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DIY-HP-LED

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Completely different thing. Almost all pure math is timeless.
I was only concerned with its predictive power, not the theory or even if math was real! It is about the only thing that can predict future events, even statistical models of populations and behaviors, and is a no brainer for physical events. Nothing else shares its predictive powers when coupled with science. This leads me to believe math is real and not a complete human construct, it can tell me if I do this or that I can DIE! :lol:

An engineer could do much without the predictive powers of math and our faith is expressed every time we cross a bridge or fly in a plane.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I was only concerned with its predictive power, not the theory or even if math was real! It is about the only thing that can predict future events, even statistical models of populations and behaviors, and is a no brainer for physical events. Nothing else shares its predictive powers when coupled with science. This leads me to believe math is real and not a complete human construct, it can tell me if I do this or that I can DIE! :lol:

An engineer could do much without the predictive powers of math and our faith is expressed every time we cross a bridge or fly in a plane.
math ≠ physics or engineering

Just as the dictionary ≠ literature (have you ever pondered the contradiction inherent in graduating English majors who know a c*ntload of literature but almost no linguistics or philology?)

You left yourself open, and I provided a service.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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math ≠ physics or engineering

Just as the dictionary ≠ literature (have you ever pondered the contradiction inherent in graduating English majors who know a c*ntload of literature but almost no linguistics or philology?)

You left yourself open, and I provided a service.
Picky and misses the point.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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math ≠ physics or engineering

Just as the dictionary ≠ literature (have you ever pondered the contradiction inherent in graduating English majors who know a c*ntload of literature but almost no linguistics or philology?)

You left yourself open, and I provided a service.
It can also predict business failure!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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no: it makes the point. You were sloppy and evocative.
Math is a tool used in many human endeavors to predict events, not just physics and engineering which are mere obvious examples, no need to go down the rabbit hole. When we quantify and qualify we can use math.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Math is a tool used in many human endeavors to predict events, not just physics and engineering which are mere obvious examples, no need to go down the rabbit hole. When we quantify and qualify we can use math.
no! Math as a tool is the province of applications like engineering, sociology, yadaa yadaa.

That is not about the math. It is about using math in the harness of other disciplines. Euclid’s geometries and Fermat’s theorems could not give the proverbial deep-fried rat’s buttock about time-dependent phenomena.

What I’m. saying is that you spoke about the whole when you were actually discussing a conditioned application. I have known math Ph. Ds. They uniformly hawk a variegated loogie on the applications.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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no! Math as a tool is the province of applications like engineering, sociology, yadaa yadaa.

That is not about the math. It is about using math in the harness of other disciplines. Euclid’s geometries and Fermat’s theorems could not give the proverbial deep-fried rat’s buttock about time-dependent phenomena.

What I’m. saying is that you spoke about the whole when you were actually discussing a conditioned application. I have known math Ph. Ds. They uniformly hawk a variegated loogie on the applications.
My only point is that math is about the only tool that can predict future events, it has other uses too, aside from amusing nerds. :lol:
 

printer

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Circus time?

Trump uses footage from New York arraignment in new campaign ad
Former President Trump used footage from last week’s arraignment in New York as part of a new campaign ad released on Thursday.
Trump posted the ad on his Truth Social account, telling his followers that if they are “doing poorly,” they should not send him money, but if they are “doing well,” they should donate to him.

The ad shows scenes from around Manhattan before featuring Trump walking into the arraignment. It also includes voiceovers from commentators criticizing the case from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and Trump asserting that he is innocent.

The video shows some people on the streets as Trump is traveling to the hearing waving Trump and American flags and supporters applauding him as he took the stage at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday night for his first comments after his arraignment.
Donald Trump Jr., his son, also posted the video on his Twitter account on Friday.

Trump’s arrest fueled significant donations to his campaign, bringing in more than $4 million in the 24 hours after he was indicted.

His campaign also sought to fundraise through a T-shirt with a fake mug shot of Trump with the words “Not Guilty” under the picture. The campaign offered the shirts for a $47 donation.

The former president was charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to a hush-money payment that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen made to adult film star Stormy Daniels. The payment was made ahead of the 2016 presidential election for Daniels to remain quiet about an alleged affair she has said she had with Trump.

Trump pleaded not guilty to all charges and has denied having an affair with Daniels.

The Art Of The Grift.
 

Herb & Suds

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Circus time?

Trump uses footage from New York arraignment in new campaign ad
Former President Trump used footage from last week’s arraignment in New York as part of a new campaign ad released on Thursday.
Trump posted the ad on his Truth Social account, telling his followers that if they are “doing poorly,” they should not send him money, but if they are “doing well,” they should donate to him.

The ad shows scenes from around Manhattan before featuring Trump walking into the arraignment. It also includes voiceovers from commentators criticizing the case from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg and Trump asserting that he is innocent.

The video shows some people on the streets as Trump is traveling to the hearing waving Trump and American flags and supporters applauding him as he took the stage at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday night for his first comments after his arraignment.
Donald Trump Jr., his son, also posted the video on his Twitter account on Friday.

Trump’s arrest fueled significant donations to his campaign, bringing in more than $4 million in the 24 hours after he was indicted.

His campaign also sought to fundraise through a T-shirt with a fake mug shot of Trump with the words “Not Guilty” under the picture. The campaign offered the shirts for a $47 donation.

The former president was charged with 34 felony counts of falsifying business records related to a hush-money payment that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen made to adult film star Stormy Daniels. The payment was made ahead of the 2016 presidential election for Daniels to remain quiet about an alleged affair she has said she had with Trump.

Trump pleaded not guilty to all charges and has denied having an affair with Daniels.
Please for the love of all that is dear to me
Always delete any reference to “President “ when referring to him
He seems to like Donald Trump in third person when referring to himself
But I’m more of a John Barron kinda guy :hug:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Secret Service testifies to grand jury investigating Trump's mishandling of classified documents

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Donald Trump’s indictment this week on 34 charges of falsifying business documents may have dominated the news, but it’s just one of a series of ongoing investigations into actions by Trump. All of those other investigations—in New York state, in Fulton County, Georgia, and especially before a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C.—are potentially far more serious than what’s happening right now in Manhattan.

One of the two investigations being conducted simultaneously by special counsel Jack Smith concerns Trump’s handling of classified information, which he took with him to Mar-a-Lago, refused to return, and lied about repeatedly. Among those documents were many that were highly classified, including some that were classified as Top Secret and a number that were flagged as “compartmented,” placing them at the very highest of possible classification. At least one document reportedly related to the nuclear program of a foreign power, rumored to be Iran.

Last month, a federal judge ordered Trump's attorney Evan Corcoran to testify before the grand jury investigating Trump’s actions in taking and holding these documents. Now it looks as if Corcoran is far from the only witness with something interesting to tell the jury. According to CBS News, several Secret Service agents are set to testify before the jury.

What they have to say may reveal details of how Trump tried to cover up his continued control of classified documents and possibly who else has gotten a peek.

A thousand mystery stories turn on the same idea: Wealthy, powerful people tend to forget that “the help” is still around. That a scullery maid, butler, or gardener is an actual person with functional hearing and a concern about justice often comes as a jaw-dropping revelation to the upper-crust protagonists of many an English mystery.

Those stories may be mostly fictional, but in real life, Trump has spent the last six years with at least one Secret Service member always somewhere within a dozen yards, except for the time he spent before the judge during his arraignment when the New York City police were apparently considered adequate protection.

That kind of persistent, low interaction presence—and you know Trump isn’t spending a lot of his day chatting up the security staff—is exactly the kind of relationship that doesn’t breed just contempt, but invisibility. It’s also very easy for Trump, or anyone else dealing with such an arrangement, to assume that, just because the agents are there to provide protection, they also represent friends.

It’s true enough that some members of the Secret Service (and even one is enough to represent a concern) have expressed sympathy not just with Trump, but with Trump supporters connected to Jan. 6. But it’s a pretty good bet that some of these people have had more than enough of Trump. Because they’ve had to be around him. And we’ve already had one good example of how Trump treats members of the Secret Service if they don’t obey his every whim.

Hutchinson: “The president said something to the effect of, ‘I’m the f’ing president, take me up to the Capitol now!’ To which Bobby responded, ‘Sir, we have to go back to the West Wing.’ The president reached up to the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Mr. Engel grabbed his arm and said, ‘Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. We’re going back to the West Wing, we’re not going to the Capitol.’ Mr. Trump then used his free hand to lunge toward Bobby Engel. And when Mr. Ornoto told the story to me, he motioned toward his clavicle.”

In a period of almost 20 months, Trump moved boxes of classified documents in and out of a storage area in Mar-a-Lago. He also took some documents, including those at the highest classification, to his personal office.

Who, other than Trump, has gone in and out of that office? The Secret Service knows.

Trump may feel like some bodyguard-client privilege protects him from any testimony by these agents, but that is not a thing. Secret Service agents are famously discreet in dealing with the personal information of those they protect. That doesn’t mean they’re going to lie under oath to protect Donald Trump.

According to CBS, there are a number of Secret Service officials slated to appear before the jury “over coming weeks.” That’s probably a good indicator that an indictment against Trump on charges related to the document case is not about to appear tomorrow. But it’s also an indicator that the members of the grand jury and the Justice Department staff involved in the investigation are going to be very aware of actions Trump has taken to lie about the documents he was holding, to shift those documents around to prevent them from being found, and most importantly, to show these classified documents to others.

Our planned Ukraine episode will have to wait, as Donald Trump is being arraigned in New York City for his role in falsifying records to hide hush money paid to Stormy Daniels. This is the first of a potential slew of indictments coming Trump’s way, and we are here for a celebration of karmic justice—and to talk about what happens to the Republican Party after this.
 
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