1st Grow - Client / Server model, perpetual, Top44 & Citral

ElephantRider

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np, bro! Jack Herer?? That's a lucky score. That didn't come out of your case, did it?

I'm never doing Citral again. Hard as hell to clone, apparently, VERY nute finnicky. Maybe it'll respond better to hydro in a couple months (hopefully).

Also, since Beatrice is getting close to done, I'm going to announce that I'm closing down after she's whacked. This grow journal has served its purpose for me and I'll be moving to a more organized and formal grow log somehow. I'll still be on for issues, but that's about it, really.

Anyone guestimate how long I should flush for?
 

v12xjs

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Hey ER. Sorry to hear you're closing down the journal. It will be missed.
Yes, the Jack came from the case. It's been busy since you last saw it. Amongst other stuff I've got a skunk haze in there now. 11 weeks of flowering. Should be interesting :)
There's nothing worse than all your new buds being filled with nutes. I wouldn't give less than 10 days flushing even for my tiddlers. 2 weeks is what I usually aim for though.

I just posted a pic of a nug I was tooting on last night. Don't know if it's an ERSB or a Jack Herrer pheno. What do you think?
https://www.rollitup.org/members/v12xjs-albums-results-picture59107-sketzoh-junior-looks-outstanding-smells.html
 

ElephantRider

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Yer tellin' me Sketzoh was a Jack Herer?? Man! I don't know Jacks well enough to call that. You show me a Kush or a Diesel or White and I know it. That's mostly the families I've had over the past 10 years. Berries and Skunks Get sprinkled in here and there. BigBud is available anywhere, too. That's the most common commercial here, that I'm aware of. I am totally growing out all my strains, too. Even if I can go medical, I'll spring all of them. Even the "crappy" G13 stuff I have. V.. you ever grow anything by g13 labs? Also.. your manicuring is badass! That all scissors?
 

dopewear

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hey ele sorry to hear about your journal closing ill be looking forward yo your next organized grow log in hydro? if i read correctly... thatll be exciting! let us know how the harvest of your little ones go?
 

ElephantRider

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Oh yeah.. I will definitely put my pc results up in the 'what's possible' section of pc growers gang.. or if we get our board up. If things go fully legal here, I likely won't journal all of that, but I may do an aeroponics journal on ramping things up. ;) I still need to do some research on which method will best do yield.
 

v12xjs

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That manicuring was just me and my scissors :)
Any time I take scissors to a plant it dies. Maybe I should rename myself sweeny todd :)

The UK company that produces Sativex was featured in a documentary on tv recently. Their grow factory setup was most interesting. They only use clones in hydro under hps. I was stunned to see that they also had everything in a scrog! I'll try to find a link for you.
 

ElephantRider

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Flower Tower:
Beatrice: 76 days, 12/12 55 days, flowering 38 days
Jenna: 12/12 from seed, 53 days, flowering 21 days
Christy: 12/12 from seed, 53 days, flowering 14 days.

Veg. Box:
Citral #1: 18/6 or 24/0, 76 days
Twilight #1: 18/6, 19 days
Passion #1 #1: 18/6, 18 days
Nikki: Zenbud rooted clone, 14 days

Not a ton today. Beatrice is purpling like crazy and not very thirsty. I will begin flushing today and let her run a week over. June 5th is the date of choppage! Jenna looks fucking awesome! Her smell is starting to come forward a bit and it occurred to me that it's also possible that she's AK-47. I haven't had AKs since '03 or so, but it's still possible. I separated my garbage seeds from my premium finds over the past 10 years or so. I had maybe 100 garbage seeds and only about 10 premium. Jenna was a premium. I can't wait to taste! Christy seems to be recovering a little after heavy flushing, but it's very slow going and her buds seem to have just stopped fattening.

In the veg. case, the Twilight is just gigantic.. and its cotyledons aren't even looking yellow at all. Since I can't flower it any time soon, I'm gonna try cloning it. I got my makeshift humidity domes to maybe help that process. We'll see if the Citral clones work with it. They're still sitting alive on the windowsill, but no new growth. Humidity is the last ingredient I have yet to add in my cloning attempts.
 

v12xjs

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Hey ER

Great update. Things not going too well with the Passion?
Sounds like some of the other girls are making up for it though :)
I get the impression from some of your posts that the big plans have been shelved and you're sticking with the pc cases for now. Did the state not vote as you hoped?
I got that link for the huge scrog grow. Maybe not so useful to you now, but interesting anyway, so here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l55mt0kJ9iY
 

dopewear

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hey ele glad to hear everything is going okay sorry about hearing your big plans getting shafted for the time being.
and v. that video is amazing! i want to live there and sleep on a bud bed.
 

ElephantRider

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dope vid! Yeah.. I dunno about growin' big. The vote hasn't been yet. I'm just shaky because Obama promised no more raids on dispensaries and it continues to happen. That's all. If it's legal, I'll do well for me. Just not big. :)
 

v12xjs

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Hope it works out.
In UK they just changed it from class c to class b with virtually no medical exemptions.
Annoying then that some company can grow so much and flog it to Canada np.
 

ElephantRider

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The first few pics.. a taste of what's to come. I have a lot of topping, etc and rapidly growing plants. I also have roots on my first twilight clone. I put up a shot of the ghetto cloner.. especially for v12. :) None of the shots get the roots, but they are definitely there. I think the clone is destined for the great outdoors. I've been hiking. :)

Then, the girls. Damnit, I love that Jenna. To think that such a tiny, tiny seedling could make all that gorgeous plant is beyond me. I can't count all of the budsites because I'm not sure which ones will phase together just yet, however, I stopped counting at 17. Beatrice is fat. :) She's getting really dense. Squeezing that mass.. it's just SOLID. She looks like The Joker with all that purple and dark green! Then, sad Christy. She's recovering from being badly burned.
 

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v12xjs

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Wow.
Looks fab in there ER. Seems you have most of the nute problems behind you now too as they are all looking pretty lush and healthy.
So is it a race against time now to get them chopped before the big vacation?
 

ElephantRider

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That's right, v12. :) I will be re-vegging that crazy Sativa, for sure. I need clones of it and should have more space once things go outside a little more. Since my babies will be with my best friend while I'm away on that vaca, I'll be putting some things into flower after all.
 

ElephantRider

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Thanks for that, my friend. How much plant matter did you leave at the bottom after harvest? It looks awesome, by the way. Nice thing about cloning for us is that we can do it all damned summer on patios or in windowsills in the Northern hemisphere, right? I lost another Citral clone this morning.. that's something like 5 clones dead.. and one more to be dead shortly. I will try my Twilight method on the citral soon, since 'big citral' looks about ready to spawn off 4 more clones, which will give it 8 tops total. If it's a male after all this, I'll be unhappy. :)
 

floridasucks

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damm i havent seen this for a while. looks like things are going good. that one, i think beatrice is lookin really nice. what strain is that?
 

ElephantRider

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damm i havent seen this for a while. looks like things are going good. that one, i think beatrice is lookin really nice. what strain is that?
The fat-ass? That's Top44.. a "commercial" strain, if you can believe it. :) I just can't believe how dense that nugget is. It'll easily last me months, since I'm still a light smoker these days. I'm just praying I don't fuck up the drying / curing process, at this point. I'll be turning an old 486 computer case into a hanging bud dryer, if I can, and that might take some getting used to.
 

v12xjs

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Another case???
What on earth do you do with all the internals ER? :)

I hung my last 2 harvests and left all the non crusty fan leaves on for 1 of them. That cure looks average but is very good flavour. Potency always seems to take a big improvement after 21 days in my experience too, so hang on to some if you can.

I dug out a pic of Pandora just after I harvested so you can see what I left on:
http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu351/v12xjs/P1020776.jpg
 
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