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SenorSanteria

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Senor
Once again, your help is most appreciated. One of my plants has finally poked up and cot's are extended :D. Still waiting for the other, but I have high hopes.

I google searched the Lucas method and it came back with this from grasscity. It is basically a method of using the GH Flora "Grow, Micro, Bloom" series, but you do not use the "Grow" part. I've copied the instructions below, sorry for the length, but it does give details.

Lucas Formula


General Hydroponics Flora Series Feeding Strategy - Lucas Formula

G-M-B (Grow-Micro-Bloom)
0-5-10 - For Vegetative cycle (18/6)
0-8-16 - For Flowering cycle (12/12)

The numbers above indicate the number of milliliters (ml) of Flora Grow, Micro or Bloom formulas that I use in one gallon (US Liquid) of nutrients.

You will notice I dont use any of the Flora “Grow” formula, do not need to, the Flora "Micro" provides plenty of Nitrogen.

There are two ways to work with this formula:

1. Top off the reservoir daily using a pH corrected water solution as required to maintain full reservoir level. After adding back an amount of water equal to the amount of your reservoir capacity you should change the reservoir and put in fresh solution.

2. Top off the reservoir daily using a pH corrected 100% strength nutrient solution as required to maintain full reservoir level. Continue to use this nutrient solution without dumping the tank unless the PPM rises above acceptable levels.

Between vegetative and flowering cycles you should dump your nutrients, then flush (possibly with Clearex) to remove salt buildups, then change to the other feeding program. Always shake your GH nutrient bottles before using them!

For young plants, just transplanted into the hydro setup, give them 50% strength nutrient mix to prevent overfeeding them while their young. Gradually bring up the mix to full strength as they grow over the next few weeks or so.

The lucas formula is normally intended for use with RO or near 0 PPM water.

NOTE: The Lucas formula eliminates the need for Epsom salts to correct (Magnesium) Mg deficiencies in most normal feeding programs recommended by manufacturers. Cannabis needs a lot of Magnesium to thrive.

The Flora Micro is providing the Nitrogen and the Magnesium in the proper balance, thus there is no need for the Grow formula and little or no room under the maximum acceptable ppm limit of 1600 @ 0.7 conversion.

Calculated EC/TDS levels:

EC microsiemen:
0-4-8: 946 µS
0-5-10: 1184 µS
0-8-16: 1894 µS

TDS @ 0.5 conversion:
0-4-8 = 473 ppm
0-5-10 = 592 ppm
0-8-16 = 947 ppm

TDS @ 0.7 conversion:
0-4-8 = 663 ppm
0-5-10 = 829 ppm
0-8-16 = 1326 ppm

Addback Calculator - (For Advanced Users)

Say you were running the 0-8-16 formula, at 0.7 conversion with a 22 gallon res. When you first fill it up, your ppm will be around 1330.

Now you have been growing for a week, and some of the water has been taken up by the plants, some has evaporated, and now your res is at 947 ppm. You need to get your ppm from 947 to 1330. Here is the equation:

((target - current) / target) * 8 ml per gallon * res gallons = Flora Micro (ml) double this figure to get Flora Bloom (ml)

Example:

((1330 - 947) / 1330) * 8 * 22
(383 / 1330) * 8 * 22
0.3 * 8 * 22 = 53 ml Flora Micro

53 ml Flora Micro, double that and you get 106 ml Flora Bloom. So 53 ml Flora Micro and 106 ml Flora Bloom to add back to your 22 gallon res to get you from 947 to 1330.
If you understand that- go for it. My approach to nutes is a little less scientific. I use grow nutes for veg (20-20-20) and Bloom nutes for flower (10-15-10). I use them at the recommended strength on the bottle, and add the nutes to my water. Because I'm a soil grower, i dont have a resevoir to measure or calculate.
 

comptown

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If you understand that- go for it. My approach to nutes is a little less scientific. I use grow nutes for veg (20-20-20) and Bloom nutes for flower (10-15-10). I use them at the recommended strength on the bottle, and add the nutes to my water. Because I'm a soil grower, i dont have a resevoir to measure or calculate.
I think I understand the fundamentals, but I may be getting ahead of myself. I'd probably be better off just doing it the easy way, for now. Thanks again for all your help. I started a grow journal w pics. Love to get your feedback as they progress.
 

SenorSanteria

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i got a minor spider mite infestion ...just got clones 3 weeks ago still vegging how do i get rid em i lowered temp to 65 sprayed bottom leaves w cold water ne othwer ideas
Missed this one. Sorry. Most people use neem oil to start. Depending how bad your infestation is, you may need to use more than one method to eradicate them completely. Neem oil is safe to use on your plants, and is the only method I know of, but I know there are several options. Search "spider mites" and you should come up with a few of them. I've never dealt with spider mites (and I hope to never have to), so my knowledge on the subject is limited.
 

Chocolateak47

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hey this is my first real grow and right now i have 3 sprouts and im looking into stronger lights because i only have CFLs. i was just wondering is it ABSOLUTELY required that you have a ballast for HPS lights


i have no problem spending $20 on a bulb but its the $200 on a ballast for the bulb that kills me.

or does anyone know where to get CHEAP ballasts. :-(
 

ICKEY420

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i need some help i have to cfl lights at 40 watts each which on the box it states 2650 lumens on a power strip and i have it set up in a rubbermaid grow box i order some snow white seeds and i was looking to find what is the best soil and nutes i can get so i can be ready when my seeds arrive.
 

SenorSanteria

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hey this is my first real grow and right now i have 3 sprouts and im looking into stronger lights because i only have CFLs. i was just wondering is it ABSOLUTELY required that you have a ballast for HPS lights
i have no problem spending $20 on a bulb but its the $200 on a ballast for the bulb that kills me.

or does anyone know where to get CHEAP ballasts. :-(
Yessir, a ballast is required for HPS lighting. Heck, it IS the HPS lighting. Cheap setups can be found on ebay- search "high bay lighting" and "low bay lighting." These are both usually metal halide or HPS and can be had very cheap.

Where are my car keys?
Probably in the sofa, or not far from your last bong hit. :weed:

i need some help i have to cfl lights at 40 watts each which on the box it states 2650 lumens on a power strip and i have it set up in a rubbermaid grow box i order some snow white seeds and i was looking to find what is the best soil and nutes i can get so i can be ready when my seeds arrive.
You'll need about 6 of those CFL's per plant. For soil and nutes, I would recommend reading the GrowFAQ (top left on the page), it explains everything way better than I could.
 

lolzor69

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hey i asked you yesterday about my male plant thats began flowering, you said to kill it if i have other plants well its my only plant as i am only just beggining to grow, even though its a male will it still produce a decent bud?
how much longer do you think untill it starts to bud? its roughly 16 weeks old and is being grown outside.
thanks
 

pennywise619

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I am not a newbee, but wanted to know if using a green led light will affect the night period? I have always used green incandescents.
 

SenorSanteria

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hey i asked you yesterday about my male plant thats began flowering, you said to kill it if i have other plants well its my only plant as i am only just beggining to grow, even though its a male will it still produce a decent bud?
how much longer do you think untill it starts to bud? its roughly 16 weeks old and is being grown outside.
thanks
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a male plant does not produce bud. For our purposes, it is basically useless. You need to grow females if you want bud. I kill all my males. Sorry bro.

I am not a newbee, but wanted to know if using a green led light will affect the night period? I have always used green incandescents.
From everything ive read, and in my experience, green light doesnt affect the plants light period. Ive never had an issue using them, but I try to do most of my gardening when the lights are on.
 

bluetick

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I can't seem to find an answer to this. I have a friend who is growing 9 plants. They started under 24/0 for one month and then turned back to 18/6. On two of his plants at @ the sixth node and up they are showing pre-flowers. This is not a lowryder or auto-flowering strain. Why is this and what does it mean?? One person said it might be a sign of hermie but what would cause this?? Thanks. Glad I found your thread. I was unable to answer his question for him.
 

pennywise619

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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a male plant does not produce bud. For our purposes, it is basically useless. You need to grow females if you want bud. I kill all my males. Sorry bro.



From everything ive read, and in my experience, green light doesnt affect the plants light period. Ive never had an issue using them, but I try to do most of my gardening when the lights are on.
I understand, but what about green leds?
 

SenorSanteria

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I can't seem to find an answer to this. I have a friend who is growing 9 plants. They started under 24/0 for one month and then turned back to 18/6. On two of his plants at @ the sixth node and up they are showing pre-flowers. This is not a lowryder or auto-flowering strain. Why is this and what does it mean?? One person said it might be a sign of hermie but what would cause this?? Thanks. Glad I found your thread. I was unable to answer his question for him.
Once a plant reaches a certain age (autoflowering or not) it is not unusual for a plant to show preflowers, even when in veg. This is a sign that the plant has reached sexual maturity, and is ready to be flowered. You can continue to veg longer if you like, but the preflower is merely an indicator of sex, and sexual maturity. It does not indicate a hermie. I am assuming, of course, that they are female preflowers.
 

bluetick

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Wow! Thanks for such a quick reply. I'm sure he'll be happy to hear that. I thought it had to be forced into flowering so I've learned something today. Nice thread you have here and a great way to get some +reps but for some reason I do not have my scales here anymore since they changed the site. If you could tell me how to rep someone now I will be more than happy to do so. Thanks again amigo.
 

thebaker440

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i have a quick question, I found some balls in the soil of a 6 week old plant which i thought was female but might be a hermi
they look like yellowish bbs and when i popped one open it had white powder in it, now if the plant was a male wouldn't i see some of these on the actual plant itself and not buried in the soil?
just wondering what these balls are and what i should do. thanks
 

Chocolateak47

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ok so i am looking on ebay liek you suggested and HOT DAM thank you im surprised i thought you meant cheap like oh 120 but dam i found one for 60 but i wanna knwo if i shoudl get a 400w or a 250w i am probably growing 1 or 2 plants (depends on if its a male or not) the space is about 2x2x4 and i barely have room for circulation so im thinking a 400w hps would fry my plants. help?
 

420bum

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I have a 250w flores light and six normal bulbs, incandesent I think but they are 60w 130v. I am using the bulbs as secondary light. I know there's only about enough light from my flor. Light to grow two one plants or so, if I were to grow say 4 plants very close to the flor light and turned on the overhead lights, would I be wasting energy or would it help? The lights are about 3ft up, but theres 6 of them.
 

Weedwizz

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I'm think about setting up a small grow area 75cm x 55cm and growing 2-4 plants there besides that I will have another spot for a motherplant to cut clones from. I have 2x 150W HQI 6700k lights should I use both or will one be enough for the clones?
 

Survolte

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I'm think about setting up a small grow area 75cm x 55cm and growing 2-4 plants there besides that I will have another spot for a motherplant to cut clones from. I have 2x 150W HQI 6700k lights should I use both or will one be enough for the clones?
Always go with more light. The more light = the more and the better pot.
 
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