Setting up dtw coco 2.5x5 tent

medidedicated

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Damn I dont even have a lot of beans left. Am sure a good chunk of those arent the strains I am looking for. About to order some beans after I look up which one of these may be what I am looking for. The ones you cant read are sweet soma, cheesilicious and mother of berries.
 

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medidedicated

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That pump I posted on last page works awesome. Just like a shop vac but way better. I was borrowing a shop vac and just didnt feel right to use it for that. Like it was super hard on it to do 5 gallons real fast, it kept doing that clogged vacuum sound until I turned it off and back on and go slower.

So the pump just flawlessly pumps out the water down to .8” which is enough to move the reservoir around without feeling like damaging it by going against manufacture recommendations but you freakin have to at some point but maybe they meant just nothing above a gallon or so.

Which it really felt like no wear was resulting from it. I can drain through spout or just tip it upside down to get the last gallon out. I dont think its even a gallon, the weight of pumps felt like more strain than the .5 or .7 gallons remaining.

Never seen a pump like that, I think my little giant said not to submerge in water all the way as its not completely water tight in motor area and etc. So I just punp into drain tub and then drain the tub and throw in the pump as needed like a shop vac to transfer and then trade hoses to use a longer one to pump right outside.

So takes a lot of work out compared to before. So I been throwing real concentrated doses of shock into drain tub and its staying clean and less slimey so I think I can keep it as clean as feed reservoir which is still pretty clean after a few weeks no cleaning.

The drain tub just needs be cleaned but pushing it another week since I cleaned it recently but wasnt replenishing the shock. Just being lazy and its not that dirty right now. I think the slime came before using the right shock dose so pretty sure I can keep it much cleaner.
 

medidedicated

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Woohoo! After a bunch of nonsense not being able to send correct tent I just got vivosun and as usual doesnt dissapoint. Zippers are the butteriest I ever had on a tent. 4x2x5.

So thats what the veg will look like, I think just one 25 gal reservoir and share the 60 gal with the other tent. Will help keep the drain tub clean, having water traffic through more often with pool shock.

So got some work to do. Need suggestions on a flood tray that drains as drain away trays wont fit 4 per side so need a tray and perhaps raise plants and hook tray to condensate bucket.

I got two 65w fecidas. Pretty bright! They have all spectrum and ir and uv. Nothing fancy, just veg lights that I trust in terms of fire hazard and quality.
 

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medidedicated

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Finding or figuring out the pots and drip system is hard. Because I want to do 8 one gallon plants and have 8 more for perpetuating and then 2 more for mothers. Something like that.

Doing 2 gallon plants and larger per plant for less count, it messes up the symmetry which is why I jumped on the 8 one gal suggestiom, its a perfect 1.25 square foot per plant, 2 oz goal per plant, super easy to do and can almost guarentee a pound a harvest this way.

I looked into rockwool and knew it was too good to be true, sticking to coco. Well, it may be a little easier but the overwatering sounds easy to do but then again I didnt struggle with that in soil but I just am invested in coco.
 
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medidedicated

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Thinking of using these, the splitter would help avoid kinking and the 1/4” tubing as well which was suggested. The tall/narrow pots I use help with water distribution by narrowing the surface area. Now just need a manifold. In theory a 800gph pump should power the whole tent of 8 one gallon pots.

What yall think? Need to order more pots so I am wondering.
 

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medidedicated

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Bad habbit of asking questions and just doing things anyway. I got all pots needed, 9” tall 6” wide and velcro so they can be air layered which never done before but I cloned for first time recently so I think I can make it happen as one suggested.

This will overwrite plant count so I can have 12 but technically the air layered mothers dont count. So I can have up to 4 mothers in my veg tent for strain variance which 8 clones will come from and be chopped and flipped right away.

So now just need a manifold.
 

medidedicated

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What is the diameter of your pots?

I'm using 1 1,000 GPH pump to water 9 plants in 2g pots to run off in about a minute and ten seconds.

I made DIY halos and I'm not really happy with their consistency. Switching to netafim halos after this grow is complete.


Not including the new halos I have less than $50 in this system.

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Do you have to make a base for the manifolds? I just need a way to hold them up and not finding anything. I got these so far and I guess just need to find a way to keep it propped up. Any suggestions for an easy fix? Edit the swing pipe I can get at store for cheap, just one or two.
 

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medidedicated

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I have more in the cart, I have more sprinkler risers and couplers to have the pvc bend onto the ground to be supported somehow then pvc coupler with an adaptor to turn into 1/2” tubing to run to the reservoir. Any idead how to keep it propped up?
 

medidedicated

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Im thinking take a drill bit a little over 1/2” and drilling through a solid block of wood to sit perpendicular to the sprinkler riser going to the reservoir. I have a 1” drill bit, maybe thats wide enough to house the swing pipe as I think thats the widest point.
 

TCH

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I have more in the cart, I have more sprinkler risers and couplers to have the pvc bend onto the ground to be supported somehow then pvc coupler with an adaptor to turn into 1/2” tubing to run to the reservoir. Any idead how to keep it propped up?
If all your pvc is glued or screwed together, technically speaking, it should hold itself up. That said, you could make a little pvc Frame or wood frame to steady it up if you'd like. I believe LG used a piece of aluminum angle and added some feet to it. She posted pics of the underside of it somewhere. The manifolds aren't heavy or bulky at all so they should be able to be supported with minimal effort. Of course if you are stomping around in your tent or pulling stuff in and out a lot, you'll want to keep it from getting bumped around too much.
 

medidedicated

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I think that is what I am going to do, some how get pieces of wood to hold it secure, its hard to reach around in there but the 8 plants will help with that, I would only need to top a couple times and let them do their thing, maybe some defol and pruning if growing to bushy. Maybe tie some branches down.

The ease will come when I run the same strains back to back, will know how they grow and nutes etc. Then have a tester bean after another to make note of strains that make rosin and keep mothers and bonsai mothers for long term storage or just go back to get a bean and use the store as storage or buy it and store the bean.
 

Thundercat

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2 oz goal per plant, super easy to do and can almost guarentee a pound a harvest this way.
I'm not saying you can't get 2 oz per plant, but I really really wouldn't count on it.

I ran a SOG for over 10 years, and my highest yields were a little over 30g dried per plant. In my 4x4 flood tray I would fit 45 plants that size which is over 3lbs under 1k hps. I was very happy with those results, the buds were huge.

If you manage to double that it would be awesome, and more power to you. I'm just telling you I've never seen it done that I can remember. You might veg longer or train them differently then I did. Both can produce bigger plants and more yield per plant, but you also have to make sure you don't overcrowd the tent because that will reduce yields even with bigger plants. Also, more veg time means less harvests per year in a perpetual grow.
 

TCH

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I think that is what I am going to do, some how get pieces of wood to hold it secure, its hard to reach around in there but the 8 plants will help with that, I would only need to top a couple times and let them do their thing, maybe some defol and pruning if growing to bushy. Maybe tie some branches down.

The ease will come when I run the same strains back to back, will know how they grow and nutes etc. Then have a tester bean after another to make note of strains that make rosin and keep mothers and bonsai mothers for long term storage or just go back to get a bean and use the store as storage or buy it and store the bean.
Those conduit clamps may be a good option to use with wood. You can screw them Right to the wood and pinch the pvc down.
 

medidedicated

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I'm not saying you can't get 2 oz per plant, but I really really wouldn't count on it.

I ran a SOG for over 10 years, and my highest yields were a little over 30g dried per plant. In my 4x4 flood tray I would fit 45 plants that size which is over 3lbs under 1k hps. I was very happy with those results, the buds were huge.

If you manage to double that it would be awesome, and more power to you. I'm just telling you I've never seen it done that I can remember. You might veg longer or train them differently then I did. Both can produce bigger plants and more yield per plant, but you also have to make sure you don't overcrowd the tent because that will reduce yields even with bigger plants. Also, more veg time means less harvests per year in a perpetual grow.

I mean, as for over crowding I learned that lesson and loss a plant to mold ina 2x2 which has to of been 8oz but crowding made for low quality buds too but easily 4 oz in colas exposed to light. Then just recently harvested an oz per plant, one of which was in a 1x1 box.

Both soil so learning curve but managed to get that without trying. With coco I hear people get exaggerated yields which I saw in a 3 gallon plant in coco that I lost to mold, same plant I just mentioned. So I was just thinking 1-2 oz was easy to get in coco with my best skills applied.

I havent been growing long but I been seeing others grow and they get a lot of yield per plant. I thought 2 oz was an easy goal for 1.25 square foot but even 8 oz I would be happy for furst few runs. I plan to mother plants and bean hunt and look for strains that yield good as part of the things I am looking for.
 

medidedicated

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Oh and the 34g plant I harvested was grown with strip lights lol so I really didnt think I had my expectations to high but like I said 1 oz per plant is ok too if it makes rosin is all I care about at this point.
 

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medidedicated

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I read 1-2 oz per square foot is a goal for growers so I guess that makes sense but I seen people yield so much more. I dont meant to get carried away but then that means I did a spectacular job my last harvest aside from cannabalized leaves. I got almost 5 grams rosin from the strip light weed.

A little tricky thinking of how I cam going to structure each plant but just basically 8 of what I just posted, kept green with coco since its also easier to grow with. Depends on plant structure. At least more than half the time I grew with it so far. Top at 2 or 3 nodes, prune off suckers and defol as needed and flip, repeat.

I actually see people grow this way and this was actually suggested to me to be easier or better than 2 plants which I still think is right but dang. I didnt think I should expect an ounce or less per plant. Even with everything dialed in after strain hunting.
 
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medidedicated

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Heck I have an example I my own thread, page 4.

“Here are two plants grown in a tent a bit smaller than yours. 1 gallon pots. 12 ounces per plant. Fed 6 times per day. “

That is 3oz per square foot. I hope I can get it dialed in to get 2oz per 1.25 square foot at some point. I have a large variety of beans to look through to see which once are high rosin yielders and dry weight. Plants that spear out are preferred.

edit I just did more math to find I got 1.56 square foot per plant which is much more.
 

medidedicated

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Those conduit clamps may be a good option to use with wood. You can screw them Right to the wood and pinch the pvc down.
I just looked those up, yea those will do. Thanks! I was wondering what I was going to do. So with drain away trays with pvc, do they need to be sloped or will the waste just find its way to condensate pump? Maybe it just might puddle up and build up deposits after a while?
 

TCH

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I just looked those up, yea those will do. Thanks! I was wondering what I was going to do. So with drain away trays with pvc, do they need to be sloped or will the waste just find its way to condensate pump? Maybe it just might puddle up and build up deposits after a while?
If the trays are made to drain, they should have a low spot built.in. once you have trays in hand, you'll know I'd they need to be put on a slope.
 

medidedicated

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Im committed to my latest plan. Its an improvement, I really wouldnt know what to do with 2 plants in large space until I flower it once. But making little midgets are pretty easy.

Yield wont be aimed for until I find what makes rosin, then run those for a while and improve yield per run.

I am going to pop two diff beans that are 35% thc and pics were very frosty, I think those will end up doing it and then run tester beans to slowly figure out what all strains will do it.

Is that something you could do, if one bean yields rosin and not after phenos, I can just pop it again and get similar results right? Or should I clone the plant right away and keep in clone form?

I think I got more beans than needed then. Otherwise I was going to hunt through them all and have a crap show for a while until I decide to only keep like 4 strains?
 
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