SOG / avereage weight per plant

bgmike8

bgmike8

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born2killspam said:
Yea that would be fine.. Vegging doesn't take that much.. T5's won't grow them as fast as HID, but you can find your correct scheduling for your desired final size I'm sure..
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i hope that is true because i dont want to make puny plants that dond yield as much. i dont mind the time issue because ill have two months to get a couple hundred clones.

how much electricity is too much ?? im thinking ill be afe with 2 1000 and my t5 probably 36 kwh a day??
 
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born2killspam

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Thats what I would generally say is safe for the average house assuming they aren't watching you due to another leak.. 2500W ontop of typical usage will make that thing spin pretty fast, but it won't trigger anything at the electric company..
Smart metering on the other hand makes me nervous.. If they wanted to they could really peg the average grower with that..
 
bgmike8

bgmike8

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i really dont see how they could obtain a search warrant though. you are allowed to use as much electric as you can pay for and you could be growing anything legal.
 
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matthughes68

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born2killspam said:
With just over 50W/sqft mixed HPS/MH, I used to get about 60g/sqft.. But the plant I cloned from was a monster yielder in its own right.. 4x2 isn't the best dimension for effective use of a single light either, but 2 250W HPS could be sweet in there.. 1lb crops are doable in that area with the right equipment, genetics, and a little bit of practise..
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yea i would be using a high yielding plant as well if i were to do it, however i'm still new to this, and i'm trying to learn as much as possible. so in a 4x2 area how many plants on avg would you say is necessary to yield 2 lbs? i've seen seemorebuds yield 6 lbs in a 6x4 area with 200-300 plants in 2inch cups and about 4 x 600whps lights. so i was assuming a 4x2 area can yield 2 lbs with about 70-100 plants. what do you think?
 
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born2killspam

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You want 113.5g/sqft?? Don't set yourself up to fail.. Get a few small easy crops under your belt.. The setup to pull that off must be ridonkulously well designed with all the bells & whistles to effectively use 100W/sqft.. Once you know what you're doing, maybe you can drop 20k on a growroom, and match those numbers..
 
bgmike8

bgmike8

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i have seemorebuds vopl1-3 as well. i think one thing you have to keep in mind is that he was using aeroponics. he also had 4 600 watts light for every 6x4 area so i thinki its more of a plant per light watts. he didnt use co2 either which should offer some hope if you intend to use co2. i have built a homemade aeroponics system that holds 40 2inch net pots. im wondering if i could get the same yield with 40 2inchers as i could with 40 plants in 4inch cubes on top of slabs in a tray. my thinking is that it is all about the root mass and there will be a great root mass hanging down in the tub, maybe even better than a 4inch on a slab.???
 
Lobo69

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Without getting 2 involved...I'd have to say under reasonable conditions(decent yielding strain; temps, humidity, PH, PPM all at good levels...3/4 an ounce per plant...Using the CO2 could easily increase your yield by a lot.
 
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matthughes68

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Lobo69 said:
Without getting 2 involved...I'd have to say under reasonable conditions(decent yielding strain; temps, humidity, PH, PPM all at good levels...3/4 an ounce per plant...Using the CO2 could easily increase your yield by a lot.
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i'm thinking of building my own 4x2 cabinet (not sure how high I will make it yet) and hanging maybe 1 or 2 lights in there with approximately 500-600 w hps in total and hooking up a c02 tank to it. How much of a difference will a c02 tank make approximately (assuming reasonable conditions)?? There will be around 70-100 plants in there inside 2 inch cups.
Also I still haven't decided between using an aero or drip method....

What do you guys think?
btw, thanks for all the help so far!
 
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born2killspam

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CO2 effect will depend on how pegged the rest of your setup is.. If you don't have a kickass setup, CO2 won't help as much as it could..
 
grayalien

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chill all. I'm amazed about the hostility surrounding the subject of "W" these days. I always used to enjoy the peace man stuff!
 
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PotHead3

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I will try and make the most simple way to answer this unanswerable question so people may actually realize what they ask is pointless.
scrog 1 plant under a 1k light in optimal conditions and depending on strain lets say i get 24 oz
i scrog 4 plants same under 1k light i get 24 oz
i scrog 24 plants under 1k light i will still get 24 oz
people who say they get this amount per plant is a showoff that only wants to gain reputation points from noobs that don't know any better.
What really counts is how much weight you can pull from a certain sqft and how much less time you need lights on
in other words i can say i vegged 4 plants scrog for 2 months and flowered in 2 months under 4 lights can say he got 1.8 lbs per plant but that is pointless waste of time just to show off the fact you grew a plant with 24oz lbs of bud! You know whats better, getting 1 ounce per plant with no veg time done in 2 months worth of 1k light and getting the same yield. more harvest per year per spacing.
Granted its hard to go with that many clones but vegging longer is not good as time+sqft is also costly. everyone should consider this before putting any money in design of their grow style.

i usually do 9 plants per light with 2 weeks veg but if i could i would do 16 per light and get as much canopy as i can
 
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PotHead3

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MrStickyScissors said:
I'm going with 90 plants in 2 gallon buckets on a 12 foot long by 5 foot wide table with six 1,000 watt hps over it. I'm aiming for 1.25 oz a plant
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you are aiming to get over 7 lbs in an area that fits about 4 lbs and you are using 6 1000 watters in a spaces made for 2 1000 watters and you are trying to go by calculating per plant weight... good luck. in 2 months you will be back wondering where you went wrong.

you are gonna get very bad gpw (or how i like to say gram per 1000 watter)

with that much light you are using you gonna have do much heat trouble and shit that you won't even yield what you could have in the amount of space that you are using.
its better off you make 3 12x5 rooms and split those lights up. after this basic shit i just told you. comes how you can manage the rest of the grow. if you do ok you should get 6lbs minimum if you do good you might get 8 if you the shit then you might get close to 12( 12 meaning you have everything perfect with c02 and all that good stuff.)

If i used your logic which seems to say, "more lights equal more weight" why don't you just use 6 in a 5x5 table. sounds dumb doesnt it. Im not trying to shit on you bro, but when i was learning i had to filter all the bs advice from people saying similar things to what your saying and it seems that basically everyone on this forum makes it seem as its true. Hope you realize this and rethink and redo your grow before you mess this one up and spend so much on a learning curve.
 
MrStickyScissors

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PotHead3 said:
you are aiming to get over 7 lbs in an area that fits about 4 lbs and you are using 6 1000 watters in a spaces made for 2 1000 watters and you are trying to go by calculating per plant weight... good luck. in 2 months you will be back wondering where you went wrong.

you are gonna get very bad gpw (or how i like to say gram per 1000 watter)

with that much light you are using you gonna have do much heat trouble and shit that you won't even yield what you could have in the amount of space that you are using.
its better off you make 3 12x5 rooms and split those lights up. after this basic shit i just told you. comes how you can manage the rest of the grow. if you do ok you should get 6lbs minimum if you do good you might get 8 if you the shit then you might get close to 12( 12 meaning you have everything perfect with c02 and all that good stuff.)

If i used your logic which seems to say, "more lights equal more weight" why don't you just use 6 in a 5x5 table. sounds dumb doesnt it. Im not trying to shit on you bro, but when i was learning i had to filter all the bs advice from people saying similar things to what your saying and it seems that basically everyone on this forum makes it seem as its true. Hope you realize this and rethink and redo your grow before you mess this one up and spend so much on a learning curve.
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how do you figure a 12 foot by 5 foot space is ment for 2, 1,000 watt lights? wtf? 4x4 for each 1k so at the very least 3, 1k's heres a pic of the space that will produce more than 4 pounds garunteed, I can pull 4 pounds off a 4x8 space
 

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MrStickyScissors

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lmao three 12x5 rooms to pull 6 pounds min. wtf. that's the craziest shit I have heard in a while. I will pull at least 18 pounds out of that much space. where are you from?
 
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