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DIY-HP-LED

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It could have been Wagner people looking for work, evidence of government involvement is what would be needed, and someone supplied captured Ukrainian weapons to Hamas for a PR show. Mossad and the CIA will know what the score is with Russia, Iran is fucked over this for sure. It is forcing the GOP in congress to freak out and get their shit together, even to the point where Jefferies becomes speaker of a coalition. Aid to Israel will be tied to aid for Ukraine and keeping the government running for a year or until the end of this congress. Trump put both feet in his mouth and the magats are left twisting in the wind.
 

BudmanTX

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It could have been Wagner people looking for work, evidence of government involvement is what would be needed, and someone supplied captured Ukrainian weapons to Hamas for a PR show. Mossad and the CIA will know what the score is with Russia, Iran is fucked over this for sure. It is forcing the GOP in congress to freak out and get their shit together, even to the point where Jefferies becomes speaker of a coalition. Aid to Israel will be tied to aid for Ukraine and keeping the government running for a year or until the end of this congress. Trump put both feet in his mouth and the magats are left twisting in the wind.
i know, for me following the events and such....i know there is a smoking gun out there.....even listening to the BS Brigade there are some tid bits of info, like Russia supports the palestinians and hamas and the such.....everything i've been finding links Putin hand in this.....

Yeah i've been think about the shit show of the speakership...and ya know...i think Jefferies would be a great speaker....and i think he can get all the Dems and a few of the Repugs to his side....he's got it.....
 

printer

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White House: North Korea has provided Russia with 1K containers of military equipment, munitions
The White House on Friday announced that North Korea has delivered military equipment to Russia amid the country’s invasion of Ukraine.

“Due in part to our sanctions and export controls, Russia has been forced to desperately search around the world for military equipment,” National Security Adviser John Kirby told reporters. “We now have information that North Korea has delivered arms to Russia for use in Ukraine. Our information indicates that in recent weeks, North Korea has provided Russia with more than 1000 containers of military equipment and munitions.”

The White House released imagery on Friday showing the movement of these containers from the DPRK into Russia by ship.

“We condemn the DPRK for providing Russia with this military equipment,” Kirby said, adding that the White House will monitor the situation and continue to expose such arms deals.

The update follows weeks of concerns over North Korean attempts to negotiate an arms deal with Russia. North Korean leader Kim Jong Un met with Russian President Vladimir Putin last month.



Kirby said U.S. officials are now monitoring closely whether Moscow will provide Pyongyang with materials.

“This expanding military partnership between the DPRK and Russia, including any technology transfers from Russia to the DPRK, undermines regional stability and the global non-proliferation regime,” he said.

On Thursday, an American aircraft carrier arrived in South Korea as a demonstration of strength as tensions rise with North Korea. The carrier group will stay in Busan until next Monday, following military drills with South Korea and Japan earlier this week.

The White House has warned North Korea against supplying Russia with arms amid its war against Ukraine. National security adviser Jake Sullivan last month said Pyongyang will “pay a price” if it follows through on a potential deal.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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White House: North Korea has provided Russia with 1K containers of military equipment, munitions
The White House on Friday announced that North Korea has delivered military equipment to Russia amid the country’s invasion of Ukraine.

“Due in part to our sanctions and export controls, Russia has been forced to desperately search around the world for military equipment,” National Security Adviser John Kirby told reporters. “We now have information that North Korea has delivered arms to Russia for use in Ukraine. Our information indicates that in recent weeks, North Korea has provided Russia with more than 1000 containers of military equipment and munitions.”

The White House released imagery on Friday showing the movement of these containers from the DPRK into Russia by ship.

“We condemn the DPRK for providing Russia with this military equipment,” Kirby said, adding that the White House will monitor the situation and continue to expose such arms deals.

The update follows weeks of concerns over North Korean attempts to negotiate an arms deal with Russia. North Korean leader Kim Jong Un met with Russian President Vladimir Putin last month.



Kirby said U.S. officials are now monitoring closely whether Moscow will provide Pyongyang with materials.

“This expanding military partnership between the DPRK and Russia, including any technology transfers from Russia to the DPRK, undermines regional stability and the global non-proliferation regime,” he said.

On Thursday, an American aircraft carrier arrived in South Korea as a demonstration of strength as tensions rise with North Korea. The carrier group will stay in Busan until next Monday, following military drills with South Korea and Japan earlier this week.

The White House has warned North Korea against supplying Russia with arms amid its war against Ukraine. National security adviser Jake Sullivan last month said Pyongyang will “pay a price” if it follows through on a potential deal.
South Korea will supply arms to Ukraine in response, it is in their interests to see Russia lose the war and break apart. There is now a reason to attack those rail bridges across large rivers in Siberia to cut Russia from east to west and off from North Korea. Recent events might see a closer alliance with Israel and South Korea to Ukraine.

I dunno about Russia's and Iran's involvement in the Hamas attack though, elements in each country could be involved, there are reports of the Iranian government, or some in it being blindsided by Hamas and it might be the same with Wagner in Russia, we will see as the intelligence agencies get to the bottom of it, they don't need to prove things to a jury to take action against either of them, just government approval.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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By blocking funding for Ukraine, the magats are stabbing allies like Finland, the Baltic states, Poland and others, in the back, it's not just Ukraine they will betray to the Russians. What is Tiawan to think about this fickle support and divided house? What are potential allies to think? Just what Russia wants them to, America is an unreliable and undependable ally and when push comes to shove, they will run. Everybody sees the defeat being snatched from the jaws of victory, Russia is on the ropes and needs Trump and his friends in congress's help by blocking help for Ukraine. Vlad has been more successful in America than on the battlefield in Ukraine, but his main man in America is going down, as is his army in Ukraine. His biggest asset now is Donald's American army of 5th column cultists, morons and miscreants. The war in Ukraine and the struggle for liberal democracy has two fronts, one in America and one in Ukraine and both are linked by a common enemy.

 

printer

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They will get a limited amount, might not make too much difference for a few months.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They will get a limited amount, might not make too much difference for a few months.
I thought they already had them, but they were a recent innovation using a glide bomb and plentiful rockets.130km is a long reach and if they have enough of them it will drive Russian C&C and logistics even further from the front. Since they use rockets and bombs that they already have plenty of, the booster adaptors and GPS glide bomb kits were the hold up, so they should be able to supply them in large numbers.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I thought they already had them, but they were a recent innovation using a glide bomb and plentiful rockets.130km is a long reach and if they have enough of them it will drive Russian C&C and logistics even further from the front. Since they use rockets and bombs that they already have plenty of, the booster adaptors and GPS glide bomb kits were the hold up, so they should be able to supply them in large numbers.
A big problem is shown by a vid posted here a few days ago showing Russian helicopters (Ka-52, Mi-28?) flying unchallenged over parts of the battlefield. Ukraine badly needs more antiair assets on the ground.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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A big problem is shown by a vid posted here a few days ago showing Russian helicopters (Ka-52, Mi-28?) flying unchallenged over parts of the battlefield. Ukraine badly needs more antiair assets on the ground.
As far as I know they are getting more air defense all the time, but the Ukrainians need more in the active combat zones. Israel might be able to help with AA, depending on how motivated the Hamas attack makes them and what happens with their own war. If they attack Iran, they will face drone and missile attacks themselves. Time to berm up around the power transformers and erect cages of chain link fence and commercial fishing nets around them on high poles, keeps the suicide drones away at least.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
… depending on how motivated the Hamas attack makes them and what happens with their own war.
I think at this point that Israel has to look to their own security. I don’t think they can spare much in the way of AA assets for Ukraine. In fact, they’re probably short on the sort of point-defense weapons needed to fill in the gaps now apparent in Iron Dome (the same sort that Ukraine can use now). The Germans and a coupla other EU members seem to have the tastiest ordnance in that category.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think at this point that Israel has to look to their own security. I don’t think they can spare much in the way of AA assets for Ukraine. In fact, they’re probably short on the sort of point-defense weapons needed to fill in the gaps now apparent in Iron Dome (the same sort that Ukraine can use now). The Germans and a coupla other EU members seem to have the tastiest ordnance in that category.
There will be no problems with Uncle Sam supplying Israel and Joe will use it to fund Ukraine, America hasn't employed a fraction of its capabilities there. Sure, they are temporarily short of land-based combat stuff because that is not how America would prosecute a war like this, they would crush them with airpower first! When Ukraine gets its new airforce it will be the coup de grace for the Russians in Ukraine who should be in a sorry state when the F16s arrive. It will be safer for them then when Russian AA defense is depleted, and Russian capabilities are degraded more, they are preparing the way. The Ukrainians don't want to expose the AA systems they do have and those Helicopter launched missiles are unguided and not very accurate as are the Russian glide bombs, but they don't need to be because they make such a large hole.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think at this point that Israel has to look to their own security. I don’t think they can spare much in the way of AA assets for Ukraine. In fact, they’re probably short on the sort of point-defense weapons needed to fill in the gaps now apparent in Iron Dome (the same sort that Ukraine can use now). The Germans and a coupla other EU members seem to have the tastiest ordnance in that category.
Ukraine should be getting F16s soon and when they do, they would like to jump the Russians with them right from the beginning. If you think about it, there are an awful lot of F16s and other types going to be replaced over the next 5 years as more F22 and F35s along with the new European stealth fighters replace them, Uncle Sam is also replacing 12,000 heavy duty military trucks in about the same time frame Humvees too. I think Ukraine will benefit from this surplus supplied with spares. As for now the allies will supply what they can for air defense, most of it was for defense against the Russians anyway, might as well use it in Ukraine. The Russians are clearly on the ropes in Ukraine and are monumental fuckups who are also as corrupt as Satan. The Europeans feel a lot more confident about being able to deal with Russia than they did before the war began, then everybody trembled before the mighty bear, no more.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
There will be no problems with Uncle Sam supplying Israel and Joe will use it to fund Ukraine, America hasn't employed a fraction of its capabilities there. Sure, they are temporarily short of land-based combat stuff because that is not how America would prosecute a war like this, they would crush them with airpower first! When Ukraine gets its new airforce it will be the coup de grace for the Russians in Ukraine who should be in a sorry state when the F16s arrive. It will be safer for them then when Russian AA defense is depleted, and Russian capabilities are degraded more, they are preparing the way. The Ukrainians don't want to expose the AA systems they do have and those Helicopter launched missiles are unguided and not very accurate as are the Russian glide bombs, but they don't need to be because they make such a large hole.
One thing that worries me is that Ukraine has to figure a burn rate for their resources in hand to stop and turn the aggressor.

A high burn rate favors Ukraine, so long as the Western resources promised to restock those resources pan out.

But something that has become apparent lately is that Western states are a moving target. I imagine that is covered by Ukraine’s calculus.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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One thing that worries me is that Ukraine has to figure a burn rate for their resources in hand to stop and turn the aggressor.

A high burn rate favors Ukraine, so long as the Western resources promised to restock those resources pan out.

But something that has become apparent lately is that Western states are a moving target. I imagine that is covered by Ukraine’s calculus.
Russia has been doing a lot of attacking and dying recently, their loses of equipment and tanks has been horrendous, but they have 1000 containers of shit on the way from North Korea too. Artillery shells are the big thing IMO and production has been ramping up, the great accuracy of the 155mm artillery means Ukraine only needs a fifth to a tenth of the shells to do the same job. Cluster munitions are the most effective in this mostly infantry fight. The Ukrainians are fighting smart and absorbing a minimum of casualties and many more of them survive their wounds, the Russians are losing more men and equipment than ever.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Russia has been doing a lot of attacking and dying recently, their loses of equipment and tanks has been horrendous, but they have 1000 containers of shit on the way from North Korea too. Artillery shells are the big thing IMO and production has been ramping up, the great accuracy of the 155mm artillery means Ukraine only needs a fifth to a tenth of the shells to do the same job. Cluster munitions are the most effective in this mostly infantry fight. The Ukrainians are fighting smart and absorbing a minimum of casualties and many more of them survive their wounds, the Russians are losing more men and equipment than ever.
I must admit after Russian war shit got an awful Yelp review, I’m curious to how the Democratic People’s Republic’s matériel stacks up.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The Russians don't learn and keep making the same mistakes.


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