Mar- A Lago raided FBI Warrants

Roger A. Shrubber

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They will want Donald's ass nailed every which way including on Sundays and the more witnesses the better, it doesn't mean they get away with it either, just time off. They have to confess to ALL their crimes, not just those involving this case and they have to talk about any crimes they have knowledge of, and this guy was nuts deep in Republican affairs. The bigger the fish and the bigger the haul, the better the deal, ask Matt Gaetz's friend, he got a deal for Matt's ass, when they will bust it is anybody's guess. Donald was keeping his distance from Matt for a while, since he knows he's a potential rat.
We'll see what we see in 52 days. Trying to adjust for ten thousand variables will accomplish nothing but making you insane.
Good decent people tend to assume that others are good decent people, as well. Deplorable bastards assume that everyone else is the same... Polls are inaccurate at best, easily manipulated at worst. I'm hoping that the republicans horrendous behavior, and the democrats very good progress this year, will cement at least another 2 years of democrats in control, and hopefully another 6 years, at least.
The historic odds are against that, however, historic elections did not have anything close to the dynamics of current elections, so, back to staring into the void, hoping it doesn't stare back into me.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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We'll see what we see in 52 days. Trying to adjust for ten thousand variables will accomplish nothing but making you insane.
Good decent people tend to assume that others are good decent people, as well. Deplorable bastards assume that everyone else is the same... Polls are inaccurate at best, easily manipulated at worst. I'm hoping that the republicans horrendous behavior, and the democrats very good progress this year, will cement at least another 2 years of democrats in control, and hopefully another 6 years, at least.
The historic odds are against that, however, historic elections did not have anything close to the dynamics of current elections, so, back to staring into the void, hoping it doesn't stare back into me.
History never had Trump! Or an issue, who's best before date is long past it's expiry, like abortion, that the GOP has so firmly chained themselves to and Lindsey put the cap on. American history also never had a political party steeped in treason and fascism either (since 1860) or one controlled by a desperate psychopathic manic. Jeff Davis was an asshole, but he was a normal asshole.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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BREAKING: Appeals Court RESPONDS to DOJ Mar-A-Lago Search Motion and SETS DEADLINE for Trump
30,410 views Sep 17, 2022 The Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals has quickly responded over the weekend to the Department of Justice’s Motion for Partial Stay Pending Appeal and Ordered Trump to Respond to the Motion by Tuesday. The Department of Justice has argued the 100 classified records should not be subject to the special master process and Judge Cannon’s Order should not include those records.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump’s Indictment Is ‘Unavoidable’ In Mar-a-Lago Case, Says Former Prosecutor
397,436 views Sep 18, 2022 A Florida judge has forced the Justice Department to pause its criminal investigation into the Mar-a-Lago documents, but an appeal is already underway. Charlie Savage, Washington correspondent for the New York Times, and former Watergate prosecutor Jill Wine-Banks share why the special master slowdown won’t prevent former President Trump from being charged.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Trump’s Indictment Is ‘Unavoidable’ In Mar-a-Lago Case, Says Former Prosecutor
397,436 views Sep 18, 2022 A Florida judge has forced the Justice Department to pause its criminal investigation into the Mar-a-Lago documents, but an appeal is already underway. Charlie Savage, Washington correspondent for the New York Times, and former Watergate prosecutor Jill Wine-Banks share why the special master slowdown won’t prevent former President Trump from being charged.
what she fails to say is WHEN? it's gone way the fuck beyond leaving him free to damage the gop, he's doing irreperable damage to the country with every hate filled, bigoted, lying speech he gives, and he needs to be shut the fuck down, permanently, before he causes another incident like 1/6 but worse...or before he succeeds in selling the secret documents he still has at bedminster to putin or xi.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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which brings us to...they need to search every property he owns, from trump tower to the garage they park the mowers in at mar-a-lardo, and if they find one...ONE FUCKING MORE document, his ass needs to go down, in cuffs, on the front page of every paper in this country, for espionage.
 

printer

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Trump team resists special master’s request to explain declassification of Mar-a-Lago documents
Former President Trump’s legal team on Monday night resisted a request to elaborate on his claims around declassifying the documents recovered last month from his Mar-a-Lago home.

In a filing to the court-appointed special master that Trump requested, his attorneys said the “time and place” for making such a disclosure would come in a motion in a criminal trial as an effort to recover his property.

“Otherwise, the Special Master process will have forced the Plaintiff to fully and specifically disclose a defense to the merits of any subsequent indictment without such a requirement being evident in the District Court’s order,” Trump’s legal team wrote.

The resistance comes after Trump’s attorneys insinuated the former president declassified the more than 300 documents recovered from his Florida home but stopped short of fully making the claim in court filings.

“The government’s stance assumes that if a document has a classification marking, it remains classified irrespective of any actions taken during President Trump’s term in office,” Trump’s legal team wrote in a filing last week.

“There is no legitimate contention that the chief executive’s declassification of documents requires approval of bureaucratic components of the executive branch,” they added.

The Justice Department’s legal team seized on the hinting from Trump’s lawyer in their next filing.

“Plaintiff principally seeks to raise questions about the classification status of the records and their categorization under the Presidential Records Act (‘PRA’). But plaintiff does not actually assert — much less provide any evidence — that any of the seized records bearing classification markings have been declassified,” the Department of Justice (DOJ) wrote.

“Such possibilities should not be given weight absent plaintiff’s putting forward competent evidence,” it added.

Though presidents have broad power to declassify records, doing so sets off a chain of events, as the intelligence agencies that manage such records must take additional steps.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts on Monday filed a Freedom of Information Act request seeking the “standing” declassification order that Trump — outside of court filings — has pointed to in explaining the tranche of record in his home.

As Trump has fought to stop DOJ from reviewing the classified records, the department has argued he could have no possible claim to the documents, saying their classification labels indicate they are government and not personal property and that Trump has no reason to stop the executive branch from reviewing them.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3651209-trump-team-resists-special-masters-request-to-explain-declassification-of-mar-a-lago-documents/
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Trump team resists special master’s request to explain declassification of Mar-a-Lago documents
Former President Trump’s legal team on Monday night resisted a request to elaborate on his claims around declassifying the documents recovered last month from his Mar-a-Lago home.

In a filing to the court-appointed special master that Trump requested, his attorneys said the “time and place” for making such a disclosure would come in a motion in a criminal trial as an effort to recover his property.

“Otherwise, the Special Master process will have forced the Plaintiff to fully and specifically disclose a defense to the merits of any subsequent indictment without such a requirement being evident in the District Court’s order,” Trump’s legal team wrote.

The resistance comes after Trump’s attorneys insinuated the former president declassified the more than 300 documents recovered from his Florida home but stopped short of fully making the claim in court filings.

“The government’s stance assumes that if a document has a classification marking, it remains classified irrespective of any actions taken during President Trump’s term in office,” Trump’s legal team wrote in a filing last week.

“There is no legitimate contention that the chief executive’s declassification of documents requires approval of bureaucratic components of the executive branch,” they added.

The Justice Department’s legal team seized on the hinting from Trump’s lawyer in their next filing.

“Plaintiff principally seeks to raise questions about the classification status of the records and their categorization under the Presidential Records Act (‘PRA’). But plaintiff does not actually assert — much less provide any evidence — that any of the seized records bearing classification markings have been declassified,” the Department of Justice (DOJ) wrote.

“Such possibilities should not be given weight absent plaintiff’s putting forward competent evidence,” it added.

Though presidents have broad power to declassify records, doing so sets off a chain of events, as the intelligence agencies that manage such records must take additional steps.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts on Monday filed a Freedom of Information Act request seeking the “standing” declassification order that Trump — outside of court filings — has pointed to in explaining the tranche of record in his home.

As Trump has fought to stop DOJ from reviewing the classified records, the department has argued he could have no possible claim to the documents, saying their classification labels indicate they are government and not personal property and that Trump has no reason to stop the executive branch from reviewing them.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3651209-trump-team-resists-special-masters-request-to-explain-declassification-of-mar-a-lago-documents/
Why am I not surprised?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Why am I not surprised?
In the case involving trump, the special master to be appointed by the court is tasked with reviewing the documents seized at mar-a-lardo for personal items and potentially privileged material that may be subject to attorney-client or executive privileges.
it would seem that he needs to be aware of whether or not documents are actually classified, in order to make those determinations.
team trump got what it asked for, and they're still bitching. because that's what they do.
If he has one shred of integrity, Dearie will come back that personal items aside, there isn't one privileged item in the entire haul, and that the DOJ should be allowed to have all of it back, immediately...
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
In the case involving trump, the special master to be appointed by the court is tasked with reviewing the documents seized at mar-a-lardo for personal items and potentially privileged material that may be subject to attorney-client or executive privileges.
it would seem that he needs to be aware of whether or not documents are actually classified, in order to make those determinations.
team trump got what it asked for, and they're still bitching. because that's what they do.
If he has one shred of integrity, Dearie will come back that personal items aside, there isn't one privileged item in the entire haul, and that the DOJ should be allowed to have all of it back, immediately...
They did not expect to get one approved so quickly.
Then they did not expect him to actually do his job.
There is no floor to their weaselry.

The weaselry needs to be the focus of a bulletproof civil suit worth more than even the Russians will loan him.
 

printer

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They did not expect to get one approved so quickly.
Then they did not expect him to actually do his job.
There is no floor to their weaselry.

The weaselry needs to be the focus of a bulletproof civil suit worth more than even the Russians will loan him.
They thought he would be anti-DoJ because of the Carter-Page warrant he signed. That does not seem to be the case.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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BREAKING: Trump’s Lawyers ATTACK Special Master who THEY WANTED in new HUMILIATING legal filing
35,815 views Sep 19, 2022 In a stunning and embarrassing legal filing, Donald Trump’s lawyers just criticized the Special Master Judge Raymond Dearies proposed case management order because it asked Trump to answer what documents he declassified. Trump’s lawyers told Judge Dearie in the filing that they don’t want to answer that question now. Trump is not off to a good start before the special master.
 
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