Anybody growing mushrooms willing to talk???

Drop That Sound

Drop That Sound

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7L!fTeD24 said:
Fungus gnats most likely.You could end up with maggots if they lay eggs.
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If they are, you could probably spray with BTi right? I dunno about pf cakes or any indoor cult.. but I got gnats in my outdoor ovoid tub earlier this year and just sprinkled in some mosquito bits on top the mulch. Seemed to do the trick, and doesn't hurt the mycelium.
 
Drop That Sound

Drop That Sound

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The surfaces look good, different cultures colonize the surface differently. Sometimes it’ll be totally white and sometimes it’ll look bare until pins start breaking through.


a real casing is made of peat and verm, using more of whatever substrate is in the tub is jsut called a top layer.

mushrooms have so many genetics in them that you never know what will happen with a particular tub, but overall a top layer will improve things.
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Would the real casing layer consisting of peat or whatever need to be ph'ed or anything special?
 
Fangthane

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When I first started looking into growing shrooms, BRF cakes seemed like a fairly low-yielding pain in the nuts way of doing it. Maybe I'm just missing something, but spawning to bulk just seems so much better. Never understood why BRF is apparently so popular.
 
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Fruiting cakes was the easiest way to start back in the day because you don’t need a pressure cooker or agar. For years I’ve been saying shoeboxes are the way to go now. Fruiting a cake requires a lot of knowledge about surface conditions and manipulating the environment which obviously you can’t have starting out.


Drop That Sound said:
Would the real casing layer consisting of peat or whatever need to be ph'ed or anything special?
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so if you make your own you will have to add lime or oyster shell to peat and verm to adjust the ph levels.

I always used this jiffy mix potting soil that was a perfect premixed casing. It’s been a couple years since I bought some but last I checked it was hard to find that specific product now. For some reason they’ve started swapping the peat with coir in everything.
 
7L!fTeD24

7L!fTeD24

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Fruiting cakes was the easiest way to start back in the day because you don’t need a pressure cooker or agar. For years I’ve been saying shoeboxes are the way to go now. Fruiting a cake requires a lot of knowledge about surface conditions and manipulating the environment which obviously you can’t have starting out.





so if you make your own you will have to add lime or oyster shell to peat and verm to adjust the ph levels.

I always used this jiffy mix potting soil that was a perfect premixed casing. It’s been a couple years since I bought some but last I checked it was hard to find that specific product now. For some reason they’ve started swapping the peat with coir in everything.
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I took ^His^ advice a couple years ago and tried shoeboxes and everything started going great from there and been non stop learning and improving ever since. IMO it's the best place to start and really get the hang of things.
 
natureboygrower

natureboygrower

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7L!fTeD24 said:
I took ^His^ advice a couple years ago and tried shoeboxes and everything started going great from there and been non stop learning and improving ever since. IMO it's the best place to start and really get the hang of things.
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Is it the size that makes shoeboxes so great? I need to go back to the beginning of this thread and see what exactly you're doing. I've only done a couple runs with popcorn kernels and jars ( canndo has a very informative thread on this tek) i only had to throw 1 jar outta 24 due to contam, but damn i got tired of picking them. They flushed from July into October both runs. Could I PC/inoculate the kernels like I have and use the boxes rather than growing directly in jars?

Btw, appreciate you starting this thread. One of my favorites on RIU. You guys are killing it.
 
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It’s not the size, just the tub set up. Any size container will work it just takes a little bit of dialing in. Tubs pretty much run themselves except for needing a little misting if the coir was a little under hydrated. I haven’t touched a tub in a long time, just spawn and wait to harvest.

also if you improve the conditions you’ll get through the tub quicker. If you have a dialed in tub and a decent culture you’ll be pretty much done in two flushes.

you can expect 1.5-2oz dry shrooms for every quart of spawn that goes into it. The tubs I’ve been running of that PB clone are 3 quarts of spawn and average around 120g the first flush and 40g second flush. At that point I usually toss them or they start to mold but if I let them keep going the third flush is maybe 15g of weird little shrooms cuz the spawn is spent.
 
canndo

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natureboygrower said:
Is it the size that makes shoeboxes so great? I need to go back to the beginning of this thread and see what exactly you're doing. I've only done a couple runs with popcorn kernels and jars ( canndo has a very informative thread on this tek) i only had to throw 1 jar outta 24 due to contam, but damn i got tired of picking them. They flushed from July into October both runs. Could I PC/inoculate the kernels like I have and use the boxes rather than growing directly in jars?

Btw, appreciate you starting this thread. One of my favorites on RIU. You guys are killing it.
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Yes you can. Your flushes will be bigger and not last as long.
 
7L!fTeD24

7L!fTeD24

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natureboygrower said:
Is it the size that makes shoeboxes so great? I need to go back to the beginning of this thread and see what exactly you're doing. I've only done a couple runs with popcorn kernels and jars ( canndo has a very informative thread on this tek) i only had to throw 1 jar outta 24 due to contam, but damn i got tired of picking them. They flushed from July into October both runs. Could I PC/inoculate the kernels like I have and use the boxes rather than growing directly in jars?

Btw, appreciate you starting this thread. One of my favorites on RIU. You guys are killing it.
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Yep same process of inoculating jars, I just use bird seed it's worked the best for me so far. When the jars are fully colonized. I would use 1qt of spawn pe 6qt shoebox. I use a black trash bag for a liner in The tub. Then shake up the jar and mix the 1 qt of spawn with coco and put a layer of coco on top of that mix. Also gotta prep the coco 1st using bucket tek pasteurization. All you do is break up a brick of coco in a bucket and pour boiling water in and put the lid on. When the shoebox is made up, you snap the lid on. In under 2 weeks, the whole surface will be colonized. Then you can just unsnap the lid or put another Tub upside down on top of it for a tub tub. Simple and effective.received_1098648727414452.jpeg20220816_090934.jpg
 
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