My first 3 chamber closet grow with Blueberry

iloveit said:

Unfortunetely they dont sell those brands where I live

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Dont always need super great stuff like that to come out with some descent bud. Youll be surprised at what you can find at your local Lowes, Walmart, and Homedepot.

*DAY 13*

I cant wait to transplant this baby into a larger pot & begin cloning in rockwool & root riot man im excited to experiment I cant contain myself arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! I just needed to get that out of my system.

The plant has definitely grown but the lower leaves seem to be curling (the 1st 2 leaves which sprouted) maybe because the humidity has been low its currently at 30%, Ill order a humidifier soon. I have a little 8 inch fan blowing for air circulation & to strengthen the stem I hope this isnt contributing to the curling of the leaves. Oh I forgot to mention small part of the stem is turning into a purplish complexion is that natural in the Blueberry strain? (pic will be posted in a few days).


I have had the plant under 2 x fluros (36 watts in total) on a 24 hour light cycle but Id like to switch to 18/6 so when I sleep they sleep & also the light leakage is visible when my eyes adjust to the dark. Is this a good idea & what are the advantages & disadvantages?

Pics as promised.

*DAY 14*

Pic 1) The plant as it is today
Pic 2) The purplish brownish stem I was talking about (does anyone know what this is a sign of?). Also you can see that the lower endof the stem is having a few problems, leaves turning crispy/curling backwards (again does anyone know why this is happening?)
Pic 3) The last pic shows what looks like roots from the bottom I think it maybe time to transplant...what do you think?

That plant is looking really good!!!
Nice colour, nice spacing, not streched at all, well done

As for the 2 bottom leaves, these are called the cotyledon leaf and I rarely see these last more than a week or two, so dont worry when they yellow and fall off. The leaves you need to worry about are the true leaves and yours are looking great.

If you have to shop in a garden store then your best bet for soil would be to get a cutting and transplanting soil as it is designed for optimum aeration and usually contains ample perlite/vermiculite.

Not quite time to transplant yet, In my opinion. That is a root you see in the drainage hole and as it has hit the bottom of the pot your plant will now send roots in other directions looking for food. If you wait until you see more roots at the bottom then you will have allowed the plant to build a good root ball with numerous feeding roots, then when you transplant you will have say 10 feeding tips to go searching the new pot instead of 1 or 2.

I personally would opt for a 18/6 light period, I think all living things deserve a little sleep. And if you read up on the need for a dark period you will find that plants will use energy it has stored during the day to continue grow during the night. I have seen clones in one room on 24 and clones in another on 18/6 and not seen much difference other than the 18/6 rooting slightly faster.

No real disadvantage to 18/6, One advantage is 42 hours less electric use per week!

Not sure about the light leak question? Did you mean that light is leaking out of your veg cab? This is not a huge problem, what would be a problem is if light is leaking into your flower cab, I would check this out Asap so that you can sort it out if you need to, before you need to flower.

Considering what you paid for the setup there should not be any light leaks at all

If I was to build my own cab then I would stick some alluminium tape on the seems and this would work wonders, can you get hold of some?

iloveit said:

Unfortunetely they dont sell those brands where I live

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Its cool man, just pick any brand and make sure its the "Potting Soil" mix and you will be good to grow =)

TRICKKY said:

That plant is looking really good!!!
Nice colour, nice spacing, not streched at all, well done

As for the 2 bottom leaves, these are called the cotyledon leaf and I rarely see these last more than a week or two, so dont worry when they yellow and fall off. The leaves you need to worry about are the true leaves and yours are looking great.

Thats a bit of a relief

If you have to shop in a garden store then your best bet for soil would be to get a cutting and transplanting soil as it is designed for optimum aeration and usually contains ample perlite/vermiculite.

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Ive purchased a seed & cutting compost that I used on the Blueberrys from germination. I have perlite ready to mix with the compost when I transplant.

TRICKKY said:

Not quite time to transplant yet, In my opinion. That is a root you see in the drainage hole and as it has hit the bottom of the pot your plant will now send roots in other directions looking for food. If you wait until you see more roots at the bottom then you will have allowed the plant to build a good root ball with numerous feeding roots, then when you transplant you will have say 10 feeding tips to go searching the new pot instead of 1 or 2.

Makes sense, but why do we want more roots why is that beneficial.

I personally would opt for a 18/6 light period, I think all living things deserve a little sleep. And if you read up on the need for a dark period you will find that plants will use energy it has stored during the day to continue grow during the night. I have seen clones in one room on 24 and clones in another on 18/6 and not seen much difference other than the 18/6 rooting slightly faster.

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I was thinking the exact same thing but suddenly switch the one plant that I have from 12/0 to 18/6 can this have stunt the plant in any way or will it go into shock? Im worried.

TRICKKY said:

No real disadvantage to 18/6, One advantage is 42 hours less electric use per week!

Not sure about the light leak question? Did you mean that light is leaking out of your veg cab? This is not a huge problem, what would be a problem is if light is leaking into your flower cab, I would check this out Asap so that you can sort it out if you need to, before you need to flower.

Considering what you paid for the setup there should not be any light leaks at all

Although there were slight gaps in the chambers I sealed them all up with silicon glue & foil tape, theres just a gap where the first chamber door slides close (thats where the plant is). I guess Ill just stick some tape on it during the night so it wont distract my sleep.

If I was to build my own cab then I would stick some alluminium tape on the seems and this would work wonders, can you get hold of some?

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Oh yeah I have many supplies on standby there is no way Im going to let a little leakage stop this grow.

Thanks for checking up on me Trickky I really do appreciate your help.

-=4:20=-Guy said:

Its cool man, just pick any brand and make sure its the "Potting Soil" mix and you will be good to grow =)

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Ive got me some seed & cutting compost & some perlite ready on standby for the transplanting process I cant wait AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

iloveit said:

I was thinking the exact same thing but suddenly switch the one plant that I have from 12/0 to 18/6 can this have stunt the plant in any way or will it go into shock? Im worried.

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In my experience it wont harm your plant at all. If your worried about switching it suddenly tho, then what about adding an extra hour of dark every few days, so that you get to a 18/6 photoperiod gradually, over a week or so?

iloveit said:

Pics as promised.

*DAY 14*

Pic 1) The plant as it is today
Pic 2) The purplish brownish stem I was talking about (does anyone know what this is a sign of?). Also you can see that the lower endof the stem is having a few problems, leaves turning crispy/curling backwards (again does anyone know why this is happening?)
Pic 3) The last pic shows what looks like roots from the bottom I think it maybe time to transplant...what do you think?

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Oh yea that plant is healthy enough to transplant.....just do it on a day you water and also bury them stem a little so that the plant remains nice and sturdy!

robbie82 said:

Oh yea that plant is healthy enough to transplant.....just do it on a day you water and also bury them stem a little so that the plant remains nice and sturdy!

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Theres only one thing that puzzles me about this transplanting. Im thinking when the roots & plant grow longer the current soil (as there is no perlite or other medium) will most likely cause root rot or mould so should I comb out the soil from around the roots & replace it with 60% fresh soil & 40% perlite?

i wouldnt . id just transplant into a good soil at this stage your plants roots should do just fine

Damn I fucked up!

HELP!

Im panicking, the leaves looked too be drooping so I check the moisture with my soil meter & it was dry so I watered approx 150mlin this little pot. I waited a couple of hours & now its drooping even more (see pics). Ive removed the clay pebbles & have switched on a little fan to dry up the surface of the soil but I cant help but wonder will it die?!
WHAT SHOULD I DO?

iloveit said:

Damn I fucked up!

HELP!

Im panicking, the leaves looked too be drooping so I check the moisture with my soil meter & it was dry so I watered approx 150mlin this little pot. I waited a couple of hours & now its drooping even more (see pics). Ive removed the clay pebbles & have switched on a little fan to dry up the surface of the soil but I cant help but wonder will it die?!
WHAT SHOULD I DO?

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Didn't you just say you transplanted them? If so it is just a little shock, they will recover. Hit them with a bit of superthrive.

NewGrowth said:

Didn't you just say you transplanted them? If so it is just a little shock, they will recover. Hit them with a bit of superthrive.

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Ive decided to allow the roots to grow to develop a good root ball then Ill transplant. I do have superthrive but Ive got to add it in water & Ive already over watered so erm would that be a good idea?

iloveit said:

Theres only one thing that puzzles me about this transplanting. Im thinking when the roots & plant grow longer the current soil (as there is no perlite or other medium) will most likely cause root rot or mould so should I comb out the soil from around the roots & replace it with 60% fresh soil & 40% perlite?

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No Combing!!!

The only reason I would remove soil from roots is if I wanted to start a plant in a little soil then transplant to a soilless setup. To remove the soil I would remove the root ball and plant from the pot and put the soil under a gentle flow of water until it has washed away.

You definatley do not need to do this!!! Despite having no perlite etc. the small amount of soil your plant is currently in will not cause root rot. When you tranplant into your new container almost all of the feeding tips will be in the nice fresh aerated soil.

All you need to do is get the soil in your new container ready, water the plant in the small pot, wait a few minutes then gently roll the pot to loosen the soil a little, put your hand over the pot so the stem of the plant is between your fingers, turn the pot upside down and very gently coax the root ball out of the pot (it should just slide out). Then put it straight into the new soil. Gently cover the old root ball so that it has about an inch of new soil on top of it and job done, transplant over. The key with transplanting is to give your plant as little stress as possible.

iloveit said:

Damn I fucked up!

HELP!

Im panicking, the leaves looked too be drooping so I check the moisture with my soil meter & it was dry so I watered approx 150mlin this little pot. I waited a couple of hours & now its drooping even more (see pics). Ive removed the clay pebbles & have switched on a little fan to dry up the surface of the soil but I cant help but wonder will it die?!
WHAT SHOULD I DO?

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Don't panic, your plant is not dying.

You have a little leaf droop and yes by the sound of it the soil was a little dry. So watering was a good idea. However when a plant has just been watered it leaves will droop a little also, so watering would not necessarily alter the leaf drop straight away. Confusing eh!

Looking at the pics from yesterday or the day before Im sure the taproot has only just hit the bottom of the pot, this will tell the plant to start developing a mass of new roots and in my experience this will cause a little leaf droop too.

The important thing is you don't have any nutrient or ph problems, a little under/over watering is not a huge problem and you have done something to rectify it straight away. I should imagine by tomorrow she will be looking just fine.