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DIY-HP-LED

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Atlantic's Franklin Foer: Trump Indictment 'Inevitable'

406,940 views Oct 16, 2022 The Atlantic's Franklin Foer joins Jonathan to discuss his provocative new piece, "The Inevitable Indictment of Donald Trump," and why he thinks Attorney General Merrick Garland is going to bring forth the charges by Spring 2023.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If Garland doesn't indict Trump with in 30 days of the election, he's a failure and a coward. The evidence is overwhelming for a fast trial in DC and a speedy conviction with Trump taken into custody upon arrest, like everybody else, if he is not taken into custody on indictment, he will be upon conviction. No judge would release Trump on his, his word, he has none to give.

So, I'd say indictments for Donald a couple of weeks after the election, if not sooner. Donald will announce his run for POTUS to try and get ahead of it, especially if the republicans take the house and the polls say they will, we will see.

 

Roger A. Shrubber

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If Garland doesn't indict Trump with in 30 days of the election, he's a failure and a coward. The evidence is overwhelming for a fast trial in DC and a speedy conviction with Trump taken into custody upon arrest, like everybody else, if he is not taken into custody on indictment, he will be upon conviction. No judge would release Trump on his, his word, he has none to give.

So, I'd say indictments for Donald a couple of weeks after the election, if not sooner. Donald will announce his run for POTUS to try and get ahead of it, especially if the republicans take the house and the polls say they will, we will see.

"A second Republican aide warned an indictment “could actually end up helping the [former] president politically.“People have been talking about splintering support and dampening enthusiasm among Republican voters for him. An indictment could actually galvanize and reunify Republicans around him,” the aide said, predicting the Republican backlash to an indictment would be stronger if Garland brings an indictment later in the 2024 election cycle. "
good...that's great. that means he still loses, and the republican nominee loses by an even larger margin...they're fucked, and don't even realize they're bent over the kitchen table yet.

"GOP aides and strategists warn there’s a risk of political violence in response to any indictment against Trump. The former president warned last month that if the Department of Justice indicts him, “you’d have problems in this country the likes of which perhaps we’ve never seen before.”
“I don’t think the people of the United States would stand for it,” he warned."
I think trump will be surprised at what the people of the United States will stand for...his supporters are a minority of a minority...i HOPE they start some shit, that will provide the perfect opportunity to round them up and try each and every one of them for domestic terrorism. then they can all be together in prison...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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"A second Republican aide warned an indictment “could actually end up helping the [former] president politically.“People have been talking about splintering support and dampening enthusiasm among Republican voters for him. An indictment could actually galvanize and reunify Republicans around him,” the aide said, predicting the Republican backlash to an indictment would be stronger if Garland brings an indictment later in the 2024 election cycle. "
good...that's great. that means he still loses, and the republican nominee loses by an even larger margin...they're fucked, and don't even realize they're bent over the kitchen table yet.

"GOP aides and strategists warn there’s a risk of political violence in response to any indictment against Trump. The former president warned last month that if the Department of Justice indicts him, “you’d have problems in this country the likes of which perhaps we’ve never seen before.”
“I don’t think the people of the United States would stand for it,” he warned."
I think trump will be surprised at what the people of the United States will stand for...his supporters are a minority of a minority...i HOPE they start some shit, that will provide the perfect opportunity to round them up and try each and every one of them for domestic terrorism. then they can all be together in prison...
Not to prosecute him for the secret documents would mean the end of the rule of law and Trump running around lose. People's faith in the justice system would be shattered and people will wait for a short time after the election, but after a certain point, Garland had better act. It looks like he's lining up his ducks to do that, who knows, they could have Donald in cuffs the morning after election day, Christ knows there is enough evidence to hang the fucker.

If they convict him in DC, there's a good chance he might show up for his TV trial in Georgia shackled and dressed in orange, with bad hair. So there's that... :lol: Having him tied to his chair and ball gaged on TV would be icing on the cake!


‘Clear Sign’ Trump Will Be Indicted: Weissmann On DOJ’s Latest Move

236,686 views Nov 1, 2022 MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell and Andrew Weissmann, former FBI General Counsel and former Chief of the Criminal Division in the Eastern District of New York, discuss a new report from The Washington Post about a new prosecutor joining the Justice Department team investigating the classified government documents Trump took to Mar-a-Lago and why he thinks it means an indictment is much more likely.
 

Herb & Suds

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Not to prosecute him for the secret documents would mean the end of the rule of law and Trump running around lose. People's faith in the justice system would be shattered and people will wait for a short time after the election, but after a certain point, Garland had better act. It looks like he's lining up his ducks to do that, who knows, they could have Donald in cuffs the morning after election day, Christ knows there is enough evidence to hang the fucker.

If they convict him in DC, there's a good chance he might show up for his TV trial in Georgia shackled and dressed in orange, with bad hair. So there's that... :lol: Having him tied to his chair and ball gaged on TV would be icing on the cake!


‘Clear Sign’ Trump Will Be Indicted: Weissmann On DOJ’s Latest Move

236,686 views Nov 1, 2022 MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell and Andrew Weissmann, former FBI General Counsel and former Chief of the Criminal Division in the Eastern District of New York, discuss a new report from The Washington Post about a new prosecutor joining the Justice Department team investigating the classified government documents Trump took to Mar-a-Lago and why he thinks it means an indictment is much more likely.
He is totally not guilty
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ec121

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By 30 days after the election the heat on Garland will be so intense, he will vaporize! :lol:
I'm fairly certain they didn't conduct a search of his golden palace without having enough to bring forward indictments so I wouldn't be surprised if it happens on 11/9, but I'd prefer it happens Christmas Eve.

In any case, if no indictments are ever handed out, then this is the worst look possible and will springboard him into possibly a successful 2024 run, whereas right now most Republicans are wanting a perfect reason to drop him.

At the end of the day, no matter how much he is deserving, he will never serve a day in prison so no one should get married to that idea.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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At the end of the day, no matter how much he is deserving, he will never serve a day in prison so no one should get married to that idea.
We should know Donald's fate and where he does his time by the new year or shortly thereafter, the way these trials normally go. If he is convicted the cuffs go on in court and they might need to wrestle him to the floor to do it! He will need to be held at a maximum-security facility, he has a large domestic terrorist following and everybody involved in his prosecution will get death threats. It's also a question of safety for those guarding the facility, so if he accumulates enough time, a supermax should do the job and make it harder for McCarthy to visit him for instructions. :lol:
 

ec121

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why not? His “brand” is eroding faster than a Delaware beach in a nor’easter.
Save for something like 100% irrefutable proof that he was selling secrets to China or Russia, prison time for a former US president is a pipe dream (sort of like an impeachment conviction is), but I'd love to be wrong. I believe he will be indicted, though.
 

ec121

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We should know Donald's fate and where he does his time by the new year or shortly thereafter, the way these trials normally go. If he is convicted the cuffs go on in court and they might need to wrestle him to the floor to do it! He will need to be held at a maximum-security facility, he has a large domestic terrorist following and everybody involved in his prosecution will get death threats. It's also a question of safety for those guarding the facility, so if he accumulates enough time, a supermax should do the job and make it harder for McCarthy to visit him for instructions. :lol:
Man, this is like the first time a person grows weed and are getting ready to harvest what they feel is an easy two pounds and all they get is 2oz dried :D
 

Wattzzup

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Save for something like 100% irrefutable proof that he was selling secrets to China or Russia, prison time for a former US president is a pipe dream (sort of like an impeachment conviction is), but I'd love to be wrong. I believe he will be indicted, though.
So you don’t think he will do any prison time? Or he won’t even be convicted?
 

cannabineer

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Save for something like 100% irrefutable proof that he was selling secrets to China or Russia, prison time for a former US president is a pipe dream (sort of like an impeachment conviction is), but I'd love to be wrong. I believe he will be indicted, though.
I suspect that one reason it is going slowly is so that Garland wants to make quite sure that the board is such that checkmate is assured.

In any case, That Man has laid waste to so much precedent and tradition that I have to say all bets are off and he is fully exposed. He certainly has burnt through every high-level law firm or attorney who might have the horsepower to make a difference. His current guy might get his parking fines expunged, but felony espionage? Even the dark-money oligarchs who handled him are disengaging. I foresee a ripple effect through the entire pseudoconservative establishment; the mighty will fall for half a decade to come, perhaps delayed for two years if the House goes plainly election-denier GOP. That’ll simply make the correction back from GOP power snappier when it comes.

An event of huge consequence awaits: the investigation into just how corrupt Clarence Thomas and the other three who lied during the confirmation is/are. The untouchable status of high appellate judges will end. That will hurt the libertarian/dominionist coalition that has been calling the shots.
 

ec121

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So you don’t think he will do any prison time? Or he won’t even be convicted?
Conviction is certainly possible. Have to see what the charges are.

n any case, That Man has laid waste to so much precedent and tradition that I have to say all bets are off and he is fully exposed. He certainly has burnt through every high-level law firm or attorney who might have the horsepower to make a difference. His current guy might get his parking fines expunged, but felony espionage?
Certainly unprecedented times, so I suppose anything is possible. Felony espionage is about the only thing I could see leading to a country club prison. Something like improper possession and storage of classified documents? Slap on the wrist.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Man, this is like the first time a person grows weed and are getting ready to harvest what they feel is an easy two pounds and all they get is 2oz dried :D
Well, he will have one thing in common with a grow, he will get out in a bag like an ounce of dope, but in this case, it will be a body bag of dead dope.
 
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