First grow!! (Building Process)

[Original420]

Yeah the highest i could find where 5500k Daylight Cfl but they seem to working just fine at the moment. Each little sprout is getting bigger ivery time i look at it haha. Also while im at home depot today anyone know of nutes that they might sell there that i should get to save me and extra trip later on. And i told my mom i was growing we had this whole project going that i was making a cabinet for storage and she totally baught it. Then i could hold myself back and i told her i wanna show her my finished product and that she couldnt get mad at what was in it. She though i had my dads Miniature alcohol bottels in it haha. but when i showed her She was more afraid of getting caught then anything. but i calmed her down told her me and her are the only ones that know and that no one else will know. Her and my dad where huge hippies back in the day as a matter of fact i have a picture of my dad with an Afro and a weed leef on his shirt. But she was telling me that shes seen ppl get arrested for growing so it scared me a little but i know that no one else can possibly find out unless i physically show them.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

you should definatly install the fan to push air into the box.. the fan at the top isnt enough to pull as much fresh air in as you want...

i wouldnt use the aquarium lights.. just get a couple smaller cfls for the side lighting... it'll pay off in the end.. you dont need to worry about it for a couple weeks tho... even if its only during flowering...

glad your rents are cool with things... just be careful!

 

[Original420]

Awesome i went to Home depot got 2 14 watt CFL's i was looking to see if i could find bulbs to git the Aquarium lights but they didnt have the right size there and the color spectrum only went up to 4500. I was thinking when it comes time to change to the lower 2500 bulbs should i use the Aquarium lights then? or are they just not the right kind all around. Il post pics when i get these other 2 lights and the fan installed. Also what humidity is best for the plants right now its at about 56% and when i water them it goes up to about 60.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

Awesome i went to Home depot got 2 14 watt CFL's i was looking to see if i could find bulbs to git the Aquarium lights but they didnt have the right size there and the color spectrum only went up to 4500. I was thinking when it comes time to change to the lower 2500 bulbs should i use the Aquarium lights then? or are they just not the right kind all around. Il post pics when i get these other 2 lights and the fan installed. Also what humidity is best for the plants right now its at about 56% and when i water them it goes up to about 60.

dont know too much about aquarium lights.. but i wouldnt imagine that they are good for growing purposes... i would stick to cfls if you are trying to do a small stealth grow...

as far as humidity goes your about perfect.. i like the 40 to 60% range personally... just make sure if it gets higher than that you have really good air exchange going on... if its over a period of time.. like 3 or more days or 65% or more humidity

 

[Original420]

Alrighty then im going to wire these other 2 CFL's up and cut a hole for the fan ill post pics when im done. Also i plan to go back to homedepot or lowes to get soil to move these babies into once they start getting bigger any suggestions on what brand soil i should get. Right now they are in Miracle Grow seed starting potting mix that has a 0.5-0.1-0.5 ratio. Maybe i should just get another bag of it to plant them into bigger pots with??

 

[Original420]

Ok i put the lights in and Drilled holes for the fan and attached it to the door so now air is flowing nicely. And the 2 lights are hooked up and work perfectly.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

i personally do not like miracle grow.. reason being this.. if you use mg soil, everytime you water nutes are released... you have no control over how much or how little is released.. they just are.. this can lead to nute burn or plant death if you are not careful... imho i would invest in the best possible "plain" potting soil you can find.. mix in about 15% to 30% perlite (little white foam ball looking things you see in some soil mixes) for aeration, drainage, and moisture retention.. and get some decent nutes if you can... that will depend on the money you have tho.. if you want to use mg soil, you can, just make sure you get the potting soil and mix it at least 50/50 with some regular potting soil to thin it out.. then you wont need to feed any nutes to your girls for the first 3 or 4 weeks of growth more than likely.. just be careful if you do use mg...

 

[thelastpirate]

I wont have to worry about my parents they both know i smoke and are completey fine with it. Also i plan on telling them after the plant has started flowering. And the smell i will make a carbon filter later on when i get some more $$. Also im trying to get pics up but im having a little trouble with it lol.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you're pretty young (Not that that's a BAD thing)
Your mom and dad are probably OK with you smoking and all, but are they willing to let you risk the family home in pursuit of your passion? Telling them about it "after the fact" is kinda dick in my book. Best to be up front with them. Forewarned is foreknowledge. They would have a better chance of dealing with the fall out if they are FULLY aware of all that's going on.

With that being said, Dude I am impressed all to hell!!! It looks like you've done your homework, you've put some thought into this, and you gots skillz. Most of the time I see a lot of folks who decide to do this on a whim, having never even grown a Lima bean in school, come to the forums all but wanting someone to grow it for them.
Everything you and your friends have heard about growing, you can just forget. Here, the truth shall be revealed.
If you're looking for guidance, find yourself no more than two folks whose opinions you trust (that would involve hanging around, reading a lot and watching their grows) Too much input and you'll overload. Try it one way, if that don't work, try another. There are a whole lot of ways to do this and achieve the same wonderful end result.

Dude, by all means, please hang out!! I'm looking forward to seeing this finish out.

Please don't be offended, but just how old are you? Lots of us here are older than the dirt we grow in. (I was there when mine was being made!!) I take into consideration age and mindset when I meet people. It gives you a pretty good idea of maturity level, and from all appearances, you'll do well.

 

[Original420]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you're pretty young (Not that that's a BAD thing)
Your mom and dad are probably OK with you smoking and all, but are they willing to let you risk the family home in pursuit of your passion? Telling them about it "after the fact" is kinda dick in my book. Best to be up front with them. Forewarned is foreknowledge. They would have a better chance of dealing with the fall out if they are FULLY aware of all that's going on.

With that being said, Dude I am impressed all to hell!!! It looks like you've done your homework, you've put some thought into this, and you gots skillz. Most of the time I see a lot of folks who decide to do this on a whim, having never even grown a Lima bean in school, come to the forums all but wanting someone to grow it for them.
Everything you and your friends have heard about growing, you can just forget. Here, the truth shall be revealed.
If you're looking for guidance, find yourself no more than two folks whose opinions you trust (that would involve hanging around, reading a lot and watching their grows) Too much input and you'll overload. Try it one way, if that don't work, try another. There are a whole lot of ways to do this and achieve the same wonderful end result.

Dude, by all means, please hang out!! I'm looking forward to seeing this finish out.

Please don't be offended, but just how old are you? Lots of us here are older than the dirt we grow in. (I was there when mine was being made!!) I take into consideration age and mindset when I meet people. It gives you a pretty good idea of maturity level, and from all appearances, you'll do well.

Well i thank you for your consideration in. Ive read up on most of Sampsons grows he does it pretty large as me im kinda keeping it small. ill have to look into your grows now that your commending me on my skill haha. And i thank you again for that, i do my homework before i get into things and im very crafty, the reason i didnt tell my parents till after is you know you always have the one feeling thats telling you What If... and this is how i decided to overcome that i know my parent where huge hippies back in the day and im sure one of them tried or grew in atleast on point of their lives. So im sure they understand what im doing. Everytime i mention how its going to my mom she tells me they grow better outside and there happens to be a very large wooded area across from me so maybe one day ill test it out back there. As far as my age goes im 18 i guess you can say im young if your comparing me to 30 or 40 year olds. But with age comes experience. So im glad to have the imput of you and sampson. Take care and i plan to post atleast once a day of how things are going.

 

[LoverOfTheFruit]

lol im growing mine in my parents house aswell, but they said it is alrightuntil they start smelling then there going, like that gunna happen

 

[Original420]

Yep all you need to do is make a carbon filter haha cheap and easy i personally like this one https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/101248-best-diy-ez-walmart-carbon.html

 

[Original420]

Ok an update on my little seedlings they are growing well its about week 2 now and they are starting to grow their 3rd set of leaves. and i now have proper ventilation i added a fan to the bottom to pull air in. its running a bit hot in there today its at 85F but i think its because our Air conditioning doesnt work tomorrow someone is comming to fix it so the temp should drop down. Oh and dont worry about the white specs on the leaves its just saw dust that seems to keep getting in there.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

looking good bro.. they will get there.. just keep it up.. i would recommend filling the cups up with soil vs only 1/2 full.. it will just give them more root space to grow before you transplant them... or if you can just start them on in 1 gallon pots (which i assume you are going to use??) to begin with.. it will make them happier and you wont have to move them later!

 

[Original420]

That sounds like a great idea but first i have to go to the hydroponics store which i found was pretty close to me, so im going to go there today or tomorrow and get either Black gold or Fox farms with some perlite and move them. Now also my box is about 11"x11" which means i could only fit one 8" pot in there, would it not be smart to plant all three in the same pot and water it 3 times as much? or should i look for some smaller 4 or 5inch pots and use them the whole way. Thanks for the help.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

alright.. i am a fewer and bigger kind of guy.. so my answer is going to very one sided.. but ill answer you anyways... first you definatly should NOT throw them all in one pot... that would be a bad idea.... especially if you dont know sex and you go to remove a male and they are all root bound and shit...
personally i would get 1 pot and only grow 1 plant... that is if you know you can get a female... either fem'd seeds or a fem clone... that way you have all that light you can concentrate on 1 plant and it can grow larger because it has more room... you can also choose to run 4 smaller straight to 12/12 clones if you can take clones from a female you end up with from this run.... but either way you will need to get smaller pots for sure and transplant these... are you planning on cloning at all anyways?? like i said my vote would be for you to root a clone off of a female you get from this run and only grow the 1 female...

 

[Original420]

Yeah these are just bag seed from when me and my friend smoke we just collected them up, so i really have no idea which of these 3 are male and which are female, if i knew which one was female that would be the only plant inside the box. And if i do get a female out of these thhen yes i will be cloning it. Also is there someway i can store the other 2 plants and keep them at their current stage for a month or 2 so i can focus my effort into one and hope its a female? or is there a way to stop the flowering stage once you start it. I was thinking i could get 5inch pots transplant each of them and in another 2 weeks or so throw em into flowering to see what sex they are then take them back to veg, but im not sure if thats possible, maybe i should ivest my time into making a large box in the mean time. but im not sure if i want to go through all of that again.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

Yeah these are just bag seed from when me and my friend smoke we just collected them up, so i really have no idea which of these 3 are male and which are female, if i knew which one was female that would be the only plant inside the box. And if i do get a female out of these thhen yes i will be cloning it. Also is there someway i can store the other 2 plants and keep them at their current stage for a month or 2 so i can focus my effort into one and hope its a female? or is there a way to stop the flowering stage once you start it. I was thinking i could get 5inch pots transplant each of them and in another 2 weeks or so throw em into flowering to see what sex they are then take them back to veg, but im not sure if thats possible, maybe i should ivest my time into making a large box in the mean time. but im not sure if i want to go through all of that again.

ok.. what you are wanting to do with stalling veg or going from veg to flower to veg isnt worth the time.. and will lead to a lot of plant stress... i am 90% sure at least 1 of the ones you have going is a female... so here is my suggestion... once you flower them and see sex take a couple cuttings from the female and root them then.. that way you know they are female for sure.. and of course remove the males.. make sure to take a couple cuttings in case one doesnt make it... and if they all survive keep the best looking on and grow it... a bigger box isnt needed if you are only going to grow one.. maybe work on a small clone area or something for your cuttings when you take them tho...

 

[Original420]

So for now i should go with the 3 5inch pots and grow all three to the flower stage to determine their sex and then take the best looking female of the three if there is more than one female and clone that one, Then i can start on the clones once the other female(s) have been harvested.

 

[Original420]

Ok so tomorrow i am going to plant each of them into new pots, im going to the hydroponics store and getting either black gold or fox farms soil most likely going to get the cheaper of the two. Each of the three sprouts seem to be doing well even tho the third one seems to be growing a bit slow then the others but im sure itl catch up. Also so i dont make a mistake tomorrow when i transplant these, i just cut away the excess cup down to the dirt carfully so i dont snip the plant. then i place the plant between my ring finger and my middle finger, turn the cup upside down and tap on the bottom until it comes loose. Now heres the part im not sure of, when i go to put it in the other pot do i shake all the dirt off of the roots? or do i just put it in the pot with the dirt and everything. Im assuming that i go with the dirt and all but i just want to be sure.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

yeah... you can take the clones during the 5th or 6th week of flowering.. it will take about the 2 or 3 weeks it takes the flowering plants to finish before the clones have roots... which should work out perfect as far as timing goes...