drooping babies, hydro

[hater hurter]

first off, hello, im brand new and i have a problem, i have some week old babies that are hydro and are drooping. i have been using around 1/10th nute suggested for a full size plant and a 175mh bulb on them. now most are drooping after around a week of light past germ. there's 9 all together. i have flushed the system partially. i also added nutes in case it was a lack of. is this a ighting prob, nute prob or even overwatering possibly as i have run the water/air since they went into the net pots 24/7. help quick!

 

[doc111]

first off, hello, im brand new and i have a problem, i have some week old babies that are hydro and are drooping. i have been using around 1/10th nute suggested for a full size plant and a 175mh bulb on them. now most are drooping after around a week of light past germ. there's 9 all together. i have flushed the system partially. i also added nutes in case it was a lack of. is this a ighting prob, nute prob or even overwatering possibly as i have run the water/air since they went into the net pots 24/7. help quick!

Sounds like it could be overwatering. Back off on your floodings and see what happens.

 

[hater hurter]

Sounds like it could be overwatering. Back off on your floodings and see what happens.

i have, i turned the water pumps off which if it's over nuting would take care of that too. only thing that would be a prob now that i can think of would be under nuting. ? can anyone think of anything else that might be a problem? if not i think i'll leave it like this till half way through tomorrow and let them recooperate.

 

[cowell]

i have, i turned the water pumps off which if it's over nuting would take care of that too. only thing that would be a prob now that i can think of would be under nuting. ? can anyone think of anything else that might be a problem? if not i think i'll leave it like this till half way through tomorrow and let them recooperate.

Just turning the pumps off isnt' going to solve your nute problem. They are too young to be on nutes yet anyway. You are going to have to flush your plants with clean fresh PH'd water, and then once you have flushed them, replace water in your res with clean fresh PH'd water again, and water less often. They will dry out and be ok. You will watch them too, if they show signs they need more water, add to the amount of time you're flooding.

At least wait till they are 3- 4 weeks old to nute though.

 

[hater hurter]

alright, i have filled both systems with new water and turned the pumps back on to flush the plants and plan on changing the water again tonight when i get home, anything else?



thanks for the help

 

[hater hurter]

sorry for all the posts but since my camera broke(and i'm very nrevous about keeping these alive) and you can't actually see what is going on i thought i'd mention this. the plant's stems are what is drooping. the leaves aren't really long enough to droop yet.

 

[JeepBeep]

I had a simmilar problem w/ my hydro when I first started, although I was not watering enough. 15 on 15 off should do you right.

 

[hater hurter]

I had a simmilar problem w/ my hydro when I first started, although I was not watering enough. 15 on 15 off should do you right.

yeah i was thinking i should probably set a timer on the water pumps to avoid this in the future. i hope home depot's got some so i can get one today. thanks again.

 

[hater hurter]

k, got another timer. anyone got any idea how long it should take after flushing before they start to look lively again?

 

[JeepBeep]

Mine picked up within a few hours. Just keep a eye on them, they should be fine.

 

[cowell]

Mine picked up within a few hours. Just keep a eye on them, they should be fine.

what he said... they look really bad before they pick up, but they will be happier. once they start to show sign of slowing of growth, start adding nutes back in slowly to the mix.. meaning start off really light and with each res change, up it... like for example start with 1/4 strength, then up it to 1/2, and if the plants are cool with that, go to town at full strenght nutes.. as by then they will be like a month and a half (6 weeksish) and are ready for them then. I'm only telling you what I had to learn the hard way, and not what it says on the bottle of nutes, or what a buddy told me, I'm just trying to help, not tell you what to do.. just so you know .. I'll keep watch, let us know how the babies do.

 

[hater hurter]

what he said... they look really bad before they pick up, but they will be happier. once they start to show sign of slowing of growth, start adding nutes back in slowly to the mix.. meaning start off really light and with each res change, up it... like for example start with 1/4 strength, then up it to 1/2, and if the plants are cool with that, go to town at full strenght nutes.. as by then they will be like a month and a half (6 weeksish) and are ready for them then. I'm only telling you what I had to learn the hard way, and not what it says on the bottle of nutes, or what a buddy told me, I'm just trying to help, not tell you what to do.. just so you know .. I'll keep watch, let us know how the babies do.

i welcome all actual growers advice as the bottle instructions have gotten me in the trouble i am in now. i'll let ya'll know when they look better. gotta get these going though. they're my only bb x ww! if this doesn't work it's schwag!

 

[hater hurter]

k, i just got through with the second flush and the first one either didn't fix the problem or i haven't waited long enough. i did it around 5 am this morning and it's now 5:15 pm. if the second flush doesn't work does anyone have any ideas? thanks again and cross your fingers!

 

[hater hurter]

bump for help, it's 9:15 andthe plants still haven't perked up yet. do i need to cut off water completely? turn of lights, anyone had this problem? man i wish i could send a pic with my phone.

 

[cowell]

bump for help, it's 9:15 andthe plants still haven't perked up yet. do i need to cut off water completely? turn of lights, anyone had this problem? man i wish i could send a pic with my phone.

Ya man,
You don't have to flush for a solid day or two.. just a few waterings is cool.. then let em dry out a bit. Less attention can be better sometimes. All you want to do by flushing is draw the salts out of your plant that is causing problems. You may get an "over watered" state in your plants, but leave them be for a bit and they should perk up just fine. Feel free to PM me if you feel the need.

Another thing, how sure are you it's a nute problem? I mean it could be a ph problem too.. what's your ph?
I know you are using like an aeroponics set up too, check out threads for that (if you haven't already) as the ones growing with it are going to be able to point out the problems that are associated with that set up and may give some insight as to the "over watering" possibility.

 

[hater hurter]

i'm pretty sure the ph is fine but i'll recheck. as of this morning at 2:45 am though it's a dog problem. i left my tent open and one of my dogs decided to eat one of the rockwool with a plant in it. i wish i didn't love dogs so much cause i feel like shooting this one.
it's been a frustrating day.

 

[pastafarian81]

what he said... they look really bad before they pick up, but they will be happier. once they start to show sign of slowing of growth, start adding nutes back in slowly to the mix.. .

No, they are to young for nutes right now. plain ph'd water is sufficient while they are so young.

rockwool holds tons of water. if they are only a week old you can get away with watering twice per day. if you are not careful the stems will begin damping off .

 

[hater hurter]

No, they are to young for nutes right now. plain ph'd water is sufficient while they are so young.

rockwool holds tons of water. if they are only a week old you can get away with watering twice per day. if you are not careful the stems will begin damping off .

k i didn't know you could water them so little. i have the water pumps turned off for the rest of the day and then tomorrow they'll go on a 15 minutes twice a day. i flushed the plants twice yesterday to get rid of any nutes and changed the water twice.

i'm having mixed results. some that were drooping are picking up and some that were fine are now drooping.

 

[pastafarian81]

Search for threads by Al B. Fuct. They are a goldmine of info

 

[potcasso]

Check out my grow same problem. Fixed by only hand water with ph ajested water once a day and NO NUTES for the wst 2 - 3 weeks. Use 20% after u see 3 set of leaves.