Time to break up the states?

HGCC

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I dont think anyone (large scale) really wants to leave, it's propaganda.

That said I like the idea and don't let the door hit you on the way out, please take Florida with you. Better be nice to that country of brown people to the south that also make up a pretty significant portion of your population. We ain't backing your shit anymore.

If it came to pass that CA left I would pack up and move there. Again though, the ideas that get floated around on the topic are stupid bullshit spread by the right.
 

Dorian2

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It is a 'this is played out Russian propaganda trolling thread' that is not even worth answering outside of slapping a warning label on it and moving on.
I disagree with you on this to a point. Canada has been dealing with some in the province of Quebec trying to separate for.......ever. We have a political party in Alberta that's been honking the same horn (pun intended) for a few years now as well. I'm not suggesting that there are a number of cases where outside interference and propaganda isn't complicit in adding to the fire. However, as a regular blue collar worker, the suggestion of separation is a real thing. It's been discussed here in my own family, at work, and amongst friends for years now. People are getting fed up with the political bullshit.
 

bam0813

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Haven’t seen much or heard much of the topic but I have to ask, hows it a right thing? What xtsho posted doesn’t seem real red and some of you guys seem down?
 

PopAndSonGrows

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I feel like even if California has a little po-dunk section of itself that wants to secede, so does probably every other state.

Good luck policing your streets, staffing hospitals and best of luck of you get "invaded". Don't let the door hit ya where the dog should've bit ya.
 

Kassiopeija

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I feel like even if California has a little po-dunk section of itself that wants to secede, so does probably every other state.

Good luck policing your streets, staffing hospitals and best of luck of you get "invaded". Don't let the door hit ya where the dog should've bit ya.
lol so how many times has the US been invaded? ah the old lie about the military for defense purpose
 

schuylaar

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Texas wants to leave and let's be honest California would want to same with Hawaii. Maybe many others.
Should each state have an option to leave peacefully? The in it for life thing is a bit dated.



They have no true infrastructure and the next cold snap will give up more dead; they literally did nothing but raise citizen's bills to pay for the last one of burst pipes etc.

Our issue with the GOP is they needed to be stamped out not just driven into hiding or we will never be done with them..the Tea Party bullshit turned into this letting Militias form.

I received a beautiful pic from Microsoft of the bridge in Bisbayne lit in rainbow for pride month. Very nice.
 
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doublejj

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A novel both timely and prophetic, Ernest Callenbach’s Ecotopia is a hopeful antidote to the environmental concerns of today, set in an ecologically sound future society. Hailed by the Los Angeles Times as the “newest name after Wells, Verne, Huxley, and Orwell,” Callenbach offers a visionary blueprint for the survival of our planet . . . and our future.

Ecotopia was founded when northern California, Oregon, and Washington seceded from the Union to create a “stable-state” ecosystem: the perfect balance between human beings and the environment. Now, twenty years later, this isolated, mysterious nation is welcoming its first officially sanctioned American visitor: New York Times-Post reporter Will Weston.

Skeptical yet curious about this green new world, Weston is determined to report his findings objectively. But from the start, he’s alternately impressed and unsettled by the laws governing Ecotopia’s earth-friendly agenda: energy-efficient “mini-cities” to eliminate urban sprawl, zero-tolerance pollution control, tree worship, ritual war games, and a woman-dominated government that has instituted such peaceful revolutions as the twenty-hour workweek and employee ownership of farms and businesses. His old beliefs challenged, his cynicism replaced by hope, Weston meets a sexually forthright Ecotopian woman and undertakes a relationship whose intensity will lead him to a critical choice between two worlds.
 
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