after (6/22/22) -- it went outside 6/19/22:
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After:
Just a couple of days out in the sun, and the leaves are starting to un-curl. Here's a before (6/17/22) and after (6/22/22) -- it went outside 6/19/22:
Before:
After:
Nutty sKunK
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That’s crazy. Never seen a plant unravel itself like that before. What’s the humidity in the tent compared to the outdoors?
Humanrob
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I know, it's weird. In the garage they were not in a tent, just on the floor, and the humidity was consistently around 65%. Outside if fluctuated day to night, between maybe 75% and 50%, I haven't been paying that close attention so that's a bit of a guess on the outside. Maybe it saw the sun god and got religious, and the desire to 'pray' was stronger than the need to curl?
Nutty sKunK
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Well tbh there’s a lot more than just light emitting from the sun!I know, it's weird. In the garage they were not in a tent, just on the floor, and the humidity was consistently around 65%. Outside if fluctuated day to night, between maybe 75% and 50%, I haven't been paying that close attention so that's a bit of a guess on the outside. Maybe it saw the sun god and got religious, and the desire to 'pray' was stronger than the need to curl?
Perhaps it’s just about light intensity/duration as well. Think, only peak sun for an hr or so and unless you’re in the equator it’s always at an angle to the leaf surface. They do angle themselves but not every leaf.
But with indoor growing you have a direct angle to the light source. They get battered and transpire too fast drawing nutrients in at an uneven rate to the rest of the plant.
So 1hr of indoor light could equal 3-4hrs of sunshine cause of the angle.
Bet yea I’ve noticed you can feed them more outdoors than inside for sure
Kosher cake is getting a fair size!
Humanrob
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Your Kosher Cake is looking good! I've often wondered about the various impacts of light intensity vs. duration, and the whole science of light... but mostly it's something I only peripherally understand. I'm running 5 year old cob lights indoors that I DIY'd, so even my attempts and trying to mimic natural light are a bit behind the times.Well tbh there’s a lot more than just light emitting from the sun!
Perhaps it’s just about light intensity/duration as well. Think, only peak sun for an hr or so and unless you’re in the equator it’s always at an angle to the leaf surface. They do angle themselves but not every leaf.
But with indoor growing you have a direct angle to the light source. They get battered and transpire too fast drawing nutrients in at an uneven rate to the rest of the plant.
So 1hr of indoor light could equal 3-4hrs of sunshine cause of the angle.
Bet yea I’ve noticed you can feed them more outdoors than inside for sure
Kosher cake is getting a fair size!
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Nutty sKunK
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Looking lovely man! Should get a decent yield of all of them!
Id say do it before. Unless the heatwave is gonna be stressful, like 85+ shade temp.They also have a growth spurt after a watering which one warmer days u can do more of
Humanrob
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Thanks
Right now my phone app shows Sat/Sun/Mon as 92/98/92º, so that's the worst of this one. I guess I was wondering if it takes more energy to support the leaves, or if the extra leaves provide more valuable resources for the plant. Either way I'm sure they'll be fine. I took some leaves from the one furthest along in flower, to open up some more light for the lower developing buds. When in doubt, I tend to trim lightly.
gzussaves69
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Greenhouse update, Banana Og getting fat up top, while the Mystery mix autos are stacking up and well into flower mode.
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Humanrob
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We're getting full sun now, and a brief heatwave. Today could hit 100º and I've noticed it's about 10º hotter in the hoop-house. They survived last year's intense 'heat dome', they should handle this. Some of them are really stretching at this point.
The variety of genetics are showing a lot of differences in terms of overall shape, some stretching a lot, others bushing out. After this heatwave passes it'll be right around 6 weeks, time to top dress and I'll go through them individually and trim them up a bit.
Today is day 41
Some individual shots...
The Pineapple Sunrise, by far the furthest along in flower and stacking nicely. Gotta hand it to RocBud...
Jammy Dodgers is very compact and has a nice even canopy going.
And lastly the mutant runt, Brooklyn Sunrise, which I'm glad I kept because it looks like it will produce some decent samples. If it's like any of the other Dutch Passions I've grown, I'll be finishing this one indoors well into September. They really take their time.
The variety of genetics are showing a lot of differences in terms of overall shape, some stretching a lot, others bushing out. After this heatwave passes it'll be right around 6 weeks, time to top dress and I'll go through them individually and trim them up a bit.
Today is day 41
Some individual shots...
The Pineapple Sunrise, by far the furthest along in flower and stacking nicely. Gotta hand it to RocBud...
Jammy Dodgers is very compact and has a nice even canopy going.
And lastly the mutant runt, Brooklyn Sunrise, which I'm glad I kept because it looks like it will produce some decent samples. If it's like any of the other Dutch Passions I've grown, I'll be finishing this one indoors well into September. They really take their time.
Nutty sKunK
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Some nice colours coming in on the purple punch. A good week or so ahead of the rest. Showed sex on the second node! Quick plant so noted for next summer.
Humanrob
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She's a beauty!!
gzussaves69
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Greenhouse autos staying productive and the mystery mix #1 is starting to fill out, Banana Og getting fatter, smells like green Banana candy, mystery mix auto #2 smelling like fuel and taking shape.
