CSI humboldt thread

DanKiller

DanKiller

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I have 7 CC and 4 TK S1 at early flower, day 7ish
Lanky lanky plants... 5 fingers on all of them
Support and less watering is a good method to keep them happy I found.
 
Ap3xNAz

Ap3xNAz

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Lights on… and then 2 hours before lights off.
I converted a cabinet in the garage which is basically 21” x 21” x 60”
I am a section in my garage walled off…and a stand alone AC in that area. Lights on im 75-78 F and 72-74% humidity
Lights off… I can only cool it down to 69-70F but drop the humidity down to about 60%
Using Xs1500 Pro.
Probably 2-3 week of veg depending on ones definition of when veg actually starts.
My enviroment is very small… and have found little changes have big affects… which is good and bad.
I have found that the light manufacture recommendations for settings and heights do not work in my box… im usually higher on height and lower on ppfd… or just always on the lower end of thr spectrum.
Im completely new at all of this and just trying to learn as I go.
 

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Ap3xNAz

Ap3xNAz

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Uprangewilly said:
How frequently are you watering?
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Its been a rough couple of days as I transplanted from a solo cup into a 3 gallon.
Long story … short i ended up having to take the root ball back out yesterday… breaking it up a little bit… and then drenching it. It just floated on top of the water until I poked it a couple times… bubble.. sucked up the water and sank.
Let it drain out for a minute… replanted it right before lights out yesterday.
I honestly didnt think she was gonna make it today and then all her leaves were sticking flat out and happy.
The rest of the soil is def moist but not wet.
Its like the root ball had become hydrophobic..

So back to your question: 3 gallon pot every other day…. 1200-1500 ML.

Pics before transplant and out of the solo cup
 

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Uprangewilly

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It’s likely just the shock from being through all that.

It looks great and should be fine in a few days.
I suggest continuing what your doing and let it do it’s thing.
Your doing great. Keep it up.
 
Ap3xNAz

Ap3xNAz

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Uprangewilly said:
It’s likely just the shock from being through all that.

It looks great and should be fine in a few days.
I suggest continuing what your doing and let it do it’s thing.
Your doing great. Keep it up.
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Appreciate that!
I started two more because I thght for sure this was a gonner.
I am only giving her about 350 ppfd right now to cut back on stress.
She will more than likely be ready for water tmrw.
 
Lurpin

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MannyPacs said:
It's weird because when I pop packs of S1s made with current "era" clones they are a lot closer than seeds made from supposed 20+ year old clones. Popping a pack of S1S and not finding anything even similar to the clone (doesn't have to be as good or better just share similarities with the mother) usually makes me think the issue is with a mislabeled mama and not selfed seeds
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This makes more sense to me because even though these breeders are just "smashing clones together" those clones were still selected for a reason. So even though one breeder might not be doing the work. Successive breeders are doing the work together more or less. CSI is about preservation and that is why I buy his seeds. You get more variation from older genetics because they are in fact not worked as far as all these newer strains which are all related to each other.
 
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burnout_worldwide said:
Five phenos of View attachment 5412873"Judgement Day" T-1000 x GDP week 7 of flower
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Quick rundown of each plant starting from the top left going clockwise. !st plant is the best producer, nice big buds on this one. Fan leaves started yellowing first, about 4 weeks into flower. 2nd plant is a little shrub with lots of little popcorn nugs, this has the most purple color out of the five. Trichome coverage average at best. 3rd plant is also a good producer, nice big buds, smells like rubber when pinched. 4th plant looks very different than her sisters, fat fan leaves, looks like more of the kush came through with her. Best trichomes out of the 5. 5th plant was a disappointment, was the largest plant in veg and didn't stretch much at all. Smell is similar to the big #1 plant but with no yellowing.
 
MannyPacs

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Lurpin said:
This makes more sense to me because even though these breeders are just "smashing clones together" those clones were still selected for a reason. So even though one breeder might not be doing the work. Successive breeders are doing the work together more or less. CSI is about preservation and that is why I buy his seeds. You get more variation from older genetics because they are in fact not worked as far as all these newer strains which are all related to each other.
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30 years ago if you selfed a good skunk clone the majority of the seeds would have smelled at least skunky. If you get a pack of "roadkill skunk s1" from copycat (or ANYONE else for that matter) today and don't find anything skunky it won't be because S1 variation, genetic drift, poor growing ability, because it's grown under LED instead of HPS or outside, or due to a lack of sulfur from acid rains. It will be because the plant that was selfed wasn't actually roadkill skunk. Copy (or whoever else is selling the roadkill skunk seeds) will tell you that you need to buy another couple packs to find one that actually smells like skunk when the reality is nobody actually has a real skunk cut anymore.

It's the same thing as those who bought the fake wedding cake s1s. You could go through 100 packs and not find anything like JB wedding cake because the seeds weren't in fact made with the wedding cake people were expecting.
 
dgarcad

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DanKiller said:
No one is doing the work, calling people that sell ununiformed (if that's even a word haha) seeds breeders is a good laugh for the old timers and hype for new growers
Breeding is results based, if the results are all over the place, and in some cases don't even resemble the parents, no breeding was done.
Not disrespecting Caleb, I've grown 2 plants from him so far that ended up bunk
I bought the TK S1 and 5150 x TK not long ago,
Giving CSI another chance, these are some high priced seeds.
I'm at day 4F on them, still a couple of months before sampling but I hope it will settle the debate if to plant my other packs from him or just move them on.
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S1s are known to produce a lot variation. Are you popping full packs?
 
Ap3xNAz

Ap3xNAz

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Uprange…
I turned my light way down… and slowly increased it through the week… finally back to about 400 Ppfd… light is now 50% and 18.5” away.
She is doing a lot better….. but when she decides its time to sleep…. she crashes and goes limp.
When the lights come back on… she is alert.
I think I need to top her but also trying to give her time to get back on her feet.
She is just getting spring water and FPE.
 

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conor c

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Week4@inCharge said:
Crap...have a few S1 packs.. sigh.. good to know!
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They will show plenty of variation but how much variation depends on the genetics the more inbred/pure something is the more close it should be to the parent in theory but it don't always work out that way especially if something has a wide genetic pool or if it segregates then it will be all over the show and be nothing like the parent/parents a s1 is kinda like a f2 in regular seeds in this regard
 
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DOCTORDOOB

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silverhazefiend said:
I been saying this for like 3 years bro I grew og from bought seeds and bag seeds and it is not the same but once u say it might be a issue with the moms

All the fanboys come out and tell u about how long someone has been in the game and how long they been holding clones blah blah blah .. I think it goes really deep like cuts like Indiana bubblegum been lost and since 2000s that cut dubbed IBG and passed around is nothing like the orginal bc I haven’t gottten anything close to pink bubblegum ever just kinda sweet berry and it’s mids
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Bubblegum to me was ALWAYS mids
And the only time it seemed to ever really smell or taste like bubblegum was if the plant was grown outdoors..
But in Cali in the 90s we would pass if someone tried to sell you some bubblegum
I think it was really only a big thing to them boys in Indiana, to them that was the fire hahaha
 
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