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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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ActionianJacksonian said:
And nazis were socialists just like the communists, and still are. Their common enemy was Capitalism, expressed in Germany as the Jews and the West. Their common structure is obvious. Thanks for the re-enforcement.
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No, it was just part of the name and was started by a railway worker in Germany, it was anticommunist and far right, which is why it got support from industrialists and conservatives. It was very anti-union and workers had no rights; Hitler took over the party, much like Trump took over the GOP and for many of the same reasons.

I never understood why Trump didn't buy you guys some brownshirts, a snappy uniform would give ya a better sense of social cohesion. It could be another item he could market to the suckers. Though he'd have to order a lot of XXL and XXXL sizes for the gravy seals! Also, you guys need to get rid of the American flags and sport the stars and bars, which best represents your values. The definition of a false flag operation is a republican holding or wearing an American one.
 
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CunningCanuk

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ActionianJacksonian said:
And nazis were socialists just like the communists, and still are. Their common enemy was Capitalism, expressed in Germany as the Jews and the West. Their common structure is obvious. Thanks for the re-enforcement.
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Do you really need reinforcement? You’ve been wrong and doubling down on it throughout this thread. Nazis were not socialists and Hitler had no problem with capitalism or capitalists, as long as they continued to help support his army.

You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about.
 
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ActionianJacksonian

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DIY-HP-LED said:
No, it was just part of the name and was started by a railway worker in Germany, it was anticommunist and far right, which is why it got support from industrialists and conservatives. It was very anti-union and workers had no rights; Hitler took over the party, much like Trump took over the GOP and for many of the same reasons.

I never understood why Trump didn't buy you guys some brownshirts, a snappy uniform would give ya would have a better sense of social cohesion. It could be another item he could market to the suckers. Though he'd have to order a lot of XXL and XXXL sizes for the gravy seals! Also, you guys need to get rid of the American flags and sport the stars and bars, which best represents your values. The definition of a false flag operation is a republican holding or wearing an American one.
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Did Lenin and Stalin's wholesale slaughter of competing communists and socialists change the fact they were communists and socialists?
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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ActionianJacksonian said:
Do you find youtube a good source for history? Perhaps that's the source of your woes.
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No, I read the original by William L. Shirer, plus lots more History on the period and events surrounding it, something you have not. However, these are pretty good documentaries that cover the high (or low in this case) points and will give you the basics. Real history is like life, complicated in some regards and simple in others, the Devil is often in the details, so books are best, though there are a few fascist historians who are outliers.

Take Hitler for example, he was far more electable in 1933 than Trump, was a vegetarian who never swore and was adored by his staff, who he was kind and considerate to. However, Adolf had a dream/ nightmare, that he wasn't too shy about sharing with the world, it involved the extermination of millions, way more than just the Jews.
 
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ActionianJacksonian

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DIY-HP-LED said:
No, I read the original by William L. Shirer, plus lots more History on the period and events surrounding it, something you have not. However, these are pretty good documentaries that cover the high (or low in this case) points and will give you the basics. Real history is like life, complicated in some regards and simple in others, the Devil is often in the details, so books are best, though there are a few fascist historians who are outliers.

Take Hitler for example, he was far more electable in 1933 than Trump, was a vegetarian who never swore and was adored by his staff, who he was kind and considerate to. However, Adolf had a dream/ nightmare, that he wasn't too shy about sharing with the world, it involved the extermination of millions, way more than just the Jews.
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Does it explain how bolshevism posed a threat to its little bother, national socialism and thus needed to be eliminated by Hitler?
 
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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ActionianJacksonian said:
Did Lenin and Stalin's wholesale slaughter of competing communists and socialists change the fact they were communists and socialists?
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They murdered people because Lenin was a narcisst and Stalin was a psychopath in a culture where life was cheap, as it still is. Both communists and far right Nazis murdered millions, so did Mao in China and Popot in Cambodia. Ideology has little to do with it, authoritarian governments do though. At least communism got off the ground and lasted for 80 years, some dumb bastards advocate Libertarianism, a system so bad nobody on the planet ever adopted it! You would need to put a gun to folk's heads for that one too!

Like it or not we are all headed for communism, if our global civilization keeps going as it has, machines will do most of the work and work will become a privilege, not a right. Technology allows welfare states, we will have the means for people to either live lives of leisure or become useless mouths to feed. Technological progress is not steady, but the rate of change accelerates over time. Already tens of thousands have been thrown out of work by automation in electronic assembly, it's getting so automated it can now be economically on shored.

Trade makes ya rich and it's been known for a long time the more trade the greater the wealth and standard of living, globalization works. So do multicultural societies, when immigrants arrive today, they mostly do so by plane and with the internet they can bring their culture with them and talk to the folks back home, they don't assimilate as they once did. In a couple of decades Spanish could be an official language in America, they weren't immigrants, but were a founding people, along with the natives, English, French and Spanish, they didn't come to modern America, America came to them.
 
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ActionianJacksonian

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Like it or not we are all headed for communism
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There it is. Man it's like pulling teeth with you, but we finally got there.

So, is ushering in world wide communism your main motivation for attacking America as you do and is that because America is the largest obstacle to this thing you are so in tune with?
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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ActionianJacksonian said:
There it is. Man it's like pulling teeth with you, but we finally got there.

So, is ushering in world wide communism your main motivation for attacking America as you do and is that because America is the largest obstacle to this thing you are so in tune with?
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No, it's just inevitable with technological progress and recent examples, the economy won't be able to function as it once did. I dunno how much wealth distribution will be involved and advocate none of it, it just obvious and predictable. People won't have jobs to go to. Take the switch to EVs that will happen over the next decade in lock step with battery technology. EVs have far fewer parts than an ICE vehicle, no fuel tank, exhaust or cooling system, even the brakes will last since most braking will be regenerative. There is little to go wrong with an EV that has a long-life cheap battery, some even have the motors inside the wheel hubs. EVs will be cheaper to produce, buy, maintain and operate, the number of auto mechanics will be a fraction of those today.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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ActionianJacksonian said:
Did Lenin and Stalin's wholesale slaughter of competing communists and socialists change the fact they were communists and socialists?
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They called themselves that as camouflage. They were fascists wearing the hot, bloody pelt of the actual socialists they eliminated. You keep ascribing reality to a deliberately deceptive name.
 
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