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DIY-HP-LED
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No need for Poland to retaliate, just give Ukraine the cruise missiles and they will do it for them. Blacking out Moscow for a month should get Vlad's attention.
Budzbuddha
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Overflight error or intentional - We shall see what russia says.
In an interview, Senate Foreign Relations Chair Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) said that if Moscow intentionally struck territory in Poland, it could lead to the invocation of Article 5 of the NATO charter. That provision calls for other NATO member-states to contribute to the response, including possibly via military force, if one member is attacked.
“We’re drilling down to find out what were the circumstances of it. It’s obviously very important to understand — was it a mistake, was it an overflight, was it intentional. I hope that it was not intentional,” Menendez said.
“I hope that the Russians apologize quickly for the loss of life and express that it wasn’t intentional. Obviously, if it was intentional, that has all kinds of consequences to it,” he added. “It’s definitely an enlargement of the conflict and of course it brings into question Article 5.”
When asked about the reported strikes, U.S. officials were cautious. Pentagon Press Secretary Brig. Gen. Patrick Ryder told reporters that the Defense Department could not immediately corroborate the information coming out of Poland. Asked about the United States’ security commitments under Article 5, Ryder said: “We’ve been crystal clear that we will defend every inch of NATO territory.”
In an interview, Senate Foreign Relations Chair Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) said that if Moscow intentionally struck territory in Poland, it could lead to the invocation of Article 5 of the NATO charter. That provision calls for other NATO member-states to contribute to the response, including possibly via military force, if one member is attacked.
“We’re drilling down to find out what were the circumstances of it. It’s obviously very important to understand — was it a mistake, was it an overflight, was it intentional. I hope that it was not intentional,” Menendez said.
“I hope that the Russians apologize quickly for the loss of life and express that it wasn’t intentional. Obviously, if it was intentional, that has all kinds of consequences to it,” he added. “It’s definitely an enlargement of the conflict and of course it brings into question Article 5.”
When asked about the reported strikes, U.S. officials were cautious. Pentagon Press Secretary Brig. Gen. Patrick Ryder told reporters that the Defense Department could not immediately corroborate the information coming out of Poland. Asked about the United States’ security commitments under Article 5, Ryder said: “We’ve been crystal clear that we will defend every inch of NATO territory.”
DIY-HP-LED
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That's the great thing about Ukraine, whenever ya wanna make Russia yelp in pain, who ya gonna call? Just give them the weapons point at the target and grunt, no convincing would be required for them to take Moscow's power grid down for a month, just provide them with the means and the green light.
Budzbuddha
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BudmanTX
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looks like they were going after a power plant along the border that connect the EU to UA.....hmmm.....and missed
DIY-HP-LED
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Assuming he is being honest about it, they will get better at it as more AA weapons are deployed and the Russians should get worse at it. It is taking Vlad longer and longer to gather up the missiles for a swarm attack, the only kind where missiles can get through. I also noticed there were few Iranian drones used in this attack, so maybe their supply is dwindling because of turmoil in Iran, apparently, they are relatively easy to shoot down cheap with truck mounted heavy machine guns setup for the purpose.
DIY-HP-LED
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This is what McCarthy is dealing with and what some moderates will walk away from in a one or two seat majority. Especially when Trump is gone and that won't be long, IMHO Donald will have an epic Christmas curtesy of Uncle Sam. Let's hear her squeal when Donald goes down, she won't be on any committees, or a few moderates will vote Pelosi as speaker with the democrats rather than have her MAGA showboating during Trump's trial. His public TV trial in her home state of Georgia should see her rioting outside on the courthouse steps with a J6 style mob! 
That might happen as the new congress is sitting and Mitch won't want a house committee member in that situation. Mitch won't have much use for Magats if he loses the majority in Georgia.
That might happen as the new congress is sitting and Mitch won't want a house committee member in that situation. Mitch won't have much use for Magats if he loses the majority in Georgia.
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doublejj
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Drunk drivers don't intentionally kill anyone, however thru their reckless actions they are responsible and we hold them accountable......
BudmanTX
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tell mtg to come to the border, i'll show her cartel justice
what a dumbass.........OAN bullshit
Bagginski
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^^^ THIS ^^^
I’m for arresting ALL the officeholders who stan for the overthrow, expelling them from their bodies (house, Senate (what were you thinking?)), and prosecuting them for colluding with an open adversary to hijack & disrupt the US federal government, and engaging in actions intended to further that aim, giving aid, comfort, and personal investment to the adversary’s cause.
I’m sure there no law so specific, but by all gods there OUGHT to be one: that has to be illegal and punishable or it’s only by miracles we’ve survived so long - and we won’t survive much longer.
Forget the truth being “out there” - it’s all over the place. They that have eyes, let them see!
DIY-HP-LED
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Vlad didn't just lose Kherson, he lost internationally too and now with a missile strike on Poland during the meeting of the G19 they are screwed.
Looks like the former president is speaking from a DIY woodstove factory, he runs a foundation so they might be making them. Lots of wood rubble to burn for heat.
G20 leaders condemn war in Ukraine in draft declaration | DW News
15,660 views Nov 15, 2022
A draft of a declaration by G20 leaders strongly denounced the war in Ukraine and highlighted how it was contributing toward escalating economic fragilities throughout the world.
Earlier, Russia tried to veer the focus from its war on Ukraine by insisting that G20 was not the platform to discuss security issues and that it should rather prioritize economic challenges.
Former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko told DW that he was pleased to hear that most G20 members strongly condemned the war in Ukraine.
Looks like the former president is speaking from a DIY woodstove factory, he runs a foundation so they might be making them. Lots of wood rubble to burn for heat.
G20 leaders condemn war in Ukraine in draft declaration | DW News
15,660 views Nov 15, 2022
A draft of a declaration by G20 leaders strongly denounced the war in Ukraine and highlighted how it was contributing toward escalating economic fragilities throughout the world.
Earlier, Russia tried to veer the focus from its war on Ukraine by insisting that G20 was not the platform to discuss security issues and that it should rather prioritize economic challenges.
Former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko told DW that he was pleased to hear that most G20 members strongly condemned the war in Ukraine.
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BudmanTX
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i was thinking of stringing them up, and tar and feather them...and then try them for Treason
BudmanTX
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Petro just kiss it, you were all for giving those lands to RA, till you were voted out
DIY-HP-LED
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If you had won the senate and house, they could have resurrected the independent special counsel law and given them all the Ken Starr treatment with public hearings and prosecutions. That's what that law was intended to do, protect democracy, but the republicans abused it with Clinton, and it was allowed to lapse. It was meant for situations like this and Trump, it is used on politicians. The solution is there gathering dust and will continue to do so.
DIY-HP-LED
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Roger A. Shrubber
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i think maybe it is good, if they respond decisively...this shit needs to get wrapped up, and this might be the event that makes that happen.
DIY-HP-LED
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They will be, officially and "unofficially", seriously, if you want to retaliate against Russia just let the Ukrainians do it for you with your weapons and your internationally clean hands.
Order up some extras from Sammy if ya got nothing on hand...
Roger A. Shrubber
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they need to be held accountable for their actions. each and every one of the miserable fucks that were aware of trump's ridiculous insurrection plan should be charged with insurrection...that's a fucking no brainer. they participated...they could have blown the whistle, they could have gone to the authorities, they could have done the right thing, and not one motherfucking one of them even came close...fuck each and every one of them, individually and collectively, they should be prosecuted and if convicted, given the harshest sentences possible, and barred from ever participating in the government again, in any way.