Obama is the anti-Christ!!!

[Tronica]

kind of person... un-informed... may your 'god' strike me down then. as i said before i'm not an athiest. don't stick me in your little boxes just because i don't believe what you do. twat.

rest my case.

 

[mexiblunt]

I guess it doesn't show when a post is edited anymore?

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

i was going to say something witty and profound to reinforce zig zag zane but i can't be arsed. you religious freaks just wouldn't get it and its 3am and i'm going to bed.

big up to the zig zag zane and anyone else that thinks logically and intelligently.

to all the apes that are scared of anything they don't or can't understand, never mind you won't even know real enlightenment because you will have wasted your lives thinking the beardy bloke is watching over you.

ttm.

yeah AGSteve thanks and +rep to you, im gonna have to just unsubscribe and call it a night too bro, no matter what point i make...even me being the more nice one in this discussion, it simply wont get through.

 

[Tronica]

yeah AGSteve thanks and +rep to you, im gonna have to just unsubscribe and call it a night too bro, no matter what point i make...even me being the more nice one in this discussion, it simply wont get through.

what are you trying to "get thro"?

just thought id ask?

are you trying to convert us to atheism? or are you discussing the facts?

p.s.

for your own benefit you shouldn't be getting cozy with the ignorant, even if he shares some of your views. you just get lumped in with the ignorant as well.

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

I thought you were discussing religion? And doesn't a disscusion involve talking and listening?

i have listened, and i have said MORE than enuff to show where i stand, but it goes through one ear and out the other.

 

[mexiblunt]

I was just here for entertainment purposes, sry to anyone/everyone I forgive myself.

 

[natmoon]

Everything is impossible.
You have to work the rest out for yourselves.
God and the Devil exist in each and every thing that exists or should that be good and evil,things get lost in translation.
Basic physics would imply that there must be a positive force and a negative force at either end of our universe or it would collapse.
As to whether these forces have an exact and interfering hand in our existence or demise remains to be seen.

We all make choices,we are all good and bad,everything is positive and negative and if it wasn't it would simply fall to bits.
I would advise you not to try removing either the positive or negative terminals from your plug sockets just as i would advise you not to cut your brain in half.
Both are needed in this universe and people make choices

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

what are you trying to "get thro"?

just thought id ask?

are you trying to convert us to atheism? or are you discussing the facts?

im not trynna convert becuz i kno that a convo on the internet one night wont do that, but all the very significant points i have made, have either been completely ignored, or just swayed into something else... so sorry fuck it. like when you were sayin all that stuff about jesus and him being the only true divine sum shit....like im sorry but we have no documentation other than the bible, to prove that jesus was in fact actually a real person that ever lived! anyways like i said...it was good for me to just vent and explain my views in hopes that it would make ppl question and doubt lol but with many religious ppl, points that i have made wont even make a dent...

 

[Tronica]

Everything is impossible.
You have to work the rest out for yourselves.
God and the Devil exist in each and every thing that exists or should that be good and evil,things get lost in translation.
Basic physics would imply that there must be a positive force and a negative force at either end of our universe or it would collapse.
As to whether these forces have an exact and interfering hand in our existence or demise remains to be seen.

We all make choices,we are all good and bad,everything is positive and negative and if it wasn't it simply fall to bits.
I would advise you not to try removing either the positive or negative terminals from your plug sockets just as i would advise you not to cut your brain in half.
Both are needed in this universe and people make choices

A reason to be agnostic, and not atheist.

 

[Tronica]

im not trynna convert becuz i kno that a convo on the internet one night wont do that, but all the very significant points i have made, have either been completely ignored, or just swayed into something else... so sorry fuck it. like when you were sayin all that stuff about jesus and him being the only true divine sum shit....like im sorry but we have no documentation other than the bible, to prove that jesus was in fact actually a real person that ever lived! anyways like i said...it was good for me to just vent and explain my views in hopes that it would make ppl question and doubt lol but with many religious ppl, points that i have made wont even make a dent...

wow wow wow wow wow

we have no documentation of jesus?

see you're wrong here, and the bible is definately not what im referring to.

get back to me after you do a little research on the man himself.

 

[natmoon]

A reason to be agnostic, and not atheist.

Did you actually think about what i said or read without thought and then put me in a box?

 

[Tronica]

do you know what agnostic means?

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

for your own benefit you shouldn't be getting cozy with the ignorant, even if he shares some of your views. you just get lumped in with the ignorant as well.

dude, i dont see him as ignorant, he may have been more unsympathetic to your views, but to us and many others, we cant even see how ppl can believe in these gods and religions that we made up on this earth, and to you and many other religious people, you cant understand how we dont believe...it goes both ways and it wont change

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

uhhh naw, i stand by my point that we have no actual proof that the jesus even ever lived...except in stories and books...and of course the bible, trace the dna back to jesus then talk to me

 

[natmoon]

do you know what agnostic means?

I am not of the agnostic faith and yes i am fairly knowledgeable.
I am not to be put in a box by you or anyone else.
Did you have any understanding at all of what i had previously said and if so what are you views on it?

Everything is impossible.
You have to work the rest out for yourselves.
God and the Devil exist in each and every thing that exists or should that be good and evil,things get lost in translation.
Basic physics would imply that there must be a positive force and a negative force at either end of our universe or it would collapse.
As to whether these forces have an exact and interfering hand in our existence or demise remains to be seen.

We all make choices,we are all good and bad,everything is positive and negative and if it wasn't it would simply fall to bits.
I would advise you not to try removing either the positive or negative terminals from your plug sockets just as i would advise you not to cut your brain in half.
Both are needed in this universe and people make choices

 

[Tronica]

no no no. see you're assuming here, i never said i didn't know how you didn't believe

its pretty simple really. you dont have faith. thats why you don't believe.

you need "proof" of god before you'll belive it. even if there is no proof there is no god, you still know that. by claiming to be atheist this is your cree.

this is why atheism is so dumb to me personally. it is the most close minded ego driven beliefe.

you can't prove anything, but you still clutch to nothing like its the truth.

thats why i personally cant stand atheist but i totally get where an agnostic is coming from.


and for the guy who doesn't know the difference.

an atheist has no beliefe. he does not believe there is not a god, he believes in nothing.

an agnostic is open minded. an agnostic does not presume there is no god, but also doesn't believe in a god or follow any religion. - these people i can understand, and they make sense.

natmoon, agnosticism is not a religion bro

 

[Stoney McFried]

If you look at the movie zeitgeist, for one, you'll see where the origin of the Christ myth came from...it's been recycled over and over from older religions,basically he is a symbol of death and rebirth,derived from Sun worship.The end of the world has been unsuccessfully prophesied for millennia, and it has never come.Though the end of man may come, the world will last a long time after the last of us is gone.But everyone wants to believe they're special,and that the end of the world will come in their lifetime, and they have been "chosen" to witness this.At least the religious types do.And they're wrong, and they've been wrong over and over again.
The bible is a work of fiction,written by a group of men who wanted to establish a code of conduct for Christians.Just because you don't like a guy doesn't make him the "anti Christ",and in fact,he can't be the anti Christ because there was no Christ.There has been no scientific or historical evidence of this person existing. If you wish to believe in the Christian faith, by all means, go ahead.But realize that your religion and belief system does not apply to everyone,and the world and the existence of it is not governed by any man made religion or superstition.Certainly at one time or another,Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini,Napoleon Bonaparte,Saddam Hussein,and Ronald Reagan, to name a few, have all been accused of being the anti Christ.Surely any one of those would have been infinitely more qualified to fill the role than Barack Obama.

Well i was kinda high the other day.. and i was watching some politics stuff.. and obama was signing a paper in front of like a million people.. why do people gather around for this guy like hes a god.Its said that the anti christ will come to us as a charming, charismatic, handsome man and people will love him. i don't think obama is handsome but idk.. well it still seems like people love him. He meets most of the standards i guess..

the end of his 1st term as president ends in 2012.. which has ben prophesysed to be the end of the world. will obama carry us to the end.. or will the end start at the second term of his presidency when he is inevitably re elected. Everything will seem perfect and then at some point in 2012.. everything will go to hell.


Obama could be the anti-christ.. the only way to know is to search his body for the mark of the beast.. but damn.. only his wife could do that to the president of the motha fucken US... hes pretty much untouchable.. so i guess we wont know until its all over.


What do you people think? was i a bit too high.. or does this make sense..

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

tronica, natmoon wasnt even really referring to religion at all, anyways i was sposed to retire from this thread a while back....my ending statement is just that, i'd rather base what i believe and know on science and fact and not this thing called "faith"...it doesnt make sense...i might as well believe the the boogey-man is our god and created the earth and say "i have faith thats whats true"...you will read that and say im just narrow minded or something, but to me its just that illogical and ridiculous....you speak of enlightenment...well non-religious people feel VERY enlightened...just not about the same belief

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

if you look at the movie zeitgeist, for one, you'll see where the origin of the christ myth came from...it's been recycled over and over from older religions,basically he is a symbol of death and rebirth,derived from sun worship.the end of the world has been unsuccessfully prophesied for millennia, and it has never come.though the end of man may come, the world will last a long time after the last of us is gone.but everyone wants to believe they're special,and that the end of the world will come in their lifetime, and they have been "chosen" to witness this.at least the religious types do.and they're wrong, and they've been wrong over and over again.
The bible is a work of fiction,written by a group of men who wanted to establish a code of conduct for christians.just because you don't like a guy doesn't make him the "anti christ",and in fact,he can't be the anti christ because there was no christ.there has been no scientific or historical evidence of this person existing. If you wish to believe in the christian faith, by all means, go ahead.but realize that your religion and belief system does not apply to everyone,and the world and the existence of it is not governed by any man made religion or superstition.certainly at one time or another,adolf hitler, benito mussolini,napoleon bonaparte,saddam hussein,and ronald reagan, to name a few, have all been accused of being the anti christ.surely any one of those would have been infinitely more qualified to fill the role than barack obama.

thank you.

 

[Tronica]

well if you believe in the big bang, and the scientifical theories that come with that, then where did the 2 atoms come from?

if nothing was created from something, what created the nothing?

the big bang theory can be explained with relgiion too, and so can all of evolution.

but let me ask you since you brought it up, where does your enlightenment come from?

what do you live for knowing that you, and everything about you, will cease to exist when you die? why do you practice this exercise in futility called life?