DIY Closet DWC Grow - First grow ever

[jigfresh]

Alright guys... now I'm totally freaking out for two reasons:

My plants are going too fast (I think)?

And I found A BUG!!!

I don't know what kind... and I only found one... but I know if there is one...

FUCK

It looked like the worlds smallest grasshopper, and it was tan???

Also, in removing the leaf the bug was on, I looked at the trichs on that leaf and I saw maybe 30% Amber trichs... What the hell guys... It isn't 5 full weeks????

Should I start the gravity tomorrow, run for like 5-6 days then start flushing...

I'm totally worried I'm going to get to the middle of next week, never use the gravity and never flush and have to chop them.

What the hell should I do?

If I don't get other advise I think I am going to do what I said, gravity tomorrow for a few days then flush this time next week.

sorry pics suck

The leaf with amber trichs is from the very center of the screen.

The last 4 pics are from the very edge of the screen.

 

[tom__420]

Not sure about the bug dude, I wish I could help you out with that. I guess as long as there isn't a lot of them you should be good. It might have just been a random bug that got in from outside. And about the harvesting matter. I would go ahead and use the gravity and continue on with the regular schedule. Some growers on here choose not to flush. I can't see any amber trichs from the pics but I could be wrong. You should pick up the 12 dollar 60-100x microscope from radio shack. You can really see the trichs up close so that you know the perfect time to harvest

 

[Hulk Nugs]

dam your right that does look like a little grasshopper i wouldnt worry just check some leaves if theres no holes then he was not eating the leave maybe some thc then got so baked he never wanted to leave.

Yea i would go to radio shack get that $12 one works really good i got one, you can focus in on just like three tirchomes, from what i see in your pics i wouldnt think your ready yet, i am trying to find the pic i saw of when to harvest, the trichomes are fully amber and some are little clear and amber. i wouldnt worry yet man i would just go with what you had planed to do and if the trichomes keep on getting more amber then use your gravity and flush, but i would give it another 24 before you do anything. But shit what do i know lmao


Yep my girls younger, its funny when i was 16 i dated a girl that was 20 then after her i dated another girl that was older then me but as i got older i started noticing my gfs were a year or two younger. "I keep on getting older, but the girls just stay the same age i love it" Dazed and Confused somthing like that always a good movie

 

[smoote1987]

Hey Jig,

Yea you're fine. Assuming you or your camera didn't correct any of the color you're right on schedule. I'd say you're about 30% cloudy.

Some things to think about when you look at the trichs are that they turn amber first on the leaves and then on the calyx. You want to watch the trichs on the calyx because they're a more accurate signal of when the flowers ready. I mean you're smoking the flowers right so you want them to be ripe. Looking at the trichomes under the yellow light of an hps can actually make them look amber when they're not. I like to look at my flowers under a nice bright daylight bulb. They have a very good CRI so colors are very accurate to the human eye.

Check out that microscope they're talking about if its $12 couldn't hurt to try. The reasons why i use my loupe are because it was on hand, its easy to use, and well it was on hand. They're also cheap but for $12 you really can't go wrong. Not bad taking the pics through the loupe though. I've never tried that. The photo loupe is used to look at contact sheets and tiny negatives. The thing you described is a macro lens. I do have one of those i'll have to use it when i start my journal. If you try taking pics through it again you might be able to get a better focus and more contrast if you backed the leaf with something black like black construction paper.

Weird bug... try to identify it online, there's a few good insect indexes online. I used one to identify a few dragonfly nymphs that snuck into my aquarium. I'll see if i can find the link.

Nice was a little worried you were disappointed. You should have seen me when i started playing around with that stuff. I was so excited when got it to that point. It was when my plants really started to take of in the tank.

Cool on the gloves. You know better than me so i say your set. Yea the labs nice, i'm most definitely an artist, i need to be creative, but the draw of the factual definite nature of science is so hard to say no to. Biology is a nice blend of the two. :mr.green:

Alright, thats it. Cross your fingers for no more bugs. I had fungus gnats the one time that i used soil. It sucked because they came from the soil i used. They were in the stupid bag. Found that out because used the soil in emersed culture that i grew in which i keep the lid on all the time. Two weeks after the set up i took the lid off and stupid gnats.

GL

 

[drynroasty]

I believe the bug is a fungus gnat, they like moisture. Get some sticky paper, I need some also.

 

[jigfresh]

So I went to radio shack this morning and got a magnifier... Kinda sucks because the guy at the hydro store talked me out of the exact same one... and I like it so much better than the jewlers loupe I got instead.

Anyhow... I was about right on my estimate, now I can be sure...

From the leaf in the very center, I see about 30% Amber, 50% cloudy, and 20% clear.

The outer trichs (from the side of the room) appear to be about 50% coudy, 50% clear with no amber... I guess I will be harvesting in segments?

And I'll pick me up some sticky tape... thanks roast.

 

[jigfresh]

Update on the trichs... I've spent some time looking and things are farther along than I thought.

I'd say the buds in the middle are 50% amber 40% cloudy... and the buds around the outside are 20% Amber 70% Cloudy.

I'm in the process of fixing the bubbles...

And I'm going to do a rez change and add gravity.

The guy at the hydro store says to keep the additives at 100% just to cut the base nutes (Advance Flower A+B).

I really want to show you guys pics of the trichs, but can't figure out how to get a good pic... my camera auto focuses away from anything useful. The one bad thing about the camera is the damn auto-focus...

I swear, the things I complain about.

I bowl of the "Snow Wreck" should help things nicely.

I really wish you all could be up here with me today... it is just PERFECT... and I got 3 new strains from the co-op.

Peace brothers (and sisters if your out there).

EDIT: I had my wife take a look through the scope... I did not tell her what I saw, so no influence... she saw 30% Amber most the way around, with some of the buds out of direct light having no Amber trichs yet... My head hurts now so I can't look anymore, haha. I'm obsessed with trich, sorry if it's annoying. I'm guessing things will be done in a week or so... that would be 3 weeks early from the 'flower time' everyone states for my strains.

 

[ganjaboii024]

Update on the trichs... I've spent some time looking and things are farther along than I thought.

I'd say the buds in the middle are 50% amber 40% cloudy... and the buds around the outside are 20% Amber 70% Cloudy.

I'm in the process of fixing the bubbles...

And I'm going to do a rez change and add gravity.

The guy at the hydro store says to keep the additives at 100% just to cut the base nutes (Advance Flower A+B).

I really want to show you guys pics of the trichs, but can't figure out how to get a good pic... my camera auto focuses away from anything useful. The one bad thing about the camera is the damn auto-focus...

I swear, the things I complain about.

I bowl of the "Snow Wreck" should help things nicely.

I really wish you all could be up here with me today... it is just PERFECT... and I got 3 new strains from the co-op.

Peace brothers (and sisters if your out there).

EDIT: I had my wife take a look through the scope... I did not tell her what I saw, so no influence... she saw 30% Amber most the way around, with some of the buds out of direct light having no Amber trichs yet... My head hurts now so I can't look anymore, haha. I'm obsessed with trich, sorry if it's annoying. I'm guessing things will be done in a week or so... that would be 3 weeks early from the 'flower time' everyone states for my strains.

check to see if the camera has a setting for manual focus, just make sure to keep a steady hand when you take the snapshot

other than that it sounds like things are coming along great
looking forward to see the harvest

 

[lilmafia513]

Hey jig.
The bug looked like a gnat, like roast said. Those glue traps are great, just lay them ontop of the soil, or medium, and they stick right to it.

On the trichs, its anybodys guess, there could even be a reflection or glare from the light on the trichs. making them look more clear. I would say double check and wait a week. If you think they look ready wait one - two weeks and you'll be happy. In the meantime, start flushing with the G.
Add half the reccomended dosage from the bottle of the G. Only use it twice, and never back to back uses, it will fry the plants.
Overdose signs are rusty leaf edges. If this happens, give a light flush,not much, to rinse SOME out....not all.

Let me know how it goes.Good Luck man!
lilmafia

 

[jigfresh]

Thanks alot lilmafia...

The G has entered the rez.

I haven't even used it yet, but I think I will be happy, and I think next grow I will try bushmaster and purple max too.

 

[lilmafia513]

Thanks alot lilmafia...

The G has entered the rez.

I haven't even used it yet, but I think I will be happy, and I think next grow I will try bushmaster and purple max too.

I hear good things about both the bushmaster and purple.
Only used the G though. It is a wonder so i can only imagine what the other two can do with the G.
Watch it throughout the next few days closely, to make sure you catch early signs of overdose. It doesnt take much. And you can watch the buds swell everyday more and more.
Good luck to ya!
lilmafia

 

[ganjaboii024]

Thanks alot lilmafia...

The G has entered the rez.

I haven't even used it yet, but I think I will be happy, and I think next grow I will try bushmaster and purple max too.

there seems to be some debate over weather gravity or any other hardener actually creates more trics or just adds weight to the plant material on the bud
i want to beleive that it aids in tric production so its making the bud more potent instead of just adding plant weight cuz i want to use either gravity or some other similar product next grow but ill have to do some more research into it since im on a budget and im growing for personal use i care about having great potent bud not just more weight

 

[jigfresh]

there seems to be some debate over weather gravity or any other hardener actually creates more trics or just adds weight to the plant material on the bud
i want to beleive that it aids in tric production so its making the bud more potent instead of just adding plant weight cuz i want to use either gravity or some other similar product next grow but ill have to do some more research into it since im on a budget and im growing for personal use i care about having great potent bud not just more weight

Some time, maybe 3rd grow, I want to run 2 identical dwc's next to each other so I can run true side by side comparisons with the same conditions and such. The only bummer is that to measure the productivity of any one product you have to only change that one product for the whole grow. It would be bad ass to have like 6 identical setups and try different stuff... you would have to be getting paid for all that, talk about alot to keep track of.

Thanks for the input.

Oh, and I've been trying pictures with my wifes camera, she has manual focus, only problem is her camera is sorta broken and turns off alot.

I also don't know if I will ever get you guys good trich pictures... it really sucks. I'm going to keep trying though.

 

[josh4321]

hey bro have you taken any new pics im about 5 weeks ou ton cutting my self i cant wate to see update pics of your plants

 

[smoote1987]

Some time, maybe 3rd grow, I want to run 2 identical dwc's next to each other so I can run true side by side comparisons with the same conditions and such. The only bummer is that to measure the productivity of any one product you have to only change that one product for the whole grow. It would be bad ass to have like 6 identical setups and try different stuff... you would have to be getting paid for all that, talk about alot to keep track of.

Thanks for the input.

Oh, and I've been trying pictures with my wifes camera, she has manual focus, only problem is her camera is sorta broken and turns off alot.

I also don't know if I will ever get you guys good trich pictures... it really sucks. I'm going to keep trying though.

Just get six indvidual buckets and put one clone in each. Wait I just ordered 6 new buckets, mmmmm... why'd you just put that idea in my head.

 

[jigfresh]

Just get six indvidual buckets and put one clone in each. Wait I just ordered 6 new buckets, mmmmm... why'd you just put that idea in my head.

I'm in trouble now... haha.

How's this... I'll spring for some of the experimental materials if it means more experiments?

I'll take pics right now for you guys... while I fill up the rez.

 

[jordisgarden]

best of luck with the grow bro....

 

[jigfresh]

here are some pics... I snapped until my camera ran out of batteries.

I'm busy so I'm not really going through them... they might suck.

DAY 35 of 12/12

 

[jordisgarden]

absolutly beutiful. that is a major kick ass quality grow my man. all your hard work is paying off...you should feel proud as hell

 

[lilmafia513]

there seems to be some debate over weather gravity or any other hardener actually creates more trics or just adds weight to the plant material on the bud
i want to beleive that it aids in tric production so its making the bud more potent instead of just adding plant weight cuz i want to use either gravity or some other similar product next grow but ill have to do some more research into it since im on a budget and im growing for personal use i care about having great potent bud not just more weight

No debate on my end.....I did not use G on the first grow, untill a good friend recommended it. I used it on two plants...(Lucy) and (Cryptonite)....in the journal....and not the other plants.
Lucy and cryptonite gave me the fatter, denser, better tasting buds. The rest produced lesser yield, and were more airy buds. Also the taste was more on the harsher side.
All plants flushed, harvested, dried, and cured the same way, and friends, as well as myself, preffered the buds that came from the G plants.
I'm convinced!!LOL!!!
lilmafia

Some time, maybe 3rd grow, I want to run 2 identical dwc's next to each other so I can run true side by side comparisons with the same conditions and such. The only bummer is that to measure the productivity of any one product you have to only change that one product for the whole grow. It would be bad ass to have like 6 identical setups and try different stuff... you would have to be getting paid for all that, talk about alot to keep track of.

Thanks for the input.

Oh, and I've been trying pictures with my wifes camera, she has manual focus, only problem is her camera is sorta broken and turns off alot.

I also don't know if I will ever get you guys good trich pictures... it really sucks. I'm going to keep trying though.

You need to do that with the bush master, G ,Purple Maxx.
I'd watch it, hell i like those side by side journals!

here are some pics... I snapped until my camera ran out of batteries.

I'm busy so I'm not really going through them... they might suck.

DAY 35 of 12/12

Very nice jig!! Wasn't expecting to see that in those pics. For some reason I thought you had a much smaller crappy grow....... i was wrong there!LOL!!!!!


Edit: I cant give ya' rep yet, but you at least deserve a +rep on the post man!!!!!