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The UK Growers Thread!

Star Dog

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I should've said I've seen yellowing on some and not others with my bubble cloner and coco which has nutrient.

I started with tap water in my bubble cloner for the simplicity it had worked well for others, not having to adjust ph or ec at any point was appealing, small volumes of nutrient aren't too stable.

That said it stands to reason nutrient should be helpful to aide rooting, I suspect the leafs are yellowing because the nutrient is getting used up, idk why some might be worse than others for yellowing it could be strain related?
Maybe those excessive one would benefit from nutrient?
Water is advantageous in that it's hassle free for us but idk about being beneficial to the plants rooting?
 

Nutty sKunK

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I should've said I've seen yellowing on some and not others with my bubble cloner and coco which has nutrient.

I started with tap water in my bubble cloner for the simplicity it had worked well for others, not having to adjust ph or ec at any point was appealing, small volumes of nutrient aren't too stable.

That said it stands to reason nutrient should be helpful to aide rooting, I suspect the leafs are yellowing because the nutrient is getting used up, idk why some might be worse than others for yellowing it could be strain related?
Maybe those excessive one would benefit from nutrient?
Water is advantageous in that it's hassle free for us but idk about being beneficial to the plants rooting?
Aye could be strain related for sure! They haven’t all yellowed uniformly for me.

Will see next time if some nutrients make any difference.

I have used formulex before with good results at seedling stage in coco when I first grew weed. I think they have a recommended dosage for clones…
 

futurebanjo

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They know bud but your correct actual hash they have less history with it sure they got it but I don't think it was the main supply like it was here traditionally Europe has always preferred hash wasn't till home growing took off that the gap closed as far as bud is concerned they always were ahead but now id say it's less of a gap for sure plus most Americans would agree the best stuff in the USA doesn't even come from Cali also can't write Canada off I've had some pretty killer stuff from there too
I think it's mostly due to (before home growing or even commercial growing in the UK got popular) it was mostly cheaper hash, soap bar, etc, commin up from north Africa/Morocco.

Likewise, In the USA it was 'lower grade' weed comming up from Mexico and south america.
 

Liamp1603

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Depends who you know / where you are there was good Moroccan and other stuff too just sadly soap bar existed on mass as well that's one relic I'm glad is gone
until around 2014 that's all we could get was hash and it had bits of plastic , bits of rubber all sorts in it some smelt like petrol or diesel from where it would be smuggled inside tanks we just used to cook some fags cook the hash make a big mix and smoke bongs with it all day long .... smoked my first skunk joint went green then
 

conor c

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until around 2014 that's all we could get was hash and it had bits of plastic , bits of rubber all sorts in it some smelt like petrol or diesel from where it would be smuggled inside tanks we just used to cook some fags cook the hash make a big mix and smoke bongs with it all day long .... smoked my first skunk joint went green then
See first bud I saw was import then the whole homegrown thing took off we sometimes saw stuff from Africa or the Carribbean or if yer real lucky Thai that in reality was probably Laotian according to Angus so yeah then everything dropped off cos home grown took off which is a blessing but I do miss the good import hash and bud we can't replicate stuff from source you can do a good job at home sure but will never be the same as from source this is the problem with illegality soap bar should never have existed god I miss the days when "exotic" actually meant something truly unique not some rehashed gelato crosses lol
 

Fish scale

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Me being stupid because I haven't grown weed for a good couple of years, I have been underfeeding my plants and I forgot the run off EC needs to be slightly higher than the inflow EC and I've been letting the run off EC come out the same as the inflow and I've been severely underfeeding my plants but I have fixed the issue now lol they were extremely underfed. I almost killed them they were that underfed lol
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Star Dog

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Me being stupid because I haven't grown weed for a good couple of years, I have been underfeeding my plants and I forgot the run off EC needs to be slightly higher than the inflow EC and I've been letting the run off EC come out the same as the inflow and I've been severely underfeeding my plants but I have fixed the issue now lol they were extremely underfed. I almost killed them they were that underfed lol
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Run off is normally a bit higher yes but it's not obligatory, like its not a must for good plant health, ime equal in/out would indicate there's a good balance of water and nutrients being used?

The reason ec rises is water evaporating from your canopy and increasing the concentration of nutrient in the root ball.
A hungry plant using more minerals depletes the nutrient in root ball lowering the run off ec.

Have a nice weekend everyone
 

Fish scale

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Run off is normally a bit higher yes but it's not obligatory, like its not a must for good plant health, ime equal in/out would indicate there's a good balance of water and nutrients being used?

The reason ec rises is water evaporating from your canopy and increasing the concentration of nutrient in the root ball.
A hungry plant using more minerals depletes the nutrient in root ball lowering the run off ec.

Have a nice weekend everyone
To be honest I was feeding @ 0.8 EC for about 2 weeks and the run off EC was coming out the same as it was going in all the time and I could see the plants becoming more and more yellow even though the EC was coming out the same and the plants were starting to die and they were becoming yellow even though the run off EC was equal to the inflow and I knew by looking at the plants that they were about to die so I have upped the feed to 0.9 EC now and they are starting to recover. The EC is coming out the same as the inflow still but I think I need to look at the plants more instead of relying on the EC pen to tell me what's going on. And cheers mate, I hope you have a great weekend too :bigjoint:bongsmilie
 
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RobbieP

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See first bud I saw was import then the whole homegrown thing took off we sometimes saw stuff from Africa or the Carribbean or if yer real lucky Thai that in reality was probably Laotian according to Angus so yeah then everything dropped off cos home grown took off which is a blessing but I do miss the good import hash and bud we can't replicate stuff from source you can do a good job at home sure but will never be the same as from source this is the problem with illegality soap bar should never have existed god I miss the days when "exotic" actually meant something truly unique not some rehashed gelato crosses lol
I still get quality hash imported , soft , squidgy , bubble when flicked with a lighter ... hit me up if you fancy some man ..
I get imported cali weed aswell its cheap as fuck man like 150 a zip , can get like bars for 900...

Imo american weed is no different to anywhere else , same genetics , equipment etc just the fact americans like to show off with a big customer base and like to be loud so obviously there stuff is the best lol ....
 

Fish scale

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I still get quality hash imported , soft , squidgy , bubble when flicked with a lighter ... hit me up if you fancy some man ..
I get imported cali weed aswell its cheap as fuck man like 150 a zip , can get like bars for 900...

Imo american weed is no different to anywhere else , same genetics , equipment etc just the fact americans like to show off with a big customer base and like to be loud so obviously there stuff is the best lol ....
Can you get sealed verified legit jungle boys packs and sealed cookies packs for 150 a zip? Because I'm paying £70 for 3.5 grams for sealed legit jungle boys cali packs or £500 on the ounce imported from California off the dark web so it would be great if you could get it for 150 on a zip. or are you talking about star dawg for 150 a zip? There's just no way you can get cali weed cookies weed or jungle boys weed imported for £150 on the zip. They charge 50 dollars on the 3.5 in the jungle boys stores so there's no way you can get that sort of weed imported for £150 a zip?

Also, american weed isn't the same genetics as UK genetics. It's totally different genetics with totally different names, they do use the same equipment though. It's just controlled more Professionally when it comes to the VPD and the environment when compared to the average UK home grower and they do use a lot better genetics. That's why you have to pay a lot more for the seeds. It's designer weed. But It doesn't mean you can't produce cali grade in the UK though. You just need the right genetics and the best environment for your plants and you need the right phenotypes.

I'm not trying to take a dig at you or anything but I doubt the stuff you are getting for 150 a zip is imported from California. It's just cali grade stuff that was grown in the UK. It's probably Albanian star dawg. Most people don't want to spend £500 a pack on the latest cali weed seeds. Most peoples budget is £10 a seed or less. What you need to realize is that people like me don't mind spending £1,000 on a pack of the best cali seeds in the world. Because we have got customers lined up that don't mind paying £100 on the 3.5 but most people don't like spending more than £25 on the 3.5. There's just no way you can get it imported for 150 a zip. And people who spend thousands on a rare pack of cali seeds or get it imported from california aren't going to let a 3.5 go for £25, they have to Recoup there money back off the seeds they spent £1,000 on or the risk that it takes getting it here from California and the price it costs in California. There's a lot of star dawg going around for 150 a zip though if that's what you are talking about?


Anyway, here's a picture of some real Cali weed that I grew out, these seeds cost me $450 for 12 seeds and there's no way in hell I would sell a zip for £150, I would have to sell 3 ounces just to recoup my money off the seeds I bought if I sold it for 150 a zip and most of these cali grows I do are lucky to yield 20 ounces of dried bud. The yeilds are a lot lower compared to most strains. I wouldn't even break even on the amount of money I have spent on the equipment and the electric and the labour I have put into this grow if I sold it for that price. A lot of these cali strains are very difficult to grow too, they are very challenging to grow. You even get retarded plants and retarded growth. I can show you how retarded some of them grow. and a lot of them look very inbred, you have to go through a lot of inbred seeds and a lot of hermie plants which ends up costing a lot of money to find a keeper. Growing cali weed doesn't appease most growers, but everyones claiming they have got it for a cheap price.


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conor c

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I still get quality hash imported , soft , squidgy , bubble when flicked with a lighter ... hit me up if you fancy some man ..
I get imported cali weed aswell its cheap as fuck man like 150 a zip , can get like bars for 900...

Imo american weed is no different to anywhere else , same genetics , equipment etc just the fact americans like to show off with a big customer base and like to be loud so obviously there stuff is the best lol ....
No bad man I ain't seen any import hash in ages up here
 

Liamp1603

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Can you get sealed verified legit jungle boys packs and sealed cookies packs for 150 a zip? Because I'm paying £70 for 3.5 grams for sealed legit jungle boys cali packs or £500 on the ounce imported from California off the dark web so it would be great if you could get it for 150 on a zip. or are you talking about star dawg for 150 a zip? There's just no way you can get cali weed cookies weed or jungle boys weed imported for £150 on the zip. They charge 50 dollars on the 3.5 in the jungle boys stores so there's no way you can get that sort of weed imported for £150 a zip?

Also, american weed isn't the same genetics as UK genetics. It's totally different genetics with totally different names, they do use the same equipment though. It's just controlled more Professionally when it comes to the VPD and the environment when compared to the average UK home grower and they do use a lot better genetics. That's why you have to pay a lot more for the seeds. It's designer weed. But It doesn't mean you can't produce cali grade in the UK though. You just need the right genetics and the best environment for your plants and you need the right phenotypes.

I'm not trying to take a dig at you or anything but I doubt the stuff you are getting for 150 a zip is imported from California. It's just cali grade stuff that was grown in the UK. It's probably Albanian star dawg. Most people don't want to spend £500 a pack on the latest cali weed seeds. Most peoples budget is £10 a seed or less. What you need to realize is that people like me don't mind spending £1,000 on a pack of the best cali seeds in the world. Because we have got customers lined up that don't mind paying £100 on the 3.5 but most people don't like spending more than £25 on the 3.5. There's just no way you can get it imported for 150 a zip. And people who spend thousands on a rare pack of cali seeds or get it imported from california aren't going to let a 3.5 go for £25, they have to Recoup there money back off the seeds they spent £1,000 on or the risk that it takes getting it here from California and the price it costs in California. There's a lot of star dawg going around for 150 a zip though if that's what you are talking about?


Anyway, here's a picture of some real Cali weed that I grew out, these seeds cost me $450 for 12 seeds and there's no way in hell I would sell a zip for £150, I would have to sell 3 ounces just to recoup my money off the seeds I bought if I sold it for 150 a zip and most of these cali grows I do are lucky to yield 20 ounces of dried bud. The yeilds are a lot lower compared to most strains. I wouldn't even break even on the amount of money I have spent on the equipment and the electric and the labour I have put into this grow if I sold it for that price. A lot of these cali strains are very difficult to grow too, they are very challenging to grow. You even get retarded plants and retarded growth. I can show you how retarded some of them grow. and a lot of them look very inbred, you have to go through a lot of inbred seeds and a lot of hermie plants which ends up costing a lot of money to find a keeper. Growing cali weed doesn't appease most growers, but everyones claiming they have got it for a cheap price.


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Only problem I got with them Cali seeds is that you got a male x female cross that the pack .... . and you got fem seeds ? I wouldn't beleive the cookies machine you can get a lot better USA genetics than them if you shop about csi Humboldt , freeborn natural selections are two real Cali growers and breeders ...
 

go go kid

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ive got no problems with imported hash, its like conner says, its who you know, i can get tinned cali weed too. thats quality weed from cali. but the good, well grown british weed is just as good, no need to be paying rediculous prices for tins imo. sorry i cant get it for you, but you've had an offer you should look into.
 

conor c

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ive got no problems with imported hash, its like conner says, its who you know, i can get tinned cali weed too. thats quality weed from cali. but the good, well grown british weed is just as good, no need to be paying rediculous prices for tins imo. sorry i cant get it for you, but you've had an offer you should look into.
Ironically alot of Americans Ime slag off Cali weed like they used to slate BC beaster buds like we do the Albanian growers here or like the Chinese/Vietnamese dudes who were at it big time years back they see it as mass produced dross for the most part seems to be sure there will be great stuff but will be with the older folks more than anything I would bet I think 80% of stuff that comes here is because it wouldn't pass tests in there state/states near them
 

conor c

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Only problem I got with them Cali seeds is that you got a male x female cross that the pack .... . and you got fem seeds ? I wouldn't beleive the cookies machine you can get a lot better USA genetics than them if you shop about csi Humboldt , freeborn natural selections are two real Cali growers and breeders ...
Yeah they two would be what they refer to as legacy growers/breeders they ain't just hype merchants
 
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