laserbrn
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Wow, that's an unbelievable lack of reading the thread there.
Leaves dying in flowering <pic>
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user192021
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Lol, seriously. I mean, I appreciate people trying to give tips...and I don't necessarily expect somebody to read 13 pages of posts...but we ruled out the N deficiency theory like 3 weeks ago.
laserbrn
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Right? Do you have any of those pictures yet brotha? They looked good so long ago, they must look FANTASTIC now. I'm sure you don't see it as much because you see them day-by-day. I have that problem for sure.
user192021
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The colas are beginning to collapse under the weight of the buds. Any advise for tying these up? I rigged a little setup with string tied to my reflector that wraps around the largest cola just to keep it from swaying too much from the fan.
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laserbrn
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They look "interesting"...
Did you ever stop adding N? For some reason your plants are GROWING.
I would flush flush flush and check for light leaks. It looks like time to chop as well, how far along are you?
They look amazing, except for the "hats"?
user192021
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All I'm feeding with is Fox Farm Tiger Bloom, pH'd to 7.0. No additional N is being given.
I think I have at least a couple of weeks to go before chopping - trichs are 90% clear, 10% cloudy, 0 amber, and today is day 54 of 12/12.
As far as light leaks, there are none - the room is solid. HOWEVER, my light shuts off right around the time I get home from work and it goes back on just before I leave in the AM....soooo...the only time I get to "work" on the plant, ie: watering, checking pH, adjusting light height, taking measurements, etc.... is when the light is supposed to be off, so I have to turn just the room light on when I do those things. So...the plant does get exposed to maybe 10 minutes of very low level lighting (two incandescent light bulbs) each day when it should be night time. Could that explain the new growth?
I assumed the new growth was due to the pH being corrected and the buds being given a chance to realize their full potential. I was actually pleased to see them growing... I honestly didn't think that turning the incandescent ceiling light on for 10 minutes per day would mess the plant up that much, lol. I agree the plant is odd looking..especially at this stage. I wish I had something better than a phone to use for a camera...but you get the idea.
I think I have at least a couple of weeks to go before chopping - trichs are 90% clear, 10% cloudy, 0 amber, and today is day 54 of 12/12.
As far as light leaks, there are none - the room is solid. HOWEVER, my light shuts off right around the time I get home from work and it goes back on just before I leave in the AM....soooo...the only time I get to "work" on the plant, ie: watering, checking pH, adjusting light height, taking measurements, etc.... is when the light is supposed to be off, so I have to turn just the room light on when I do those things. So...the plant does get exposed to maybe 10 minutes of very low level lighting (two incandescent light bulbs) each day when it should be night time. Could that explain the new growth?
I assumed the new growth was due to the pH being corrected and the buds being given a chance to realize their full potential. I was actually pleased to see them growing... I honestly didn't think that turning the incandescent ceiling light on for 10 minutes per day would mess the plant up that much, lol. I agree the plant is odd looking..especially at this stage. I wish I had something better than a phone to use for a camera...but you get the idea.
laserbrn
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OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.......no lights during the dark cycle!!!!
That is sooooo bad.
You've got to do a lot more reading on how this whole thing works. There are auxins and other hormones in the plants that induce flowering in the plant. These hormones are present in MJ at all times but they are inhibited by light. This makes the plant extremely photosensitive, the hormones only have a chance to reach "flowering" levels when they get their required amount of uninterrupted dark. You cannot, under any circumstances interrupt this period.
You need to check your plant really closely and carefully to see if you have succusefully hermied it too. This kind of light stressing repeatedly will amost always lead to hermies.
user192021
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Wow, sounds like I fucked up. I knew it wasn't ideal to have a light on for a few minutes during dark cycle, but I seriously didn't realize they were THAT sensitive. Lesson learned.
I don't see any signs at all of hermie...but I will keep an eye on it and I definitely will not expose the plant to any light at all during "night" time. Anything else I need to do at this point other than keep the plant completely away from light during dark cycle? Should I still just got by trichs when determing the correct time to chop?
I don't see any signs at all of hermie...but I will keep an eye on it and I definitely will not expose the plant to any light at all during "night" time. Anything else I need to do at this point other than keep the plant completely away from light during dark cycle? Should I still just got by trichs when determing the correct time to chop?
laserbrn
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yeah, I don't know what's going to happen, your plant has reverted itself back to veg and is growing again. If you put it back on a true 12/12 it's going to be a strange goings on in my book. I don't know even know what to tell you about this.
You might want to start a new thread "My plant started vegging late into flower!"
and post pics...I'm not super familiar with this problem, but I'm sure others have done it.
blackmarketseeds
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You have two problems going on with your plants.
1. The air in your grow room is to dry. Should be around 25% humidity.
2. Your pH is way off. Get a tester and make sure your pH is at the proper level for the type of grow (soil, roockwool and so on).
1. The air in your grow room is to dry. Should be around 25% humidity.
2. Your pH is way off. Get a tester and make sure your pH is at the proper level for the type of grow (soil, roockwool and so on).
laserbrn
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This is going to happen all day with this thread.
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user192021
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I don't really know what you're talking about man. My rH is between 25-35% at all times.
I've already corrected my pH and we have ID'd this as the original problem causing the yellowing of leaves my plant was experiencing. I have taken steps to correct this and the problem has mostly been resolved.
I can't think of anything else that is way off. Like I said, unless the corrected pH is promoting new growth...you're probably right...the light exposure during dark cycle is the most likely explanation for the new growth. Won't make that mistake again.laserbrn said:
I'm eager to smoke this bud and I would much rather see my plant putting it's energy toward developing the buds already in place rather than producing new foliage. I have a feeling I just inadvertently added a few weeks of additional time to my first grow.
user192021
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Flushed today w/ 3x the size of my container. pH of runoff is 6.51. Today is day 57 of flowering and trichs are 80% cloudy, 10% clear, still no amber. Plant is 44'' tall. The new vegitative growth is producing additional buds on the tops of my colas...so I guess this is a good thing. I'm on the lookout for signs of hermie due to the light stress the plant has been exposed to and I haven't found any...so hopefully it will hold out till harvest time.
Question - at this point should I just continue watering with straight water and look to harvest in a couple of weeks or should I return to feeding w/ bloom nutes? I'm looking for 50% amber trichs when I harvest...but I have a bad feeling the plant may go hermie on me due to the light stress so I don't know how much longer I should wait before harvesting...
Question - at this point should I just continue watering with straight water and look to harvest in a couple of weeks or should I return to feeding w/ bloom nutes? I'm looking for 50% amber trichs when I harvest...but I have a bad feeling the plant may go hermie on me due to the light stress so I don't know how much longer I should wait before harvesting...
HarvestFest2010
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Complete idiot huh, well what about equipment breakdown, power outages, shithead doing bad pipework and f-ing up the tap water. Killing off all my fish and my plants....and what really sucked is i couldn't say shit.
HarvestFest2010
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Will a bud still grow if it grows past or around the light? Will they die without light?
HarvestFest2010
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Direct Light??
MrFishy
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Good read. Personally, I'd be seriously considering harvesting, but I really don't like/need couch-lock.
I'd be more concerned with age causing hermie at this point. Lots of strains will try and reproduce late in flowering, especially once those buds are ripe. Your's sound about perfect, IMO.
I really don't see it needing two more weeks, but would probably just use straight water (pH'ed?)
laserbrn
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I would go through and harvest too. I don't see any good coming of all of this. You have new budsites up at the top? This is just too strange...flush it out, chop it down and start on your next one. Read up on here and check out the FAQ. You've got most things down, but gotta learn to watch out for.