MrHowardMarks' experienced grower journal.

[Masterofgenetics]

I do agree with that is the best light cycle possible. But I also like to make it very clear that I reveg almost every plant two or even three times... and never once had hermie... also where i live I can flower twice outside.. That is if I start off on 24 hours inside and stick them outside in early march.. I can usally have a harvest around may with the faster flowering strains.. Then the days get longer by june.. So the plants will reveg on their own.. and I can harvest again in fall...

All the plants I have now.. will be revegged and put outside this summer...

I have heard that they made clone only strains into males by changing the light cycles, But let me understand what your saying..

So if he messed up badly enough to make a hermie. Are you saying that the hermie could self inpregnate its self and get seeds? Because if this was possible.. I would really like to learn how I can make a female have seeds without a male....

It just doesn't make sense to me...

I have seen hermie seeds turn into hermie plants. (bagseed)

But have never seen a female turn hermie... I just dont understand How it could possible grow balls.. Nothing in this world is born one sex then changes only by its self..

lets not get too creepy with this

Alright man...


If you mess around with the lights too much, they'll turn into hermaphrodites...

Veg at either 24 hours or an 18on/6off cycle, then switch to 12/12... Nothing else works better...

I'm pretty sure you've got a hermie on your hands, a lot of people don't recognize a hermie when they see their first one...


I'm sticking with my gut on this one.


Sorry bro, any of you hundreds of readers agree?

 

[Masterofgenetics]

You know you made a very good comment here my friend..

I have given friends of mine cuts before and they didnt have any nutes to use so I told them just to use a little coffee grounds in veg, then use a little of ash and mollases in flower and had great results...

so I want to have a side by side run with a plants on nutes and one without..

I have done this with coco verse foxfarm soil (light warrior) was very impressed with how much faster and stronger the coco plant grew

corrected your sentence for ya m8... if thats what u meant

anyways dont know what dr hornby is...

hehe.. i hardly ever use nutes... only when needed :S i guess i just dont know how to use em

 

[doogleef]

Wow. That's a lot of cash on nutes. I would be very interested to see how all that really does against a more simple regimen. Would you really get that much better product from the whole AN line than from a 1 part complete like GH's FloraNova w/ no additives (other than maybe H2O2)? You turn out some really nice bud, man. Mad respect for ya. Could I beg of you to grab a bottle of FloraNOvaBloom (just a Qt $2 and run a couple plants with just that @ 2.0EC, no flush? I have a hunch that given the same good environment the product you turn out would be comparable to your other stuff.

I would love to run a test like this myself but do not have the funds for the AN line. I'm a newbie and personal stash grower only. Thank god for the commercial growers though. Without you fellas, I would be sober.

 

[doogleef]

Feminised seeds are more likely to hermie. If you have a solid female, non feminized, from good genetics, then it should take LOTS of stress to hermie it but it can happen. Lots of plants go hermie in nature, not just mj. They do this as a self-sustaning mechanism. The plant wants to keep it's line alive in stressful environments.

 

[Masterofgenetics]

well first off doogleef I wanna say your no longer a newbie...novice..lol But your doing great...
Yeah you are very right about the femalized strains... lol I have read how they make them... All I can say I will never buy one..
I think marijuana is the only plant in that can be either male or female..
I am pretty sure every other plant in the entire world is born hermie..

I could be wrong though.. Just look at tomatoes.. If you gently flick the yellow flowers you release the pollin and get more tomatoes... Peppers are the same way.. I have read that marijuana is unlike any other plant in the whole world?

If I am wrong you can flame me gently

Feminised seeds are more likely to hermie. If you have a solid female, non feminized, from good genetics, then it should take LOTS of stress to hermie it but it can happen. Lots of plants go hermie in nature, not just mj. They do this as a self-sustaning mechanism. The plant wants to keep it's line alive in stressful environments.

 

[doogleef]

Thanks for the kind words, MOG. I am running fem seeds now. They can be pretty stable depending on the breeder. I am keeping an eye on them.

Actually, 70% of flowering plants are hermaphroditic. Here is a cool quiz site on it http://www.quizmoz.com/quizzes/Plants-and-Gardening-Quizzes/h/Hermaphrodite-Plants-Quiz.asp

Sorry for the hijack, MHM!

 

[slackjack]

It's not the only plant that has two distinct sexes, but I can't thikn of any others off the top of my head.
And as for it being hard to herm a natural female...
Long before I found this site, I planted a few mex red hair bagseeds, and like a super newb, put them on the shelf in my closet near the light and just tried to keep the light on as much as possible. My roommates would turn it off and I knew nothing of light cycles. but they got enough light not to flower, then I gave them to my friend who had a 400w he'd just bought and we put them under 12/12. 4 of 4 hermies, these came from basically a landrace strain, fresh almost wild genetics (I imagine, i've never checked up on the mexican shwag croppers)

 

[MrHowardMarks]

Yeah MOG, hermaphradites are common in unstable genetics...

A lot of bagseeds might be a result of herm pollination...



Back to babs, or whoever was wondering if a hermie can self pollinate... YES, it can, but the seeds will most likely hermie, or will have a really strong tendency to do so...

There are tons and tons of plants that are male female specific, and many that have both sexes... A considerable amount of the sex specific plants will turn hermaphroditic in cases of survival.



Think about it for a second...



Natural selection.



If a plant's only job in life is to grow big and produce seeds to further populate an area, and there are no males around to pollinate them (impregnate) they will go to drastic measures and pollinate themselves... Masturbation.

Basically the offspring of a feminized cross will be degenerate retards who will masturbate all the time...


Don't quote me on that... It's my opinion supported by basic facts.




About the comparison tests...


I started with GH 3 part... Did alright, and eventually added BigBud when it came out... After that grow i switched to AN 3 part with BigBud...


So what I'm saying is I started where everyone did, and continued to add beneficials to my mix as I progressed...


The recipe I just stated was abbreviated from what I'd normally use.


The subtraction of all the Hornby products was at least a thousand dollars in savings...

But I definately notice a difference in resin amounts from not using it, as far as growth, I'm not sure, I don't have anything to compare side by side...

I don't really want to waste the sq feet to do a comparison of a standard base nute only regimen against the recipe I'm using... Sorry.




DWR Definately invest some money in some good nutes, you'll at least double, if not triple your harvest. You can get a decent regimen for around 50-100 bucks...





And to everyone, the hydroponic nutrient industry makes billions a year, it's for a good reason, they get results...

 

[MrHowardMarks]

 

[floydfanx6]

hey howard,i just got a sample of collosoal bud blast,,how would u use it,,i know the dillution rate,but how often,and when? thanx also i have AN overdrive,,but im using botanicare pbp line and supplements,and i have somethign called hydroplex,and i belive thee almost the same thing,isnt purple maxx from humbuldt a lot like collosoal bud blast, derived from amino acids ,thanx brother

 

[DR. VonDankenstine]

Your in for a treat when you foliar spray the collasal(fresh baby shit smell in your room) You can foliar one a week with lights-off--mix a few drops of dish-soap with the water and CBB. Maybe Marks has a different method for spraying the "shit" all over.

 

[SlikWiLL13]

MHM doesnt foliar in flower. i do though, i use dutch masters max-fx flower formula with thier penetrator. it does the same thing as purple maxx for half the price but its not organic and is for foliar only. i foliar every other day too, but i also have no humidity or mold issues to concern me.

 

[Babs34]

Guys.....off the topic. I don't have anyone to vent about to this now. Maybe I shouldn't say "vent." I am LMAOOOOOOOOO!!!! I just turned on the TV to see the "experts" ANAYLZE the "evils" of MJ.........HAHAHAHAHAHA. They are ALL over Michael Phelps ass. Poor guy goes to a party and takes a bong hit and now has a blemished reputation. Should he keep his gold medal they ask? LOOOOL......what is this? Miss America?
What the hell business is it of the medias anyway? It would appear some stupid punk took a picture of him without his knowledge. Seriously, what did the idiot get from doing so? A reward?.....probably.
Society is so completely uneducated. I use to workout 5 hours a day---get high BEFORE working out. People have such a warped image of what "stoners" appear to be, OR they simply pre-judge them by appearance alone. I've known attorneys and many other professionals that light up. It certainly doesn't keep them from being productive AND law-abiding...yes, I said law-abiding, citizens.
Honestly, it really is hard for me to watch the "experts" on TV providing society with their "expertise knowledge"......think about it. How many times do you see someone on TV CLEARLY STATING THE FACTS........
You guys don't know me. I get so tempted to go right up to the whitehouse and smoke up. WTH.....Clinton didn't "inhale"....but he sure did have it in his possession. Obama confesses to inhaling....neither were treated as a criminal for such. And then you have Montel getting on a daytime talk show---with NO hesitation---saying, "Yes, I go home every single night and light one up." Do you see him being arrested? Seriously, who in the hell does the government think themselves to be? They provided many people accross this country with a supply for years. Now they think it their "right" to arrest a person who is not even asking that they be funded for their own personal stash???
It wasn't long ago that I was in a convenient store and some really big guy in front of me turned around and was chewing on a huge stem--wasn't too hard to figure out what kind. I immediately thought to myself.....what an idiot. For all practical purposes, he could have been arrested for that alone. Funny

 

[Babs34]

oops...damn enter button....
Funny thing is, I haven't even given that thought until now. Maybe he was just attempting to make a statement. Go ahead, sue me.....I get high. Am I really hurting you in doing so? Everyone else was in there buying cases of beer. OK, I'll just leave it at that.
I just hope that the day I stand up for my rights (because I will)----someone HAS to----that I am fortunate enough to not be penalized for having done so.

 

[MrHowardMarks]

I agree... The entire swim team was a bunch of stoners back in high school...



Just imagine the lung capacity of Michael Phelps!!!


I bet (if he wanted to) he could burn a whole ounce up in one bong hit...








About the Colossal Bud Blast, apparently the new formula is different from the one I had years ago, the one I had smell like a mixture of ammonia and cat shit...



Anyway...


It's used in veg, and the first two weeks in flower if I remember right...


If you're vegging under HPS and getting a little yellowing, it helps boost the nitrates and nitrogen levels and makes the plants a dark lush green... It works pretty fast too, yellowish plants will be green in two days...


I stopped using it because of humidity issues in my last two grows, and I wasn't in veg for all that long...



If you have an established veg room it'd be a good addition to your arsenal...





BUT, you don't want to use it on mothers you are about to clone, the extra nitrogen will make her take a lot longer to root clones...

Actually, to get faster clones, I do a plain watering, then a watering with a light bloom feed, and they root much faster...


You want to have low nitrogen and high potassium and phosphorous for a plant to produce roots.



I didn't see a real significant difference in using the entire AN foliar program vs without...

I think (memory) this is all that was in it;

AN Fulvic
AN Seaweed
AN Emerald Shaman
AN Scorpion
AN Growth XL
AN B52
AN Barricade
AN Carboload


There might be more I'm forgetting, it's called the AN 2+ foliar feed program...

I didn't see much difference.

 

[twistedentities]

hey man, do u have a prefered method of drying and curing? ive always dried them till they just strted to get crunchy on the outside then jarred and burped...i see alot of ppl here that hang fro 3 days then paper bag them then jars....is there an advantage to bags?...

 

[multisonic]

i'm just gonna fro this out there. i put mine in a bud dryer that I made. It consists of a rubbermaid container with many holes drilled in it full of screen shelves and a 250 cfm fan mounted to the lid. LOTS of air circulation!. 4 days in there in the dark at about 70ish degrees and they come out just barely too moist to smoke. then into jars or bags and they're ready by the time people want them. I know it's not the best way but it is rather fast.

 

[MrHowardMarks]

I don't use paper bags, I notice a cardboard flavor leeches into the plants...



I swear I've explained this several times, but maybe not in this thread


At harvest I remove as much leaf as possible...

I hang dry for 3-5 days until the buds are crispy but the stems are still bendy and don't snap. Plenty of airflow is key, a few fans are plenty.


Once they're crispy I cut the buds from the stem and put them in 2 gallon ziplocks to sweat out the stems and the inside of the buds.

After 12-24 hours of sweating I and sit them in box lids as trays, any improvised tray will work...


After about 12 hours they're crispy again, and I put them back in the bag...

After another 12 hours they're wet again, and I sit them in the trays...

Once they stay crispy after 12 hours sealed up, they're done, and the curing process begins...

You want to keep a little moisture in the bud, and open the jar every now and then...

Fermentation takes a couple weeks, all of the complex sugars left in the plant material will ferment into simplified sugars that have a sweet sugary taste... Uncured herb has the bitter taste, and if you don't promptly remove the leaf before drying you'll have a chlorophyl "plant" flavor...


That's how I do it.

 

[MrHowardMarks]

Yeah, that'll work too multisonic...


If you have humidity problems, you'll need more air circulation, you can make a rack drying system with wire racks and fans blowing from underneath... If temps are really low you can add a space heater, that'll lower the humidity and quicken up the process too... Not too hot though, 80 degrees F is as high as you should go...

Plenty of circulation is key.

 

[multisonic]

sometimes i add a heater in the room where the dryer is. yeah 80 is tops. isn't that like 23 C? i think it was fdd whos design i made mine from.