IndicaFatnHeavy
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name under ur pics which plant is which...
Blue Cheese, PPP, Thai SS...Jerry's Second Grow
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Jerry Garcia
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The last pics are of 4 bagseed plants I've had going for a little while now. The blue cheese, PPP, and Thai Super Skunk are all labeled in my previous update.
Thanks for stopping by!
hemphopper
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Hi Jerry,
My Blue Cheesey ladies, started June 11, feel a kinship with yours. Here's pictures from tonight - they are at day 10 of 12/12. I only have my one grow area for now and will see this crop all the way with fluoro T5. I've spent enough $ for now! Been having a small housefly invasion but sticky traps are getting them.
Have fun,
H
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Jerry Garcia
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Yo man, your plants look freaking awesome. I'm digging those grow bags too...something I may consider in the future.
It's quite reassuring to see you plants look so similar to mine...must mean the genetics are pretty stable in that they all look the same.
Keep those pics coming! I'm eager to see how they progress through flower!
Evil Buddies
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Is it those lil flies that lay eggs and live in the soil? If it is them u can put a layer of sand on top of ur soil then they wont be able to get to your soil.
Just out of interest does anyone know what the lil flies do in the soil. Do they eat the roots and damage the plant?
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hemphopper
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The little flies, which I do have as well as the house flies, I think are fungus gnats. People say they eat the roots when in the soil. I used Fox Farm Ocean Forest and I believe they may have been in the soil when I bought it. I'm gonna try the mosquito dunk solution if they get worse. A commercial grower I spoke to says they only eat fungus in the soil and that they do not damage his plants. He certainly has years of experience to draw on. My plants are healthy from what I can tell. But vigilance is always good. I see the sand remedy out there and I will try that next grow.
Peace,
H
hemphopper
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Thanks Jerry. Your experience is inspiring. I need to expand my set up for next grow and start to learn to take cuttings, set up a seperate flowering area and learn about trimmimg and training the plants.
Jerry Garcia
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I recommend the sand. It has worked wonders for my garden, though it tends to mix in with the soil around the top and edges of the pot, which can be a little annoying. Otherwise, it keeps those little flying things at bay.
You should PM babs and ask her about what she does with fungus gnats...LOL!
You should PM babs and ask her about what she does with fungus gnats...LOL!
Babs34
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Didn't we all know I would have my say?
Commercial grower or not, I'm going to have to strongly disagree that gnats do NOT do damage to your root system.
I have seen first hand the damage done. I recently repotted some house plants in hopes of getting rid of the old soil that had been invaded by these "things."
I know what those roots looked like from when I potted them first time around.....the root ball had all but disappeared on every plant.
Once again, I'm going to highly suggest you not just ignore them.
"Spoke my piece" and I won't even go on a neurotic tangent.....
hemphopper
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Yes, those little critters do make me nervous. I tried a layer of diatomaceous (spelling?) earth on top of the soil and that worked for a while. What's worked best for you once those bastards are there??Didn't we all know I would have my say?
Commercial grower or not, I'm going to have to strongly disagree that gnats do NOT do damage to your root system.
I have seen first hand the damage done. I recently repotted some house plants in hopes of getting rid of the old soil that had been invaded by these "things."
I know what those roots looked like from when I potted them first time around.....the root ball had all but disappeared on every plant.
Once again, I'm going to highly suggest you not just ignore them.
"Spoke my piece" and I won't even go on a neurotic tangent.....
H.
Babs34
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Hey Hemp....yeah, the sand works as a temporary solution but doesn't ever really completely resolve the problem itself. I tediously swab underneath my leaves with rubbing alcohol to kill the eggs. I used to do it weekly, but now check daily,
I know many say the quick and easy solution is Gnatrol. I don't know much about it other than it's expensive....but I will purchase should my efforts not take care of the problem.
I've also used the "fly ribbons".....the yellow sticky tape that you hang. I read somewhere on this forum that one guy tapes it around the perimeter of his plant--probably not a bad idea either. Notice when you water, they tend to take a walk on that very area.
My most recent attempt has been with the dunks. I was very wary in using--thinking it may hurt my plants. You can get these at Lowes for about 10 dollars. I just crumbled it up and applied on the surface of the soil. I also crumbled some up in my watering bottle.
I pull out my magnifying glass and peek a few inches into my soil on occasion. So far, so good.
I become somewhat demented in dealing with these lil shits. LOL, I should make a video of me loosing it.....I sit there and say "Haha you lil f'er......meet your maker."
LOL, I'm not right....but in the best of ways.
Oh, and let's not forget the Neem Oil. Use it while in veg though. I also used some stuff from Lowes--trying to remember the name---it's organic, picture of a tomato on it. I figured if it was good for tomatoes, it would work for what I was attempting to accomplish. I used that after 2 applications of the NEEM. You have to stay on top of it.
I will say that when using the organic spray from Lowes, I was devastated when I looked at the plants the next morning. They were drooping, basically looking as if they were in the process of dying. They perked right up within a couple of days. I don't suggest using it more than once.
I'm down to seeing an adult fly around on a rare occasion and finding hardly any eggs any longer---on the plants anyway. Who knows where else they may possibly lay their eggs?
Bear in mind though...one adult can lay as many as 1000 eggs in a lifetime.
I figure I have successfully killed at least a possible million.
Good luck!!!
I know many say the quick and easy solution is Gnatrol. I don't know much about it other than it's expensive....but I will purchase should my efforts not take care of the problem.
I've also used the "fly ribbons".....the yellow sticky tape that you hang. I read somewhere on this forum that one guy tapes it around the perimeter of his plant--probably not a bad idea either. Notice when you water, they tend to take a walk on that very area.
My most recent attempt has been with the dunks. I was very wary in using--thinking it may hurt my plants. You can get these at Lowes for about 10 dollars. I just crumbled it up and applied on the surface of the soil. I also crumbled some up in my watering bottle.
I pull out my magnifying glass and peek a few inches into my soil on occasion. So far, so good.
I become somewhat demented in dealing with these lil shits. LOL, I should make a video of me loosing it.....I sit there and say "Haha you lil f'er......meet your maker."
LOL, I'm not right....but in the best of ways.
Oh, and let's not forget the Neem Oil. Use it while in veg though. I also used some stuff from Lowes--trying to remember the name---it's organic, picture of a tomato on it. I figured if it was good for tomatoes, it would work for what I was attempting to accomplish. I used that after 2 applications of the NEEM. You have to stay on top of it.
I will say that when using the organic spray from Lowes, I was devastated when I looked at the plants the next morning. They were drooping, basically looking as if they were in the process of dying. They perked right up within a couple of days. I don't suggest using it more than once.
I'm down to seeing an adult fly around on a rare occasion and finding hardly any eggs any longer---on the plants anyway. Who knows where else they may possibly lay their eggs?
Bear in mind though...one adult can lay as many as 1000 eggs in a lifetime.
I figure I have successfully killed at least a possible million.
Good luck!!!
hemphopper
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Thanks Babs,
I have some sticky traps and they are helping. I'm blooming now so I do want to be careful. There's some beneficial nematodes from Gardens Alive that are supposed to eat the larvae in the soil. I'm tempted to try those as it sounds like a benign (at least for us) way to go. Probably a real Sci Fi nightmare for the varmints!
The Cheese Is Dank
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lookin forward to seein the results, how much growth was under the spot you topped when you origionally topped them?
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Jerry Garcia
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Hey Cheese, glad to have you along.
I left probably six nodes or so beneath where I topped, all very tightly spaced. Since topping the shoots have stretched out a little (probably just a result from the auxins [hormones] transferring from the top to the secondary branches forming my new colas).
The Cheese Is Dank
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nice, glad to hear they are doin fine, u gonna lolli pop them too? if so when? thanks
hemphopper
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Hey Jerry,
Regarding Lollipopping and trimming plants during budding, My box is getting real crowded and the Blue Cheese as you know so well, are fat bushy babies with some meat on their bones, not to mention the numerous side branches. So, I need to trim. I'm 2 weeks into flower with pistils on all growing tips. Is there anything to beware of in trimming the bottom 3 or 4 side branches off? Those tops aren't gonna make significant buds anyhow and the airflow will improve and I might gain enough space to hang some cfls for more lumens. Any advice is welcome. I probably shouldnt have tried putting 10 plants in a 2 X 4 X 6 box. A full house for sure.
Thanks, H
Regarding Lollipopping and trimming plants during budding, My box is getting real crowded and the Blue Cheese as you know so well, are fat bushy babies with some meat on their bones, not to mention the numerous side branches. So, I need to trim. I'm 2 weeks into flower with pistils on all growing tips. Is there anything to beware of in trimming the bottom 3 or 4 side branches off? Those tops aren't gonna make significant buds anyhow and the airflow will improve and I might gain enough space to hang some cfls for more lumens. Any advice is welcome. I probably shouldnt have tried putting 10 plants in a 2 X 4 X 6 box. A full house for sure.
Thanks, H
Babs34
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Hey Hemp...I'm just going to throw something out there. I used to do just that....take the bottom "few" branches off---and into the same stage of flowering. I don't believe I ever touched this particular one after 21/2 weeks. I did so for different reasons. I wanted my plants to look good :::rolling eyes::: My reason for doing so was not because they were even near dead. "Anyway"...I probably got somewhat lucky with a strain that had really strong genetics---because I stripped another one so many times during flower--and all throughout---that plant came out with only a few seeds.
The point is, it may---it may not---turn on you. I don't know though....never grown this strain. Maybe it can take a little more than the next. Personally, I wouldn't touch it.
The point is, it may---it may not---turn on you. I don't know though....never grown this strain. Maybe it can take a little more than the next. Personally, I wouldn't touch it.
hemphopper
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Thanks Babs - we'll do some bending tonight. here's 3 pics of these plants
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Jerry Garcia
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HH--The plants look great. I can they're a little over two weeks in 12/12 right? I can see they are doing some stretching (not bad stretching though...just natural stretching) but still look nice and compact.
The Cheese--I don't think I'm going to lollipop these, but that may be a road I go down with some clones. Four colas per pot X 8 pots in flower room = 32 colas in my tiny space. We'll see how it develops.
The Cheese--I don't think I'm going to lollipop these, but that may be a road I go down with some clones. Four colas per pot X 8 pots in flower room = 32 colas in my tiny space. We'll see how it develops.