Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

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Jim Dunlop

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Stink why do you and torrey have the same avatar, it's very confusing...

In response to how I said you and earls systems are almost identical, I meant it with respect already knowing how many details were different.
 
Verdant

Verdant

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I'm going to be moving into a 1 bedroom apartment sometime in the coming months and have been trying to think over the past few months on how to, well, turn my one and only bedroom into a veritable silent green factory.

So, I was wondering, in a typical 10x10 foot room, would I be able to put the 3 flower systems in an enclosure built by me? I don't have exact dimensions or specs or anything, but I was thinking it would be about 6x9 feet and built with black plastic on the outside and mylar on the inside in hopes that it would help curb any strong odors and loud noises. I would then run a regular duct line from the enclosure, through the bedroom, and across the hall into the bathroom where it can be sucked up by the main vent fan in there out up into the air above the apartment complex. If I installed a cheap carbon filtration system at the beginning of the vent line from my flowering enclosure, and another at the end of the line in the bathroom before the air gets sucked out, would that take care of most of the smell? I dont know what strain I'm going to go with, but i'm for sure leaning towards ak47, or the purps.

Also with this enclosure would I be able to introduce co2 later with some degree of ease? The cloning and veg systems would then be run in the same room, with one or both maybe set up in the closet, in which case i would keep a squirrell cage in there and have it run to the main duct line coming from the flower "box".

I'm totally open to peoples opinions on this. I know i have ZERO grow experience under my belt, but if i do this, im going to do this right.

Thanks in advance guys.
 
StinkBud

StinkBud

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Jim Dunlop said:
I use sprayers upside-down in my aero system. It's a little different setup. Hope you don't mind me posting pic....

Starting from seeds here, have to start somewhere :/
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Your system is similar to my first system that I bought online. It also had hoses and the misters spraying upside down.

It worked great! The things I didn't like had nothing to do with performance. I had problems with maintenance. It took a long time to deal with all the hoses.

I clean my sprayers every harvest. It was a pain in the ass to do with all the hoses. I also had issues with leaks.

I would come in after one day and there would be two inches of water on the floor. It happened about 10 times and I said fuck this. There is got to be a way to run the sprayers inside!

The thing is there is not enough room in a round pipe to run the sprayer assembly. The roots would hang down into the sprayers.

You see each hose adds multiple connection points. You have one connection to the PVC. You have another one where the hose connects to that. Multiply that by the number of sprayers. Each point is a potential leak.

With my system I do away with all the hoses completely. Even if you had a leaking sprayer the water would just stay inside the fence post.

When I harvest I just pull the entire sprayer assembly out and wash it in the bathtub. It take me a few minutes.

Now image what it must be like to clean all the sprayers in a system using hoses... I've done it before and I can tell you I am too busy to deal with all that spaghetti bullshit again.

Square fence posts are a lot more stable than the round PVC pipe. Simple physics really. Round wants to roll where as the square fence post is a much more stable platform.

You will also notice that the net pots sit better on a flat surface than they do on the curved PVC pipe.

Let's talk about sprayers. Imagine holding a garden hose in your hand. Turn the water on low and point it down. Notice the water pattern.

Now point the hose up. See what happens? You create a much larger spray pattern.

Now turn the water on high. The water pattern dosen't change when the hose is pointing down. Point it up though and the spray pattern increases.

The main purpose of the sprayers is not to provide water. You could do that with a plain NFT design. The sprayers purpose is to aerate the water before it come into contact with the roots. So the sprayers are actually adding air to the roots, not just water. It's all about getting O2 to the root system in the simplest way possible.

So using the sprayers as the engineers designed them is actually a good idea. Go figure! You get a better spray pattern, with better aeration, using a smaller pump. Makes sense to me, how about you?

So how are you going to run the sprayers pointing up using hoses? The only reason you run the sprayers down is no one can figure out a way to run them pointed up without water leaking everywhere.

Oh wait, someone did...

When I see pictures like yours I realize how much simpler the concept of my design is. Not really better, just clean and simple.

My Dad always taught me KISS and then slapped me so I'd remember it:o.

It worked it worked it worked ...sorry brain hiccup...I'm ok now.
 
StinkBud

StinkBud

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Jim Dunlop said:
Stink why do you and torrey have the same avatar, it's very confusing...

In response to how I said you and earls systems are almost identical, I meant it with respect already knowing how many details were different.
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You have to remember that the flower system is just one small part of the whole StinkBud grow system.

My system is based on using a cloner, veg system and separate flowering system together. It not just about one aspect of the grow.

You can't get hung up on just one part of the equation. The cloner is just as important as the flower unit. Without good clones you have nothing.

The veg system is what we take all of our cuttings from. The plants are also allowed to get big enough to flower and produce massive amounts of bud.

Having the veg system lets us run many strains without having to run mother plants for each one.

In my State each plant over 12" counts as mature even if it's not flowering. So each mother plant takes away from my total allowable flowering amount.

My thread has detailed plans on PDF for each system, parts lists, photos and instructions on the entire grow from start to finish. If you read the whole thread you will see what I mean.

I really don't see the comparison between Earl and myself other than he is also using Aero/NFT for flowering.

I do have massive amount of respect for Earl though. He knows his shit well. Nothing wrong with the way he is doing his grow.

But I'll tell you a little secret...if Earl tried my system he would never go back to all the chillers, pumps and hoses, etc...
 
SOG

SOG

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StinkBud said:
The main purpose of the sprayers is not to provide water. You could do that with a plain NFT design. The sprayers purpose is to aerate the water before it come into contact with the roots. So the sprayers are actually adding air to the roots, not just water. It's all about getting O2 to the root system in the simplest way possible.
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in that case, wouldn't it be more simple to properly aerate the res water?
 
Picasso345

Picasso345

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multisonic said:
where can I find these .PDF files?
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I should know the answer to this because I went back and looked it up just so we could have the answer when guys like you asked, but now I haven't a clue what page it's on. I may even have wrote it down somewhere. And furthermore I have no idea how long ago it was I did that. A few days or a week? Man, I found the good medicine tonight. Maybe someone else remembers?
 
SOG

SOG

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Picasso345 said:
I should know the answer to this because I went back and looked it up just so we could have the answer when guys like you asked, but now I haven't a clue what page it's on. I may even have wrote it down somewhere. And furthermore I have no idea how long ago it was I did that. A few days or a week? Man, I found the good medicine tonight. Maybe someone else remembers?
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here ya go, Clicky here
Code: 
https://www.rollitup.org/showthread.php?p=1600736#post1600736
here is the stand alone version
Code: 
https://www.rollitup.org/1600736-post742.html
 
multisonic

multisonic

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I'm gonna throw this up in 2 places:

How to deal with tap water that's 9.6 PH and 700ppm? Suggestions welcome. I think it's having an ill effect on my cloning success.

Note: I do use PH down (obviously in large quantities)

Thanks!
 
Picasso345

Picasso345

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multisonic said:
I'm gonna throw this up in 2 places:

How to deal with tap water that's 9.6 PH and 700ppm? Suggestions welcome. I think it's having an ill effect on my cloning success.

Note: I do use PH down (obviously in large quantities)

Thanks!
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That water isn't fit for human consumption. Who's trying to make you drink that??? Are you sure on the PH?
 
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havefungodumb

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StinkBud said:
You have to remember that the flower system is just one small part of the whole StinkBud grow system.

My system is based on using a cloner, veg system and separate flowering system together. It not just about one aspect of the grow.

You can't get hung up on just one part of the equation. The cloner is just as important as the flower unit. Without good clones you have nothing.

The veg system is what we take all of our cuttings from. The plants are also allowed to get big enough to flower and produce massive amounts of bud.

Having the veg system lets us run many strains without having to run mother plants for each one.

In my State each plant over 12" counts as mature even if it's not flowering. So each mother plant takes away from my total allowable flowering amount.

My thread has detailed plans on PDF for each system, parts lists, photos and instructions on the entire grow from start to finish. If you read the whole thread you will see what I mean.

I really don't see the comparison between Earl and myself other than he is also using Aero/NFT for flowering.

I do have massive amount of respect for Earl though. He knows his shit well. Nothing wrong with the way he is doing his grow.

But I'll tell you a little secret...if Earl tried my system he would never go back to all the chillers, pumps and hoses, etc...
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very nice work stink, and the reply before nicely done man,

im on page 50 trying to find that type of shit out lol,

i like earls alot he does know his shit, funny thing is i was thinking of using a small fridge for a chiller,

i forget what u said, he has to use a big pump/chiller becuase he runs hoses upside down?...

i might spend 40$ and get a square pvc post, im still trying to adjust these sprayers i got , iunno if they gonna work with nutes

but this is just a practis thing for a friend so will see il get pics soon of what i got,

stand,holes drilled in , need some sort of pots, cloner is done up, need to seal harvest and veg and ill be ready to go :)

i think i need a new pz of 1/2 pvc for sprayer system tho,

oh and i found some 18 gal bins at wall mart :)

:( im gonna take pics of my sprayers :)

ONE QUESTION::: for cloner system i took sprayer out had a way line spraying up about foot in a half

think my pump is good?
 
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DIRTHAWKER

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bubblerking said:
something wonderfull is going :weed:thanks stinkbud and everybody on this great forum peace to all
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Hey bubler...i was thinking of how the best way to use netting on this system. My first guess would be that once i get a handle on the size of my plants after these beasts are done. Build a frame of some sort that covers all the 3 systems? but wouldnt that be a bitch to harvest one unit when the screen covers it all? maybe make small individual frames for each unit? hmm anyone have any thoughts?
 
SOG

SOG

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DIRTHAWKER said:
Hey bubler...i was thinking of how the best way to use netting on this system. My first guess would be that once i get a handle on the size of my plants after these beasts are done. Build a frame of some sort that covers all the 3 systems? but wouldnt that be a bitch to harvest one unit when the screen covers it all? maybe make small individual frames for each unit? hmm anyone have any thoughts?
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here's an idea for you
replace the two L shape on the top of the support beams with a T shape connector, this will give you an extra spot to mount
then make a rectangle shape tubing with another T's to attache to the top support beams, drill through the tubing to weave your "removable net" inside the rectangle shape then mount it on to on the support beams ;)

Top view




side view
 
bubblerking

bubblerking

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Your on it dirthwalker you can do it easy just buy the netting and put 2 to 3 layers you can zip tie the netting to the frame its real simple u might half to modify the stand to go higher thats easy too just a hacksaw and a couple connecters bam your done i just staple my netting to my walls i do have a freind that has the elec gray pvc piping its really strong compared to the standerd white pvc he has his netting zip tied and it works great but hey i think with modifing your stand and simple zip ties youd be all good actually know that i think about it get the heavy duty zip ties because your gonna be using co2 and brand new bulbs after every harvest this way your gurannted the highest yeild possible and just think everybody i know and on this forum changes there bulb every 6 months to a year ouch u can get bulbs wholesale at 1000bulbs.com peace bro and great job on your grow your going to excell fast knoldge is power its up to you on how far u can take it im taking to the limit lol get money bro
 
bubblerking

bubblerking

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Ps try the og kush if u love the cheese youll love the og kush all my peeps only want the og kush its my personal fav and anyone that tryes it sayes its the best they ever had the taste is supurb and at harvest time theres hardly any leaf to take off its amazing i tell u matter of fact im going to take a bong hit right know yaaaa hey dirthwalker and stinkies if u smoke out of glass buy some 90percent rubbing alcohol and some salt you pour out your bong water pour in some rubbing alchol and pour in some salt about a table spoon is enough i usually just pour a little in and wish around the alchol and salt the resin instally comes off then just pour the alcholsalt back in the container to re use the next time after u do this rinse bong or pipe out real good with water and you will have a bong or pipe like the day you bought it nothing like taking a bong or pipe hit out of a brand new glass peice know u can peace bros
 
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