Examples of GOP Leadership

PadawanWarrior

Well-Known Member
@PadawanWarrior
Not trying to single you out but curious how you feel about what the repubs are doing in Tennessee right now?
is that not the ultimate cancel culture crap?
to me it is the worst type of thing that can happen that undermines our democracy. Like trump did with the big election lie/jan 6.

Curious what you think about it.

Trump canceling people like Colin Kaepernick is one thing, which is no good but the GOP is now canceling elected officials?
Give me a break man.


 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
@PadawanWarrior
Not trying to single you out but curious how you feel about what the repubs are doing in Tennessee right now?
is that not the ultimate cancel culture crap?
to me it is the worst type of thing that can happen that undermines our democracy. Like trump did with the big election lie/jan 6.

Curious what you think about it.

Trump canceling people like Colin Kaepernick is one thing, which is no good but the GOP is now canceling elected officials?
They still have George Santos in his seat in DC FFS. It is a sign of fear and desperation, it's what they do when they know they are losing, winners don't need to lie, cheat and steal FFS, losers do that shit!
 

Bagginski

Well-Known Member
This guy needs to be investigated FULLY...He's so shady he makes emnem jealous.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/20/dark-money-leonard-leo-00078657
For those who haven’t caught up, it’s the BILLIONAIRES bankrolling the overthrow, top to bottom & coast to coast. They’re tired of having peasants having any say at all, they’re tired of not being able to run things DIRECTLY via their installed manager-class without running afoul of ethics, laws, decency, “Christian values”, public opinion, the constitution, etc.

There need to be things - acts, purchases, influence - that MONEY CANNOT DO. Let them HAVE their freaking money, just don’t let them buy the home world
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
For those who haven’t caught up, it’s the BILLIONAIRES bankrolling the overthrow, top to bottom & coast to coast. They’re tired of having peasants having any say at all, they’re tired of not being able to run things DIRECTLY via their installed manager-class without running afoul of ethics, laws, decency, “Christian values”, public opinion, the constitution, etc.

There need to be things - acts, purchases, influence - that MONEY CANNOT DO. Let them HAVE their freaking money, just don’t let them buy the home world
They fear a clear unambiguous win by the democrats, it would mean their end, Foxnews would be finished as would any wannabes with legislation and regulation, HR-1 on steroids and that covers dark money and election financing too to level the playing field. Even take hate radio off the air by assigning the AM band to digital use and not letting them back on the air after ya do. Domestic terrorism legislation and hate crime laws and of course higher taxes for the rich and corporations. Then there are guns to control, and the feds can easily do that with taxation and regulation to increase the expense, burden and liability of owning one. They have much to fear, America has reached a social "tipping point" look at Nashville and that will make a political one easier. There is much that can be done and much that needs to be done, but ya gotta win a hat trick first.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Be careful what you wish for Gym, this guy is very sharp and a very good lawyer, Gym might just find himself with a tiger by the tail, democrats will ask him questions too and he will speak to the press and on all the shows. He is no friend of Trump, or the republicans and it could end up as a trap for Gym.

This guy is NOT afraid of Gym and his subpoena, he probably looks forward to humiliating him and sure as shit won't help him, now that Bragg has indicted Trump over the hush money.

 

Bagginski

Well-Known Member
The slums of Mumbai gives me nightmares; I can't believe government allows their people to live in squalor.
OURS does. They’ve gotten better at hiding it (private) & better at trying to be accountable (public).

First time I saw people living in squalor was maybe 50 miles outside Macon. I was helping the church camp with a supply run, and along the way, we passed a field full of derelict old vehicles - dozens at least. Rusted out, missing doors, broken glass everywhere…and every single ONE a had a black *family* living in and around it. No shade, no other shelter. No water, no electricity. It had a catastrophic effect - apocalyptic - on me. I asked the pastor driving why all those people were living in such a place, under such conditions.

His response was matter-of-fact: “It’s their choice.”

The impact of these words from a man of gawd, THE most unchristian, un-Christ-like, thing I’d ever heard, sent me into orbit…but I kept it to myself. My distrust of white people on matters of race was already profound, and this clinched it. If he knew the length & breadth of my disapproval, he could have ruined me (still in high school), and my family. I kept it to myself…and I chewed on it for a long, long time.

Eventually, some things I learned bumped into something else I’d always wondered about, and *it* fell on the question of what ‘it’s their choice’ really meant…and I began to see they were all pieces of the same picture: from a particular POV, black people *aren’t* people at all, biology & reality notwithstanding; what they *are* - their ACTUAL STATE is PROPERTY. ESCAPED property. Doesn’t matter that Lincoln gave them cover under which to escape, they STILL escaped and theyre STILL property: their owners didn’t free them, they weren’t stolen away by scalawags, nobody paid for them, THEY STOLE THEMSELVES - and the LAW, THE GOVERNMENT let it happen, prevented their recapture & return to service, pretended they were due the same rights & privileges AS THEIR OWNERS…and just generally paraded around as if they HAD the right to do THAT.

Imagine the anxiety of white men with no skilled free labor to profit from - grow & harvest the crops, cut down, stripped & cooked down the sugar cane, the pine sap, make the carts and boxes and nails and charcoal and stoves and ships and lamps and hats, etc, tend to all the other farm stock, raise the children, feed, clean up after, and take care of the household, run errands….

Imagine the self-sympathy of that slaveless white man, having to shave himself; having to dress and clean himself; having to eat the cooking of a white woman who knew nothing about cooking (though she knew what her favorite dishes were); having to see the walking criminal of escaped slaves walking the streets every day; having to NOT drag his malingering escaped property by the hair back to the house & beat him until he understood his position. Imagine how many there were; imagine how many of them were veterans of the rebellion; imagine how many of them worked as police, as sheriffs, as prison guards.

Imagine how fucking angry they got every time *any* of it got stuck in their craw - with EVERY black face in view a fresh insult, a new wound to their pride & independence. Imagine how groups like the Klan, Sons of the Confedracy, White Citizens Councils came together naturally. Imagine how seamlessly the jim-crow ‘way of things’ came together, maintaining slavery in everything but name, hiding all the while behind the church, the flag(s) and their bullshit pretense that they were above racial animus, but the law is the law & must be respected and obeyed, evvybody got rights….

The roots of MAGA - and the roots of inhumanity are in the words of that preacher: it’s their choice. They could have gone back to their masters, accepted their punishment & returned to their labors, but no. THAT was not their choice: it was their choice to NOT do that, and squalor, hunger, disease, and being ‘kept where we could keep an eye on ’em’ are the hand maids of their choice. If they don’t like it, don’t want it, they can surrender & accept their state as property.

But they better not ask for - or TAKE - a single *dime* of tax money: until their owners’ descendants are PAID for on-the-hoof livestock, every dime of it would be stolen from their owners, by “the government”, to bribe the criminals (crimes walking around in daylight) to go along with their gravy train. Let ‘em suffer enough, they’ll see the light. Eventually.

It is “grievance culture” in its very essence; no wonder Trump swept up so many of them with an anti-millennial zeal & ‘a righteous cause’: if they lose the stranglehold they’ve maintained on power since 1865, then they’ll NEVER get the reparations they believe THEY deserve, never get the respect they feel their ‘natural nobility’ is due (“Slavery ENNOBLES *every* white man!” proclaimed an anti-abolition pamphlet popular in the antebellum south (antebellum: “before the fight”)), never see the white people reclaim their exclusive grip on the top of the food chain.

It’s not exhaustive by any means, but that frame (or something much like it) is the only ‘scenario’ I’ve found that could actually seed & feed the enduring rage & jealousy, the paranoid vendetta mentality that we see & hear in so many perfectly ordinary people, the sense of standing on bedrock’ they’re able to maintain - & maybe account for / propel many (most? some?) of the scattered threads of derangement we now see gathered together in the House, among other places. Weird to think they’re nearer to winning NOW than they were in 1865…but then they’ve had a long time to practice the pseudo-legal slavery, their high-sounding & fake-principled justifications, cover stories, professions of patriotism & True Americanhood…and the rest of have had our eyes closed ALMOST ALL THAT TIME.

We believed them. Took them at their word. Took their ‘culture’ seriously, made real effort to compromise, repeatedly overlooked, even made excuses for in the name of unity & bipartisanship.

THEY have been at war with us ever since they were forced to admit that ARMS IN THE FIELD WOULD NOT WIN THE FIGHT. They have hidden among us, their unAmerican peculiarities shrugged off, their protestations acknowledged, their good faith assumed, just good Christian gawd-fearing’ folks, who want what’s best for us all, just like the rest of us.

We were wrong. Their idea was - IS - as different from mainstream American culture TODAY as Hitler’s idea (Confederate-style slavery w/ Jews, not Africans, because, well, there WERE Jews in Europe (…Africans = hard to come by)) was from the arc of European life, law, & civilization was in the ‘30s. We’re not on the same side: they want their property, their payment - or both - and if they can GET control & KEEP it, they’ll take it without a second thought.

Oh, almost forgot: one more thing they very much want: to punish the race traitors who let/made all this happen: Republicans then, Democrats now. The EEVILLE liberals and their big ideas about getting along & letting bygones be bygones & working together for the common welfare and defense & fulfilling the promise of America…. Imagine how “rolling coal”, “pwning the libs”, constant lies, libelous accusations, and an entirely fraudulent information chain (brainwashing) improves the chances that ‘patriots’ will cheer the most unpatriotic slogans, policies & people, double down on every dangerously insane slander or paranoid fantasy, and draw ever closer to destroying the nation itself in a pyhrric display of “destroying the village to save it”.


…sorry. Kinda went off-road: point was, how governments can accept citizens in squalor. I wonder what scripture the Hindus use to maintain the caste system
 
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Bagginski

Well-Known Member
They need to have an annual or monthly award for hypocrisy like the Oscars. WTF would believe this guy other than someone who was a fucking idiot or profoundly ignorant? These guys don't give America's racists and bigots much cover, do they, Jesus Christ.

…says the man using the legislature for political purposes (as has every GOOP caucus this century)
it is.....i was just reading some of the things Texas is doing......and they are just as fucked up than any........think Abbott is turning Authortarian on us with his cronies

WASHINGTON, D.C. — On Thursday, March 30, the Texas Senate’s State Affairs Committee advanced multiple anti-voting bills to the Senate floor. The bills impact multiple aspects of elections in the Lone Star State, including in-person voting, election irregularities and voter purges. Given Republican control of the Texas Senate, all of these bills have a good chance at advancing further in the legislative process.

Among the bills approved by the committee are

  • Senate Bill 260, which would allow the state to start the purge process for voters who have not voted in an election in the previous 25 months,
  • Senate Bill 990, which would eliminate the countywide polling program that allows voters to vote at any polling place in their county,
  • Senate Bill 1039, which would create a system for investigating alleged election irregularities and empower the secretary of state to appoint a conservator to oversee elections,
  • Senate Bill 1070, which would help pave the way for Texas to exit the voter data sharing organization ERIC,
  • Senate Bill 1807, which would create an enforcement mechanisms to punish officials who change any election procedure required by law without authorization and
  • Senate Bill 1950, which creates a new criminal penalty for election officials who suspend a statutory requirement that would require a mail ballot to be rejected.

The committee also heard testimony on several other bills that would allow the secretary of state to remove local elections officials, change election administration in the state’s largest counties, allow the secretary of state to order new elections in certain counties and establish a system of election law marshals. These bills have yet to receive a committee vote.

new voting bills
damn, look at all that freedom…I’d have thought that TEXANS of all people would be harder to steal from than this. Is Texas jealous of FLORIDA???
 
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DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member

Jim Jordan, who criminally defied a congressional subpoena, issues congressional subpoenas!

52,915 views Apr 6, 2023 #TeamJustice
Republican Representative Jim Jordan, head of the House Judiciary Committee, committed the crime of contempt of Congress when he defied a lawfully issue congressional subpoena. Yet now, Jordan is ISSUING congressional subpoenas in an attempt to interfere in New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg's criminal prosecution of Donald Trump.

Specifically, Jordan has subpoenaed Mark Pomerantz, a former NY prosecutor who investigated the crimes of Donald Trump. However, District Attorney Alvin Bragg has specifically put Jordan on notice that he is "interfering" in a New York prosecution, of engaging in "harassment and intimidation," and of "unlawful political interference." This conduct by Jordan is a violation of New York State law - specifically "Obstructing Governmental Administration," section 195.05.

The only remaining question is - will Jordan be held accountable for THIS crime?
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
OURS does. They’ve gotten better at hiding it (private) & better at trying to be accountable (public).

First time I saw people living in squalor was maybe 50 miles outside Macon. I was helping the church camp with a supply run, and along the way, we passed a field full of derelict old vehicles - dozens at least. Rusted out, missing doors, broken glass everywhere…and every single ONE a had a black *family* living in and around it. No shade, no other shelter. No water, no electricity. It had a catastrophic effect - apocalyptic - on me. I asked the pastor driving why all those people were living in such a place, under such conditions.

His response was matter-of-fact: “It’s their choice.”

The impact of these words from a man of gawd, THE most unchristian, un-Christ-like, thing I’d ever heard, sent me into orbit…but I kept it to myself. My distrust of white people on matters of race was already profound, and this clinched it. If he knew the length & breadth of my disapproval, he could have ruined me (still in high school), and my family. I kept it to myself…and I chewed on it for a long, long time.

Eventually, some things I learned bumped into something else I’d always wondered about, and *it* fell on the question of what ‘it’s their choice’ really meant…and I began to see they were all pieces of the same picture: from a particular POV, black people *aren’t* people at all, biology & reality notwithstanding; what they *are* - their ACTUAL STATE is PROPERTY. ESCAPED property. Doesn’t matter that Lincoln gave them cover under which to escape, they STILL escaped and theyre STILL property: their owners didn’t free them, they weren’t stolen away by scalawags, nobody paid for them, THEY STOLE THEMSELVES - and the LAW, THE GOVERNMENT let it happen, prevented their recapture & return to service, pretended they were due the same rights & privileges AS THEIR OWNERS…and just generally paraded around as if they HAD the right to do THAT.

Imagine the anxiety of white men with no skilled free labor to profit from - grow & harvest the crops, cut down, stripped & cooked down the sugar cane, the pine sap, make the carts and boxes and nails and charcoal and stoves and ships and lamps and hats, etc, tend to all the other farm stock, raise the children, feed, clean up after, and take care of the household, run errands….

Imagine the self-sympathy of that slaveless white man, having to shave himself; having to dress and clean himself; having to eat the cooking of a white woman who knew nothing about cooking (though she knew what her favorite dishes were); having to see the walking criminal of escaped slaves walking the streets every day; having to NOT drag his malingering escaped property by the hair back to the house & beat him until he understood his position. Imagine how many there were; imagine how many of them were veterans of the rebellion; imagine how many of them worked as police, as sheriffs, as prison guards.

Imagine how fucking angry they got every time *any* of it got stuck in their craw - with EVERY black face in view a fresh insult, a new wound to their pride & independence. Imagine how groups like the Klan, Sons of the Confedracy, White Citizens Councils came together naturally. Imagine how seamlessly the jim-crow ‘way of things’ came together, maintaining slavery in everything but name, hiding all the while behind the church, the flag(s) and their bullshit pretense that they were above racial animus, but the law is the law & must be respected and obeyed, evvybody got rights….

The roots of MAGA - and the roots of inhumanity are in the words of that preacher: it’s their choice. They could have gone back to their masters, accepted their punishment & returned to their labors, but no. THAT was not their choice: it was their choice to NOT do that, and squalor, hunger, disease, and being ‘kept where we could keep an eye on ’em’ are the hand maids of their choice. If they don’t like it, don’t want it, they can surrender & accept their state as property.

But they better not ask for - or TAKE - a single *dime* of tax money: until their owners’ descendants are PAID for on-the-hoof livestock, every dime of it would be stolen from their owners, by “the government”, to bribe the criminals (crimes walking around in daylight) to go along with their gravy train. Let ‘em suffer enough, they’ll see the light. Eventually.

It is “grievance culture” in its very essence; no wonder Trump swept up so many of them with an anti-millennial zeal & ‘a righteous cause’: if they lose the stranglehold they’ve maintained on power since 1865, then they’ll NEVER get the reparations they believe THEY deserve, never get the respect they feel their ‘natural nobility’ is due (“Slavery ENNOBLES *every* white man!” proclaimed an anti-abolition pamphlet popular in the antebellum south (antebellum: “before the fight”)), never see the white people reclaim their exclusive grip on the top of the food chain.

It’s not exhaustive by any means, but that frame (or something much like it) is the only ‘scenario’ I’ve found that could actually seed & feed the enduring rage & jealousy, the paranoid vendetta mentality that we see & hear in so many perfectly ordinary people, the sense of standing on bedrock’ they’re able to maintain - & maybe account for / propel many (most? some?) of the scattered threads of derangement we now see gathered together in the House, among other places. Weird to think they’re nearer to winning NOW than they were in 1865…but then they’ve had a long time to practice the pseudo-legal slavery, their high-sounding & fake-principled justifications, cover stories, professions of patriotism & True Americanhood…and the rest of have had our eyes closed ALMOST ALL THAT TIME.

We believed them. Took them at their word. Took their ‘culture’ seriously, made real effort to compromise, repeatedly overlooked, even made excuses for in the name of unity & bipartisanship.

THEY have been at war with us ever since they were forced to admit that ARMS IN THE FIELD WOULD NOT WIN THE FIGHT. They have hidden among us, their unAmerican peculiarities shrugged off, their protestations acknowledged, their good faith assumed, just good Christian gawd-fearing’ folks, who want what’s best for us all, just like the rest of us.

We were wrong. Their idea was - IS - as different from mainstream American culture TODAY as Hitler’s idea (Confederate-style slavery w/ Jews, not Africans, because, well, there WERE Jews in Europe (…Africans = hard to come by)) was from the arc of European life, law, & civilization was in the ‘30s. We’re not on the same side: they want their property, their payment - or both - and if they can GET control & KEEP it, they’ll take it without a second thought.

Oh, almost forgot: one more thing they very much want: to punish the race traitors who let/made all this happen: Republicans then, Democrats now. The EEVILLE liberals and their big ideas about getting along & letting bygones be bygones & working together for the common welfare and defense & fulfilling the promise of America…. Imagine how “rolling coal”, “pwning the libs”, constant lies, libelous accusations, and an entirely fraudulent information chain (brainwashing) improves the chances that ‘patriots’ will cheer the most unpatriotic slogans, policies & people, double down on every dangerously insane slander or paranoid fantasy, and draw ever closer to destroying the nation itself in a pyhrric display of “destroying the village to save it”.


…sorry. Kinda went off-road: point was, how governments can accept citizens in squalor. I wonder what scripture the Hindus use to maintain the caste system
the Rigged Veda
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus

Jim Jordan, who criminally defied a congressional subpoena, issues congressional subpoenas!

52,915 views Apr 6, 2023 #TeamJustice
Republican Representative Jim Jordan, head of the House Judiciary Committee, committed the crime of contempt of Congress when he defied a lawfully issue congressional subpoena. Yet now, Jordan is ISSUING congressional subpoenas in an attempt to interfere in New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg's criminal prosecution of Donald Trump.

Specifically, Jordan has subpoenaed Mark Pomerantz, a former NY prosecutor who investigated the crimes of Donald Trump. However, District Attorney Alvin Bragg has specifically put Jordan on notice that he is "interfering" in a New York prosecution, of engaging in "harassment and intimidation," and of "unlawful political interference." This conduct by Jordan is a violation of New York State law - specifically "Obstructing Governmental Administration," section 195.05.

The only remaining question is - will Jordan be held accountable for THIS crime?
Some of his constituents should use this service!

 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
For those who haven’t caught up, it’s the BILLIONAIRES bankrolling the overthrow, top to bottom & coast to coast. They’re tired of having peasants having any say at all, they’re tired of not being able to run things DIRECTLY via their installed manager-class without running afoul of ethics, laws, decency, “Christian values”, public opinion, the constitution, etc.

There need to be things - acts, purchases, influence - that MONEY CANNOT DO. Let them HAVE their freaking money, just don’t let them buy the home world
fuck that, i say cook the fuckers and feed them to the poor, while their wealth is getting redistributed to people who they fucked over for their entire lives.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
This makes me sick
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tennessee-house-remove-justin-jones-nashville-shooting-protest/
Pathetic, petty republicans, using any means possible to cement themselves into a majority they do not deserve.
Now, Nashville and Memphis, as well as Knoxville, will send the most aggressively liberal replacements that they can, and it will be open fighting in the house, as they stall everything they can stall, tip over every republican cart they can....and the republicans deserve EVERY bit of it, and much more.
 
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