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[OldMedUser]

That's an easy one, though I'm going to get there in a roundabout way. The framers, through the use of the electoral college (see Federalist Paper #6 separated the office from direct election didn't put into the constitution limitations on things like being a criminal.

Of course, there are arguments to be made whether there should be a stop gap by what would have been white "learned" men superimposing their will on the voters. Anyway the EC is now a symbolic process.

That's how being a felon isn't a disqualification. I'm sure somebody could add to that.

From what I gather in many or most states a felon can vote once his sentence is served and off parole making him/her a free man/woman again.

There should be rules like if indited for a felony a person shouldn't be allowed to run for high office until their case is concluded and if convicted then barred from running until sentence is fully served and once again free.

Politics used to have integrity where someone like tRump wouldn't even think of running for any higher office than small town sheriff or dogcatcher. tRump has tossed all that out and his devotees are willing to overlook those personality flaws as a great many of them possess the same 'qualities'.

I'm just glad I get to watch it all from across the border. For me anything done down there will have minimal or zero effect on me personally.

 

[BarnBuster]

FWIW, I'm not complaining. My IRA's were up an unbelievable 4.3% just for yesterday.

 

[OldMedUser]

Good luck . WTF happened? Not in my wildest dreams could you all have found your way to this place after everything “they” said! Clinched my not getting a pardon as I have no desire to visit south of the border .
PS I do miss Cracker Barrel though

We get Cracker Barrel here in Alberta. I prefer Armstrong aged cheddar myself. Ever had that MacLaren's Imperial cheddar in the red tub and black rim? Concentrated old cheddar I just rake out with a fork over a sandwich etc. Very little gives a strong cheddar flavour better than oily regular cheddar. A 230g tub lasts me past the best before date most times. Cuts way back on amount of saturated fat consumed for those that watch that stuff. Slices of cheese fried up crispy like bacon makes a fine garnish as well.

I got a pardon when I went back to school in '87 but got an impaired after that still on the books. I told them if they asked but never got refused entry in the 90s, Was '94 when I got my license back. We lived 3 miles from a crossing so went across once or twice a week for cheap gas and dairy. Now I guess I'd need to get a passport to go south but I haven't tried to go across since we moved north in Feb. '01. Thinking of getting a passport as I'd still like to go to Scotland one of these days. On my bucket list.

 

[Budley Doright]

We get Cracker Barrel here in Alberta. I prefer Armstrong aged cheddar myself. Ever had that MacLaren's Imperial cheddar in the red tub and black rim? Concentrated old cheddar I just rake out with a fork over a sandwich etc. Very little gives a strong cheddar flavour better than oily regular cheddar. A 230g tub lasts me past the best before date most times. Cuts way back on amount of saturated fat consumed for those that watch that stuff. Slices of cheese fried up crispy like bacon makes a fine garnish as well.

I got a pardon when I went back to school in '87 but got an impaired after that still on the books. I told them if they asked but never got refused entry in the 90s, Was '94 when I got my license back. We lived 3 miles from a crossing so went across once or twice a week for cheap gas and dairy. Now I guess I'd need to get a passport to go south but I haven't tried to go across since we moved north in Feb. '01. Thinking of getting a passport as I'd still like to go to Scotland one of these days. On my bucket list.

The restaurant, not the cheese lol. And I’ve never tried to go across legally since booted but may have visited a few times, it’s a short boat ride .

 

[OldMedUser]

Kind of funny how Trump hasn't even taken office yet but he's already done more than Biden did in 4 years. Shit is getting done and it's already happening. Light speed.

Citations please.

Your posts all seem to just be the same blatant lies tRump spews out as his talking points without any attempt to substantiate their validity at all.

I'd be more interested in finding out if you have any original opinions or are only capable of regurgitating the same old tired untruths.

 

[BarnBuster]

It can ALWAYS be worse

A Bill to Repeal the 22nd Amendment - DebateUS

This bill calls for repealing the 22nd amendment in order to let Presidents serve more than two teams, something that has been suggested by Donald Trump. Since this limit is now established in an amendment, such a change would require amending the constitution. There were not, however, always...

debateus.org

 

[MintyDreadlocks]

Citations please.

Your posts all seem to just be the same blatant lies tRump spews out as his talking points without any attempt to substantiate their validity at all.

I'd be more interested in finding out if you have any original opinions or are only capable of regurgitating the same old tired untruths.

To many opinions and to much to spee in a thread. I don't need to prove to others what I already set my mind on.

Fact: China owns and is continuing to buy farmland in the USA under the current administration

Fact: Trump along with the RFK team is working to end selling our land to the Chinese and forbid them from controlling our food.

FACT: Since the 1990s when food became heavily processed our life expectancy dropped and our obesity is high. Trump along with RFK sin to control and regulate food more heavily and taking after our European allies.

FACT: every world leader at this very moment is trying to get in Trumps back pocket. He is a master negotiator and manipulator and will get the deals and negotiations we need with our allies and even our 'enemies' to prosper.

FACT: the stock market grew over night after the election was announced.

FACT: cheaper energy costs means cheaper costs all around the board for everyone. Energy is the top contributing factor when it comes to prices. Those trucks hauling all your food? Energy. The cargo ships hauling all of your Amazon crap? Energy. Your farm equipment harvesting crops? Energy. It's more than just cheaper gas prices folks.

Those are just some quick tid bits. Those tariffs from Mexico on there electric vehicles don't even matter when you don't even have the infrastructure to support a shift like this yet. Not to mention that lithium mining is not better than drilling for oil. Let's get back to reality and start cutting costs. If it isn't broken don't try to fix it. At least until the infrastructure exists to support change.

 

[Billy the Mountain]

 

[Gemtree]

I'm an old white male so a lot of what is about to take place (Project 2025) won't adversely effect me much, however women, immigrants, the environment, & the Constitution won't be so lucky. America deserves what's coming.....we're dumb as fuck.

Yup glad I only had one white male kid. With my health I'll probably die of listeria or whatever once we don't have an FDA

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

Yes it does. It sucks worse when it's for a victimless non crime (growing in a rec legal state) and you're convicted of helping people- people with cancer, FFS.

It pretty much ruins your faith in justice and your trust in government, nevermind law "enforcement."

America has been a Fascist State for a lot longer than we frogs in the boiling pot realize.

I am so discouraged in our system. It’s like they are working together. The people need to rise and create a new system. This one is completely broken now. That was the message I got from Kamala speech about dark days ahead and bright stars in the sky as your hope. Was that an Occupy Mars moment? I just found out my little sister has turned into a Trump Prepper.

 

[Nugnewbie]

To many opinions and to much to spee in a thread. I don't need to prove to others what I already set my mind on.

Fact: China owns and is continuing to buy farmland in the USA under the current administration

Fact: Trump along with the RFK team is working to end selling our land to the Chinese and forbid them from controlling our food.

FACT: Since the 1990s when food became heavily processed our life expectancy dropped and our obesity is high. Trump along with RFK sin to control and regulate food more heavily and taking after our European allies.

FACT: every world leader at this very moment is trying to get in Trumps back pocket. He is a master negotiator and manipulator and will get the deals and negotiations we need with our allies and even our 'enemies' to prosper.

FACT: the stock market grew over night after the election was announced.

FACT: cheaper energy costs means cheaper costs all around the board for everyone. Energy is the top contributing factor when it comes to prices. Those trucks hauling all your food? Energy. The cargo ships hauling all of your Amazon crap? Energy. Your farm equipment harvesting crops? Energy. It's more than just cheaper gas prices folks.

Those are just some quick tid bits. Those tariffs from Mexico on there electric vehicles don't even matter when you don't even have the infrastructure to support a shift like this yet. Not to mention that lithium mining is not better than drilling for oil. Let's get back to reality and start cutting costs. If it isn't broken don't try to fix it. At least until the infrastructure exists to support change.

I think what Oldmeduser is getting at is you can cite these "facts", but if you don't cite some reliable news source as to where that "fact" comes from, it's meaningless. We can all strut out whatever idea under the sun as facts. Dump does it all the time, so does RFK jr.

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

Shout out to the lovely ladies on here.
How do you feel about the results and can you give a sister some helpful advice dealing with the next 4 years.
@curious2garden and @sunni
Love you and all you do for this community!

 

[Offmymeds]

To many opinions and to much to spee in a thread. I don't need to prove to others what I already set my mind on.

Fact: China owns and is continuing to buy farmland in the USA under the current administration

Fact: Trump along with the RFK team is working to end selling our land to the Chinese and forbid them from controlling our food.

FACT: Since the 1990s when food became heavily processed our life expectancy dropped and our obesity is high. Trump along with RFK sin to control and regulate food more heavily and taking after our European allies.

FACT: every world leader at this very moment is trying to get in Trumps back pocket. He is a master negotiator and manipulator and will get the deals and negotiations we need with our allies and even our 'enemies' to prosper.

FACT: the stock market grew over night after the election was announced.

FACT: cheaper energy costs means cheaper costs all around the board for everyone. Energy is the top contributing factor when it comes to prices. Those trucks hauling all your food? Energy. The cargo ships hauling all of your Amazon crap? Energy. Your farm equipment harvesting crops? Energy. It's more than just cheaper gas prices folks.

Those are just some quick tid bits. Those tariffs from Mexico on there electric vehicles don't even matter when you don't even have the infrastructure to support a shift like this yet. Not to mention that lithium mining is not better than drilling for oil. Let's get back to reality and start cutting costs. If it isn't broken don't try to fix it. At least until the infrastructure exists to support change.

All I can say is wow. Master negotiator? More food regulations while announcing fewer regulations? Transportation? Trump literally thought transportation meant Amazon delivery services. Those int'l cargo ships have been protected by the US Navy and we have no incentive to provide that protection now so I expect higher costs, especially with wars around the world. Every leader around the world knows Trump well. He's a textbook malignant narcissist and our enemies are using that to their best advantage. There is no upside for our allies. Too bad Trump can't actually pick up a phone and end wars the way he says he can. Don't understand why he didn't do that in his first term. Facts 1 and 2 are the same and I doubt Trump understands or has thought of all of the consequences of the land deals. I don't know either, nor care at this moment. We will run the risks of higher inflation with tariffs just as inflation has gotten under control. We are headed for a very dark period.

 

[BudmanTX]

welp the first 24hrs are up, and no stop to the Ukrainian war.......go figure.......

 

[sunni]

Shout out to the lovely ladies on here.
How do you feel about the results and can you give a sister some helpful advice dealing with the next 4 years.
@curious2garden and @sunni
Love you and all you do for this community!

We don't share our political opinions because they can be used against us while moderating. Since some people don't understand that we enforce the TOS, not personal political views, we avoid getting involved in those discussions.

By the way, not sure if you remember, but I'm Canadian.

 

[MintyDreadlocks]

Trump already said he isn't following Project 2025...

We don't share our political opinions because they can be used against us while moderating. Since some people don't understand that we enforce the TOS, not personal political views, we avoid getting involved in those discussions.

By the way, not sure if you remember, but I'm Canadian.

And therefore we can assume they are pro trump since Canada loves there alliance with Trump and like working with him. And considering they're Canadian they don't have a say in our politics anyway.

 

[sunni]

Trump already said he isn't following Project 2025...


And therefore we can assume they are pro trump since Canada loves there alliance with Trump and like working with him. And considering they're Canadian they don't have a say in our politics anyway.

wow ,you sure know nothing about canada however

if you dont stop what youve been doing im removing you from the site.
you have been following people around gloating, antagonizing people etc.
Or keep it up up to you

Just because i am canadian doesnt mean i live in canada.

 

[Billy the Mountain]

Trump already said he isn't following Project 2025...


And therefore we can assume they are pro trump since Canada loves there alliance with Trump and like working with him. And considering they're Canadian they don't have a say in our politics anyway.

That's a ludicrous assumption and not based on reality.

Canadians despise Trump at higher percentages than in the U.S.
Canadian preference for Harris was 3x that of Trump in the last election.
Facts matter.

The Globe and Mail

October 14, 2024

The majority of Canadians prefer Kamala Harris over Donald Trump in the U.S. election, but support for the former Republican president has increased here, especially among young men, according to a new poll.
The research, conducted by the Environics Institute in Toronto, also found that more Conservative Party voters prefer Mr. Trump than during the last U.S. presidential campaign, in 2020.
The Environics Institute research found Canadians three times more likely to prefer Democratic nominee and current Vice-President Kamala Harris to win the Nov. 5 presidential election over Mr. Trump – 60 per cent to 21 per cent. But Mr. Trump’s total has risen from similar research conducted in 2020, when he had 15-per-cent support among Canadians surveyed compared with 67 per cent for the eventual winner, President Joe Biden.

 

[curious2garden]

.....snip......... can you give a sister some helpful advice dealing with the next 4 years.
@curious2garden and @sunni
Love you and all you do for this community!

Thank you for your kind words. My suggestion for the next four years and hopefully the rest of your life is balance. During times of change the best thing to do is make sure you get plenty of exercise and get outside away from all the noise we live in as a society.

I see you already doing that Amber in your bike rides and hikes, re-centering yourself in nature. That's the best thing we can all do. Then we can make sure we don't react to boogeymen and rumors of rumors. Just focus on making the day ahead of you the best day you can for yourself, your patients and your community members.

 

[FullScaleDeflection]

People have been crying and screaming
But not privately they are recording themselves and then posting it on YouTube does anybody know why this is happening?