My first 3 chamber closet grow with Blueberry

[iloveit]

Mission accomplished!

I tranplanted in to a larger pot yesterday with approx 40% soil & 60% perlite (I may have accidently put too much perlite ). It was perfect timing because the surface of the soil was breaking up due to dryness while the rest of the lower soil was still moist, the roots had made there way to the bottom of the pot & were white in color (which I read is a sign of a healthy root system). Im just regreting not taking a pics of the root system during the transplant process sorry, my hands were covered with dirt & perlite dust. Now the peak of the leaves are very close to the fluros (not much height room in this chamber) about an inch away & ive switched the light dark period to 18/6. Im going to prepare the mother chamber (2nd chamber) by cleaning it out & attaching mylar.
Ill post pics later on in the day.

Thanks all of you guys for guiding me

 

[robbie82]

Awesome, lets see if they perk up in the new pics

 

[TRICKKY]

Great stuff.

Yes a white root is a healthy root. I take it there were plenty of them then?

60% perlite, wow! Plenty of aeration now then

Keep an eye on those top leaves, Im pretty sure we have the same fluoros, In which case they get slightly hotter than CFL's.

Oh, and your welcome.

 

[robbie82]

Great stuff.

Yes a white root is a healthy root. I take it there were plenty of them then?

60% perlite, wow! Plenty of aeration now then

Keep an eye on those top leaves, Im pretty sure we have the same fluoros, In which case they get slightly hotter than CFL's.

Oh, and your welcome.

Hmmmm im thinkin if maybe all that perlite mixture will slow down the plants energy consumption. Remember, soil to root contact is where food and water is distributed. Nutes natural or not mainly. Im just thinking. Im sure it will be fine. Im thinking u may want to use liquid nute in a situation since the roots can take water much easier in that set up. Water will hit the roots regardless of soil or perlite.

Either thay im positive they will perk up after the transplant. Another really good thing to add is more light after a transplant because it will shoot more energy to the now increasingly growing plant, allowing for nice growth spurts.......truussst me

anywhoo......cant wait to see update from this.

 

[iloveit]

*DAY 21*

Hey fellas, before I begin I must make you aware that I feel really drowsy & light headed Im not sure if Im stoned or coming down with something or maybe both, I feel so screwed up I can barely think right. Ive had a little medicine & for some reason Ive been listening to "Unchained melody" yes that right The theme song to the movie "Ghost" for the past 2 hours (I generally dont listen to those type of tunes...you know the lovely dovey ones so if my words do not make sense in this post I apologise...sniff sniff.

On with the journal:
So I checked my beautiful plant & she is now leaving a mouth watering scent (a sign of progress I hope) but I found her to be drooping her leaves a little & the moisture meter was reading the soil at dry so I watered approx 600-700ml with about 1ml of superthrive. Why superthrive? Well because now even the tips of the higher leaves are bent backwards at a sharp 90 degree turn what is it thats making the leaves do this every few days?.
Ive decided to transfer the plant into the 2nd chamber in a couple of days, Its growing quite fast & the area in the chamber where its currently placed is limited. The 2nd chamber is going to be a little hotter & with less humidity but we'll see.

Anyway check out the pics,sorry its not in a neat order or adjusted correctly (I finally managed to upload those pics at once thanks -=4:20=-Guy) tell what you think & if someone has any idea what is causing the tips of those leave to turn back at 90 degrees then please notify me with the reason & solution.

 

[iloveit]

Great stuff.

Yes a white root is a healthy root. I take it there were plenty of them then?

60% perlite, wow! Plenty of aeration now then

Keep an eye on those top leaves, Im pretty sure we have the same fluoros, In which case they get slightly hotter than CFL's.

Oh, and your welcome.

Oh there were plenty alright, they looked like thin strands moulded around the soil. I love seeing signs of good progress make me feel like the effort has payed off.

I thought the cfls generate more heat than fluros but anyway I have a little fan in the current chamber so it shouldnt be much of a challenge but I tested the other 2 chambers & they can reach temps of up to 40C but Im considering add an extra RVK fan for more ventilation but I have a little time to add equipment in there because they are both dormant at the moment.

Thanks again for the instructions. Do you happen to know what could be bending those leaves at a 90 degree angle (new pics recently added in my latest post?)

 

[iloveit]

Hmmmm im thinkin if maybe all that perlite mixture will slow down the plants energy consumption. Remember, soil to root contact is where food and water is distributed. Nutes natural or not mainly. Im just thinking. Im sure it will be fine. Im thinking u may want to use liquid nute in a situation since the roots can take water much easier in that set up. Water will hit the roots regardless of soil or perlite.

Either thay im positive they will perk up after the transplant. Another really good thing to add is more light after a transplant because it will shoot more energy to the now increasingly growing plant, allowing for nice growth spurts.......truussst me

anywhoo......cant wait to see update from this.

I assumed the exact same thing after believing I may have added a little more perlite than 60%, I didnt even see much growth this morning usually Id notice something new but then again I did transplant recently & adjust the light cycle well we'll see.
Im considering add some cfls in that chamber for the lower leaves, even at plants short height i can tell theyre in the shadow of the higher leaves a little.

 

[robbie82]

TO be honest the plant looks great right now. Some added light would be wonderful, but i would give it another day and i bet ull notice some perkyness to it soon enough.

 

[TRICKKY]

Hmmmm im thinkin if maybe all that perlite mixture will slow down the plants energy consumption. Remember, soil to root contact is where food and water is distributed. Nutes natural or not mainly. Im just thinking. Im sure it will be fine. Im thinking u may want to use liquid nute in a situation since the roots can take water much easier in that set up. Water will hit the roots regardless of soil or perlite.

Good point Robbie and well spotted, In fact with that amount of soilless medium in the pot has this grow become semi hydro?

Seriously tho, a small drop of nutes in your feed would be groovy. Also as there is so little soil then I think it will only be a week or two, before you will need to start giving a decent amount of nutes with every watering.

For now tho I would be cautious, the reason I say this is because the colour of your plant is spot on! I would prefer to wait until I see a little bit of yellowing in the lower leaves before adding Nitrogen.

I find that if you let your plant get a little hungry for nutes then when you do start feeding, it will munch them up straight away, no problem. If you do the opposite and overfeed, then getting the plant to start eating properly again takes longer and a pain in the ass!

Another way to look at it is, not enough feed in your soil is easy to solve, just add nutes, problem solved instantly.
To much feed in your soil, flush your medium god knows how many times, soil becomes over watered, you now have overfeeding and overwatering problems.

 

[TRICKKY]

Oh there were plenty alright, they looked like thin strands moulded around the soil. I love seeing signs of good progress make me feel like the effort has payed off.

I thought the cfls generate more heat than fluros but anyway I have a little fan in the current chamber so it shouldnt be much of a challenge but I tested the other 2 chambers & they can reach temps of up to 40C but Im considering add an extra RVK fan for more ventilation but I have a little time to add equipment in there because they are both dormant at the moment.

Thanks again for the instructions. Do you happen to know what could be bending those leaves at a 90 degree angle (new pics recently added in my latest post?)

Yes I think your right cfl's do produce a little more initial heat, but I think the design of the fluoro keeps the heat trapped underneath the housing whereas the heat from Cfl's disipates more easily.

I really dont know why the tips are bent down. I'm certain that You definately don't have a nutrient problem. I'm sure it is something to do with the rooting activity taking place. The reason I say the is because whenever I have cloned in the past I notice that whilst my clones are rooting the tips of the leaves get a little yellow and the tips fold down slightly just like your plant.

Anyway I have to say that the colour and posture of your plant are both excellent and you have nothing to worry about at all.

Oh and more importantly I hope your feeling a little better today!

 

[robbie82]

I too noticed the healthy pigment of leaf color as well Trickky. Which is why I cant wait for an update, Im sure we will see some results.

 

[TRICKKY]

The best thing is its Blueberry which in my experience is a top notch smoke!

 

[TRICKKY]

Iloveit, I found this post earlier, its a fantastic explanation of why the 2-3 bottom sets of leaves of a plant yellow, after 2-3 weeks in soil.

Originally posted by Dr Vondankenstine.

"Great question and here is the best straight forward answer I can get- the source comes from a plant botanist with over 20 years and a masters in plant biology-------As you know the first two weeks of growth from seeds goes into development of the primary root system-once the the primary root system has developed the plant switches it direction above the ground to rapid vegetative development-to answer your question---yes the loss of the first set of leaves is due to the deficiency caused by the rapid growth of vegetative development after the primary roots have developed-All mobile element are consumed from the lower Set's to maintain and support this growth-but the tricky part is that on would think that you could divert this loss by adding more of the mobile nutrients---(not true) because the plants genetics and hormones tell it to use the store of energy in the first Set's of leaves whether an extra dose of the mobile nutrients are added or not-hence an added dose of nutes will only stack on top of the mobile nutrients the plant is already using from the first set of leaves and would cause an overabundance and as you probley guessed already------nutrient burn. There is no productive way to change this function of the plant but if a plant is topped after the 3rd set of leaves are formed, the hormones within the plant will redirect toward the bottom and the lower leaves will be maintained----As far as production--this would slow all growth down. For practical purposes let the leaves run there corse-their will be plenty of leaves to follow.----hope this answers your question."

I'm chuffed cos now I don't have to say "don't worry about it's normal", now I have a more scientific answer to boot

 

[iloveit]

Iloveit, I found this post earlier, its a fantastic explanation of why the 2-3 bottom sets of leaves of a plant yellow, after 2-3 weeks in soil.

Originally posted by Dr Vondankenstine.

"Great question and here is the best straight forward answer I can get- the source comes from a plant botanist with over 20 years and a masters in plant biology-------As you know the first two weeks of growth from seeds goes into development of the primary root system-once the the primary root system has developed the plant switches it direction above the ground to rapid vegetative development-to answer your question---yes the loss of the first set of leaves is due to the deficiency caused by the rapid growth of vegetative development after the primary roots have developed-All mobile element are consumed from the lower Set's to maintain and support this growth-but the tricky part is that on would think that you could divert this loss by adding more of the mobile nutrients---(not true) because the plants genetics and hormones tell it to use the store of energy in the first Set's of leaves whether an extra dose of the mobile nutrients are added or not-hence an added dose of nutes will only stack on top of the mobile nutrients the plant is already using from the first set of leaves and would cause an overabundance and as you probley guessed already------nutrient burn. There is no productive way to change this function of the plant but if a plant is topped after the 3rd set of leaves are formed, the hormones within the plant will redirect toward the bottom and the lower leaves will be maintained----As far as production--this would slow all growth down. For practical purposes let the leaves run there corse-their will be plenty of leaves to follow.----hope this answers your question."

I'm chuffed cos now I don't have to say "don't worry about it's normal", now I have a more scientific answer to boot

That makes sense, here I was worrying that the plant was slowly dying from the bottom up due to lack of knowledge & experience.
Im thinking maybe the lower leaves will die off & the rest will strengthen time will tell. Thank you so much for your effort in finding this post, would you be able to post "Vondankenstines" orignal post so that I can read it through out please.

Why have I not repd you yet? Should have done it sooner but Ill do it now.

 

[TRICKKY]

That makes sense, here I was worrying that the plant was slowly dying from the bottom up due to lack of knowledge & experience.
Im thinking maybe the lower leaves will die off & the rest will strengthen time will tell. Thank you so much for your effort in finding this post, would you be able to post "Vondankenstines" orignal post so that I can read it through out please.

Why have I not repd you yet? Should have done it sooner but Ill do it now.

That was the whole post, if you want to view the thread type - Ask DR. VonDankenstine - into the Search bar and its the third or fourth thread down. I have tried to post a link to it here, but my computer talents leave much to be desired

Thanks for the rep, much appreciated. I think there are another two lads here that deserve it too?

And heres some for you for taking advice and doing what you want with it, instead of just following it. The best decisions are the ones we make ourselves. And if we don't make any mistakes then what do we have to learn from? etc. etc....

 

[iloveit]

That was the whole post, if you want to view the thread type - Ask DR. VonDankenstine - into the Search bar and its the third or fourth thread down. I have tried to post a link to it here, but my computer talents leave much to be desired

Thanks for the rep, much appreciated. I think there are another two lads here that deserve it too?

And heres some for you for taking advice and doing what you want with it, instead of just following it. The best decisions are the ones we make ourselves. And if we don't make any mistakes then what do we have to learn from? etc. etc....

Nice one, Ill be sure to check it out.
Awww thats nice of you to tihnk of others as well Ill definitely rep the other for their words of wisdom.

 

[iloveit]

Something strange is happening to this plant (I hope it isnt turning hermie not after all this effort).

Yet again I have found another issue but this one is a weird one. The new leaves at the very top of the plant are erm...well they seem half shredded & deformed, no-one has been around the grow area Im guessing its a humidity or temp issue as the temp last night decreased to 21C (during night cycle) & the humidity decreased to 29& rh during the light cycle. (see pics)

Ive been searching for members who may have experienced these issue, I even crossed check with a few grow books but nothing.

Anyone know what this means?

 

[TRICKKY]

Hmmm

I really don't have an answer to this one. Ive spent about an hour searching too but still cant find one.

I might ask that Vondankenstine dude...

 

[iloveit]

Hmmm

I really don't have an answer to this one. Ive spent about an hour searching too but still cant find one.

Thanks for taking the time to do the search.

I might ask that Vondankenstine dude...

Ive posted a thread in the "Marijuana plant problem" section Ive asked Heath Robinson too but he hasnt replied yet,hope fully someone will have an answer soon.

 

[TRICKKY]

Cool, I posted the question on Vondank's thread (hope you dont mind) maybe well get an answer from him?

In the meantime I would just keep doing what you have been. I suppose thats all you can do

Is this plant from a regular or feminised seed?