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DIY-HP-LED

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Voenkor Tkach: Shelling of Ukrainian civilian facilities harms the Armed Forces of Ukraine
Shelling of enemy civilian infrastructure is a normal practice in any military operation. Strikes on the rear create difficulties for the enemy army, which can be seen now in the example of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Vasily Tkach, a war correspondent for Ukraina.Ru, shared this in an interview with URA.RU.

“The shelling of civilian objects creates difficulties for the Ukrainian army. From a military point of view, this creates problems in the rear. Any army is built not only on military equipment. In any army, the rear is extremely important, it is important to have a normal supply of the same food, clothing, oil products. Enterprises that repair equipment must work. Therefore, the creation of such problems, say, with electricity, causes serious damage to the organization of hostilities precisely on the front line, ”explained Vasily Tkach.

According to the military correspondent, the shelling of civilian targets is a normal practice of any military action. “If you remember, for example, the Second World War, then there it was a completely common practice and everything that could be destroyed was constantly destroyed. What is happening in Ukraine now is very targeted strikes. They do not, for example, pose a danger to nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power plants, which can cause a severe environmental catastrophe. That is, strikes are made on transformer substations, which burn very easily and can be destroyed quickly and cheaply. That is why it is being done,” he concluded.
If the Ukrainians started sending drones into Russia instead of Crimea the Russians would be in a similar pickle pretty quick. However, such a justification might not stand up in international court, where this all will end up and they don't want any Russian counter claims getting in the way of getting the Russian money held abroad. The Americans have concerns about the dollar used as a reserve currency, if they just snatch it, even if they can by law, so some legal process will have to be followed.
 

BudmanTX

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If the Ukrainians started sending drones into Russia instead of Crimea the Russians would be in a similar pickle pretty quick. However, such a justification might not stand up in international court, where this all will end up and they don't want any Russian counter claims getting in the way of getting the Russian money held abroad. The Americans have concerns about the dollar used as a reserve currency, if they just snatch it, even if they can by law, so some legal process will have to be followed.
that was the idea of make Russia and Sponsor of Terror, this way the eu can take the money, the US need to follow suit if it can...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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that was the idea of make Russia and Sponsor of Terror, this way the eu can take the money, the US need to follow suit if it can...
Yep, but you have reserve currency concerns that the EU and others like Canada do not, however it should not affect the private holdings of those sanctioned, just government reserves need an international legal process to give it to Ukraine in trust to the world bank or some other international institution. America needs to take this extra step because of the unique position of the US dollar in international trade.
 

BudmanTX

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Yep, but you have reserve currency concerns that the EU and others like Canada do not, however it should not affect the private holdings of those sanctioned, just government reserves need an international legal process to give it to Ukraine in trust to the world bank or some other international institution. America needs to take this extra step because of the unique position of the US dollar in international trade.
i would rather let the world bank have it, this would cover any Ukrainian loans they would need down the road for reconstruction, etc
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Voenkor Tkach: Shelling of Ukrainian civilian facilities harms the Armed Forces of Ukraine
Shelling of enemy civilian infrastructure is a normal practice in any military operation. Strikes on the rear create difficulties for the enemy army, which can be seen now in the example of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Vasily Tkach, a war correspondent for Ukraina.Ru, shared this in an interview with URA.RU.

“The shelling of civilian objects creates difficulties for the Ukrainian army. From a military point of view, this creates problems in the rear. Any army is built not only on military equipment. In any army, the rear is extremely important, it is important to have a normal supply of the same food, clothing, oil products. Enterprises that repair equipment must work. Therefore, the creation of such problems, say, with electricity, causes serious damage to the organization of hostilities precisely on the front line, ”explained Vasily Tkach.

According to the military correspondent, the shelling of civilian targets is a normal practice of any military action. “If you remember, for example, the Second World War, then there it was a completely common practice and everything that could be destroyed was constantly destroyed. What is happening in Ukraine now is very targeted strikes. They do not, for example, pose a danger to nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power plants, which can cause a severe environmental catastrophe. That is, strikes are made on transformer substations, which burn very easily and can be destroyed quickly and cheaply. That is why it is being done,” he concluded.
One key difference over the past 3 months has been coordination and planning by NATO and the EU plus allies in a more organized effort to help them to defeat Russia by whatever means required and to keep their grid alive if possible. The Ukrainians are far from alone in this struggle and the EU is buying the power they can't distribute internally and is hooked into their grid, at least the western part of the country is. So, whatever the Ukrainian response to the attack on their grid the Ukrainians consider, must be done in concert with their allies, even if they used their own drones. The EU would rather give them Russian money than their own too, so no war crimes counter claims!


NATO 'advanced air defence systems' will stop Putin's winter missile strategy | Jens Stoltenberg

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NATO SECRETARY-GENERAL, JENS STOLTENBERG

"Allies are providing advanced air defence systems and different systems that can both address the threats that are represented by the different types of drones but also cruise and ballistic missiles, and I expect that one of the messages from the foreign ministers' meeting here in Bucharest will be the need to further step up the provision both of air defence systems but also, of course, spare parts, training and ammunition to the different air defence systems, because we need to help Ukraine to defend themselves against this horrific type of warfare."
 

DIY-HP-LED

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'Russia is a neo-imperialist state' undefeated they will attack again | Chip Chapman

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'Russia is neo-imperialist state' undefeated they will attack again | Chip Chapman
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED

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then why the fuck aren't we giving Ukraine the weapons to strike back in kind?
I'm sure it has been considered by the allies and Ukraine, they probably don't need to give them the weapons, since drones can do it for Russia, and they have been shooting lots of them at Crimea. I outlined possible reasons for restraint in earlier posts today. Whatever they do about the Russian grid needs allied approval, even using their own drones. It could be as simple as the EU wanting to give Ukraine Russian money instead of their own and don't want war crimes counter claims delaying the legal process. The allies are keeping Ukraine going, so they have some say and everybody is eager to get their hands on Russian money!
 

printer

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then why the fuck aren't we giving Ukraine the weapons to strike back in kind?
Because it is a war crime. Also as time goes on the Russian people may turn on their government. The thing to galvanized the Russian people is if the same attacks happen to Russian infrastructure. Russians have a long history of surviving hardships and nothing will pull the Russians together than being bombed by the Ukrainians.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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DIY-HP-LED

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Information travels at the speed of light and it's landing on fertile ground. With cellphones, and the internet, the great firewall will be of little help, if people are unhappy enough. Ideas about democracy will spread along with the protests and could lead to other political trouble. The experience of Russia and themselves with one-man despotic rule, might make many of the younger generation think twice.


Hong Kong sees protests in solidarity with mainland

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CNN senior international correspondent Ivan Watson speaks to a protester in Hong Kong who says he is a "victim" of China's zero-Covid policy. #CNN #News


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DIY-HP-LED

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Dodging Russian bullets in Ukraine's freezing trenches
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In the freezing, muddy trenches of the Ukrainian front lines - the scenes are reminiscent of the first world war.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Because it is a war crime. Also as time goes on the Russian people may turn on their government. The thing to galvanized the Russian people is if the same attacks happen to Russian infrastructure. Russians have a long history of surviving hardships and nothing will pull the Russians together than being bombed by the Ukrainians.
war was so much simpler when you just bombed the fuck out of your enemies country and then planted a flag on top of the detritus...
Ukrainians have to sit in the dark and suffer the bombing of the russians, so they don't unite the russians against them, because they might...bomb them more...with unity...amazing that the russians can fire high enough to hit that moral high ground the Ukrainians are sheltering on...i'm sure any survivors will be proud of the moral superiority of all those dead Ukrainians...:?
 
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