pro's and cons of lighting

[candylime12]

well this sucks i just spent an hour writeing a response to this shit and the damn thing wouldnt let me post it. when i know for a fact that i was loged in cause 1 its the first thing i do and two i got to my thread from my roll it up so what the fuck anyways
anytime you guys are done argueing id like to discuss something else for the 2nd time

 

[TeaTreeOil]

Please, candylime12, go on. We've concluded as much as we can thus far.

 

[KaliKitsune]

No you feel like not putting any effort into this because I'm now armed with my book on Plasma reactions. You just got owned by a doctorate-level physics book and you can't take it.

 

[Syriuslydelyrius]

and now if i could have your attention could we have a discussion about ventalation. the progject is a 6x6x6 grow area now planed as hps or hid system growing 6 budding plants in soil. i open the floor

I would reccomend that you ask this in a new uncluttered post. I dont forsee a big agrument over proper ventilation however after reading some stuff on the forums here who the hell knows lol..

 

[KaliKitsune]

well this sucks i just spent an hour writeing a response to this shit and the damn thing wouldnt let me post it. when i know for a fact that i was loged in cause 1 its the first thing i do and two i got to my thread from my roll it up so what the fuck anyways
anytime you guys are done argueing id like to discuss something else for the 2nd time

Just IM me - I'll set you straight with all relevant diagrams, formulas, info that you need.

Because Teatree certainly isn't going to provide it - as they don't have it to begin with.

I'll scan my books for you and give you each page in full detail if that helps you.

Just IM me - might take a bit to respond cuz I'm watching a movie.

 

[candylime12]

thanks tree,
any way i had this all done up before but the damn thing kicked me out when i tryed to post. anyways here s pretty much the design of the room hows it look

 

[candylime12]

i know the drawing sucks but it gets the point across.

 

[candylime12]

thanks i posted a plan and i have it kinda worked out was just looking for the pros and cons

 

[Brick Top]

No you feel like not putting any effort into this because I'm now armed with my book on Plasma reactions. You just got owned by a doctorate-level physics book and you can't take it.

That is who and what TreeDweller is. He spouts off his half baked notions and tries to back them up with information from Wiki and other less than credible sources and when he finally realizes that he stepped in it deep he runs and hides while making some silly childish response.

For the love of God people do not ever make the mistake of taking any advice from TreeDweller.

He is a magnificent example of someone having just enough knowledge to make them dangerous.

When you combine that with his massively over-inflated ego and what has to be a very deep-seated inferiority complex the result is that he is driven to go to great lengths to attempt to validate his horrible advice no matter how many people will suffer from it.

When he gives any advice JUST SAY NO.

 

[TeaTreeOil]

Just IM me - I'll set you straight with all relevant diagrams, formulas, info that you need.

Because Teatree certainly isn't going to provide it - as they don't have it to begin with.

I'll scan my books for you and give you each page in full detail if that helps you.

Just IM me - might take a bit to respond cuz I'm watching a movie.

Then do it.

Yes, I'm "they". Thanks!

 

[KaliKitsune]

Then do it.

Yes, I'm "they". Thanks!

They is a proper genderless term to use when referring to a person and their gender is unknown.

You failed Elementary - I learned that in third grade.

And I've already got the IM, so I'm gonna help!

 

[KaliKitsune]

Oh, and Candy you might wish to allow me to send you messages back - can't help you if I can't send you messages over the forum

 

[candylime12]

i looked at my settings it says that i can receive. any idea's ???? compute illiterate.

 

[Syriuslydelyrius]

And I've already got the IM, so I'm gonna help!

Thanks kalikitsune for helping candylime out with the ventilation set up, I am defently unsubscribing from this post now so you all can have a good one.


I also think that it violates the Geneva convention to have an intellectual battle with an unarmed man.

 

[candylime12]

i didnt want to hurt any bodys feelings now!

 

[TeaTreeOil]

They is a proper genderless term to use when referring to a person and their gender is unknown.

You failed Elementary - I learned that in third grade.

And I've already got the IM, so I'm gonna help!

The correctness of that usage is disputed.

Obama won't be paying your teachers extra.

 

[KaliKitsune]

The correctness of that usage is disputed.

Obama won't be paying your teachers extra.

Every other language in the word that uses gender-neutral grammar accepts and uses their word for 'they' in a singular form when appropriate. Same thing happens in Latin. Only the people that never were taught gender-neutrality in basic English fail to grasp this concept. Practically every other language in the world accepts it, while the United States tries to go against it.

I guess that's one major advantage of attending an independent school system as opposed to city and county school systems - we didn't rely upon Federal money. Yet another one of your ignorant statements just got nailed down, again.

 

[chalkie]

Walmart CFL's compared to real grow CFL's, lumens compared to light needed and actually used by the plant, replacement cost compared to startup costs. All damn good valid info. Man if you guys aimmed your guns at the same spot i wouldnt wanna be on that end lol

 

[trombon84]

LOL hahaha

he has 40,000 lumen of cfls at over 6000 lumen per sq ft at the moment and is going to add another 40,000 with a HPS lamp giving him 12000 lumen per sq ft or if he just used 1/2 of his cfls thats still 9,000 lumen per sq ft This is still tripple the amount of lumens per sq ft than required. About everything you will read about the amount of lumens per sq ft needed will say 2,000 to 3,000 lumen per sq ft and with my own experiences I have noticed a bit better results with 4,000 lumen per sq ft however I have been as high as 7,000 per foot and there wasnt really a distingisable differance than with the 4k.

Take it for what its worth, I have been growing plants indoors for almost 20 years now so feel free to just discount everything I say just because of my username LOL

I read different books about this light thingy ... there are some that they say that you need around 10.000 lumens per squire feet. Other ... says that you need 2000-3000.
Oh well ... quite big difference.
Outside though, they get OVER 10.000...and they are fine...
Anyway, what I was saying is that I wanna try the HPS because I believe you get better bud . and also, the next grow room will be bigger than what I have right now ... I guess I forgot to mention that ...

Thanks for your thoughts though.

 

[TeaTreeOil]

Every other language in the word that uses gender-neutral grammar accepts and uses their word for 'they' in a singular form when appropriate. Same thing happens in Latin. Only the people that never were taught gender-neutrality in basic English fail to grasp this concept. Practically every other language in the world accepts it, while the United States tries to go against it.

I guess that's one major advantage of attending an independent school system as opposed to city and county school systems - we didn't rely upon Federal money. Yet another one of your ignorant statements just got nailed down, again.

Funny bone of steel.