Pnuggle
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hahaha fdd DONT YOU SHOOT THAT LIL OPOSSUM, brother!
does anyone else think guns should be banned?
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Mindmelted
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No guns should not be banned. Should cars,Knives,bats,Prescription drugs. Shit in 2006 42,185 people died in cars alone. Get the fuck over wanting to ban our guns.Look at washington when the gun bans was in effect there.You had a better chance of being killed there then in iraq.The criminals still had guns when the law abiding citizens did not.Now that make allot of since.
Mindmelted
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Shit than might as well ban booze
Biggravy22
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I think they should ban shoes. They're bad for your feet.
jiggs2269
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So if you read the forum you would have noticed that the thread starter is from another country NOT THE U.S. Yoiu're not saying anything that hasn't already been said. You just said it in a rather rude way. This is a discussion, not an argument. If your not adult enough to convey your message politely, and without the name calling, as the forum rules suggest, then you should remove yourself from this forum and maybe not even be invoved in any kind of adult activities, ie. grwing pot and all that good stuff. Leave the real discussions to the grown ups.
If everyone is going to stay on one side or the other and not budge then we can just go ahead and kiss the human race goodbye because we'll never make it. If someone can look down the middle and recognize that both sides have valid points, and use those commonalities to better their path and the path for others than we might have a better shot at evolution instead of extinction.
I do strongly believe that as citizen of america you should be able to own a gun. I'm gonna buy my first one as soon as I can. Granted I do have a felony from when I was 17. I did seal it up the legal way and if for some reason the gun store doesn't let me buy a gun because the f.b.i. found my record, then oops, sucks to be me. That was my mistake in the past and I have to deal with the consiquences. I'm not going to go out and buy an unregistered gun because if you get caught with that then you are toast. Warm buttery toast, mmmmm.....
I also believe in regulation. I believe the govt should regulate those who don't have the ability to do it themselves or those who are just too plain stupid to do so. Isthisnametaken might fall under one of those definitions. (See, you CAN insult some one without calling them names. You just gotta put a little more effort into it.) A person who is willing to experience both sides of the spectrum will be better off then some one who is one sided and condems any one else that should think differently. The only way we have progressed as human beings is through our bright minds that have chosen to see the world in a different way. The ones who are brave enough to challenge both sides oppinions and walk away with nothing but positive things to say.
I'm independent when it comes to politics but i lean toward the liberal side. Not to say that I don't agree with a ton of replubican ideals but I would love to become green party, if it actually meant something here in the states. I believe we should expand into renewable resources and crack down on those who use guns improperly. I also believe that gays/lesbians shouldn't be able to get "married." Not to say they don't have any right to be with eachother and be united under the eyes of the law and god but if you look up the word "marriage" in the dictionary this is what it says. "the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies" MAN and WOMAN, HUSBAND and WIFE. Don't get me wrong, 5 of my family members are gay/lesbian and I love them to death and I want nothing more than to see them happy and fufilled. Gays/lesbians have all the same benefits being "united" as a man and woman do being "married." They just don't call it "marriage" it's called being united. Marriage is a word that has a specific deffintion in the english language that was unfortunately written when a "union" between gays/lesbians was never even thought of. If we invented the word "marriage" right now I'm sure we can work, "between man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman," into that deffinition. But oh well it was inveted hundreds of years ago and we can't changes it's deffintion just like we can't change the deffintion of the word "couch" to include "chairs". I'm sure we can think of a new word that the gays/lesbians can have all to themselves and exclude us straights if they wanted or we can come up witha brand new word that incorperates every one. You may bash me if you would like, and show your true colors, or we can have a great conversation and discuss this like adults. (Mhhmm.. isthisnametaken are you reading?)
Back to the guns thing. In order to get rid of the threat of illegal guns we as people should take the responsibility to question our local law enforcement as to why unregistered and illegal guns keep getting confisgated and then recycled back to the street. The real criminal is the under payed paper pusher who gets his palms greased to look the other way while hundreds and thousands of guns are being taken right back to the street with every intent of doing personal harm to some one else. These "thugs" as you call them (police) are just as answerable to you as they are to their supervisors. Not if you're the one they are coming for. If you see a cop on the street talk to them. Ask them questions and pick their brains. Know your enemy better then you know yourself. Cops can also be aneffective deturant against invaders. And If you're setup is less than legal then you could find some way to make it legal. There are loop wholes everywhere but being a bunch of lazy stoners we aren't gonna do the research. Do the research know your rigts and practice them. When you stop practicing your rights is when they will be taken away.
Biggravy22
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So if you read the forum you would have noticed that the thread starter is from another country NOT THE U.S. Yoiu're not saying anything that hasn't already been said. You just said it in a rather rude way. This is a discussion, not an argument. If your not adult enough to convey your message politely, and without the name calling, as the forum rules suggest, then you should remove yourself from this forum and maybe not even be invoved in any kind of adult activities, ie. grwing pot and all that good stuff. Leave the real discussions to the grown ups.
If everyone is going to stay on one side or the other and not budge then we can just go ahead and kiss the human race goodbye because we'll never make it. If someone can look down the middle and recognize that both sides have valid points, and use those commonalities to better their path and the path for others than we might have a better shot at evolution instead of extinction.
I do strongly believe that as citizen of america you should be able to own a gun. I'm gonna buy my first one as soon as I can. Granted I do have a felony from when I was 17. I did seal it up the legal way and if for some reason the gun store doesn't let me buy a gun because the f.b.i. found my record, then oops, sucks to be me. That was my mistake in the past and I have to deal with the consiquences. I'm not going to go out and buy an unregistered gun because if you get caught with that then you are toast. Warm buttery toast, mmmmm.....
I also believe in regulation. I believe the govt should regulate those who don't have the ability to do it themselves or those who are just too plain stupid to do so. Isthisnametaken might fall under one of those definitions. (See, you CAN insult some one without calling them names. You just gotta put a little more effort into it.) A person who is willing to experience both sides of the spectrum will be better off then some one who is one sided and condems any one else that should think differently. The only way we have progressed as human beings is through our bright minds that have chosen to see the world in a different way. The ones who are brave enough to challenge both sides oppinions and walk away with nothing but positive things to say.
I'm independent when it comes to politics but i lean toward the liberal side. Not to say that I don't agree with a ton of replubican ideals but I would love to become green party, if it actually meant something here in the states. I believe we should expand into renewable resources and crack down on those who use guns improperly. I also believe that gays/lesbians shouldn't be able to get "married." Not to say they don't have any right to be with eachother and be united under the eyes of the law and god but if you look up the word "marriage" in the dictionary this is what it says. "the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies" MAN and WOMAN, HUSBAND and WIFE. Don't get me wrong, 5 of my family members are gay/lesbian and I love them to death and I want nothing more than to see them happy and fufilled. Gays/lesbians have all the same benefits being "united" as a man and woman do being "married." They just don't call it "marriage" it's called being united. Marriage is a word that has a specific deffintion in the english language that was unfortunately written when a "union" between gays/lesbians was never even thought of. If we invented the word "marriage" right now I'm sure we can work, "between man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman," into that deffinition. But oh well it was inveted hundreds of years ago and we can't changes it's deffintion just like we can't change the deffintion of the word "couch" to include "chairs". I'm sure we can think of a new word that the gays/lesbians can have all to themselves and exclude us straights if they wanted or we can come up witha brand new word that incorperates every one. You may bash me if you would like, and show your true colors, or we can have a great conversation and discuss this like adults. (Mhhmm.. isthisnametaken are you reading?)
Back to the guns thing. In order to get rid of the threat of illegal guns we as people should take the responsibility to question our local law enforcement as to why unregistered and illegal guns keep getting confisgated and then recycled back to the street. The real criminal is the under payed paper pusher who gets his palms greased to look the other way while hundreds and thousands of guns are being taken right back to the street with every intent of doing personal harm to some one else. These "thugs" as you call them (police) are just as answerable to you as they are to their supervisors. Not if you're the one they are coming for. If you see a cop on the street talk to them. Ask them questions and pick their brains. Know your enemy better then you know yourself. Cops can also be aneffective deturant against invaders. And If you're setup is less than legal then you could find some way to make it legal. There are loop wholes everywhere but being a bunch of lazy stoners we aren't gonna do the research. Do the research know your rigts and practice them. When you stop practicing your rights is when they will be taken away.
I have no words for this.
Mindmelted
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You can take them from my cold dead hands
The Warlord
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i fully agree.
henleyhaze
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i'm a big advocate of concealed weapons not so much open carry.
The Warlord
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Reason? Just curious as to why.
Open carry was always legal here concealed not until 10 or 15 years ago I think. So open carry was the only option at one time. They recently tried to do away with the ccw permits (so anyone could carry concealed) but it didn't go through.
purplekitty7772008
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I completely disagree with you.I also believe that gays/lesbians shouldn't be able to get "married." Not to say they don't have any right to be with eachother and be united under the eyes of the law and god but if you look up the word "marriage" in the dictionary this is what it says. "the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies" MAN and WOMAN, HUSBAND and WIFE. Don't get me wrong, 5 of my family members are gay/lesbian and I love them to death and I want nothing more than to see them happy and fufilled. Gays/lesbians have all the same benefits being "united" as a man and woman do being "married." They just don't call it "marriage" it's called being united. Marriage is a word that has a specific deffintion in the english language that was unfortunately written when a "union" between gays/lesbians was never even thought of. If we invented the word "marriage" right now I'm sure we can work, "between man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman," into that deffinition. But oh well it was inveted hundreds of years ago and we can't changes it's deffintion just like we can't change the deffintion of the word "couch" to include "chairs". I'm sure we can think of a new word that the gays/lesbians can have all to themselves and exclude us straights if they wanted or we can come up witha brand new word that incorperates every one. You may bash me if you would like, and show your true colors, or we can have a great conversation and discuss this like adults. (Mhhmm.. isthisnametaken are you reading?)
If you truly feel that lesbians/gay deserve to be happy, then let them
have the right to get married just like all other couples in America.
Why do you feel you have the right to impose your opinion on other couples believing they are unable to be united and recognized under the law to get
all the same benefits as heterosexual couple?
This is America, and if it was truly free, we wouldn't be putting a BAN
on their marriage rights because of their sexual orientation.
I'm very upset with this statement. As a matter of fact, I will start
a new thread and we can discuss this there.
steve1978
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oops what did i start here! lol. okey dokey first off there seems alot of people that think im a commie. lol! im not i promise. (and heres me thinking the cold war was over) i would probably say im a capatilist with socialist ideals who thinks we should all make as much as we can whilst sharing it all out. just without shooting each other. i also dont agree with homosexual marriage. i quite like gays (hey we all need a bit of advice on interior design/fashion/sausage but i think marriage is a union in the eyes of god. (i think i read in the bible a little something about sodom and gomorrah.) im sure that one policy doesnt make me a republican/democrat/commie. i dont think i would describe myself as politicaly affiliated in any way. any way kind of wish i hadnt started this thread, it is only my opinion. it seem you all hate me for it! lol. i really didnt realise how much you guys love your 2nd amendment and i think you guys have taken offence to that . ill be honest over here guns are looked at different. didnt mean to bug you all out. any way if you would like to ask me any questions before i get accused of being a marxist feel free! peace
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chitownsmoking
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you gotta be pro guns. for those of you who want to beleave gun laws deter criminals smoke this over.... im from illinois home of the stricktest gun laws in the country and also the gang bang capital of the country. now how the fuck does that go hand and hand? chicago has more murder then anyother big city l.a. or new york and has the stricktest gun control laws. more then 40k guns are seized here every year. some from crime sceanes, some from arressts, and alot from the guns for toys shit they got going on. if u get caught selling drugs in the street and have a gun so u dont get robbed or killed and police catch u thats plus 10-15 years on your sentence and u dont even need to fire one shot. this is no way helping out our greatly overcrowding prisons. this shit is getting out of order, and on top of all this congress wants to make gun laws even more strict.
Mindmelted
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Like it was said earlier,Guns don't kill people people kill people.
Show me the last time a gun just got up and shot someone.
Show me the last time a gun just got up and shot someone.
purplekitty7772008
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Mindmelted
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I thought so...lol
It's never happened before...and it never will.
irishboy
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for one if you ban guns and their will still be guns around but u wont have one so now ur fucked! drugs are banned but people still have them. 2 if somone want to kill them self's they dont need guns, its just a quick way out that pain free, most of the time lol. so you telling me that if somone breaks into your house with a gun and is going to rape ur wife or kids your going to just call the cops and wait for them, or are you going to put that S on your chest like superman and beat up a guy with a gun? dont think so, ill tell you what i will do, get mr. 12gauge and save my family.i started this thread as i was asked to stop posting in the gun enthusiast thread. it seems to me for a stoner website theres a hell of a lot of people who like to shoot things! lol.
heres my reasons why i think guns should be banned.
1. in 2006 there were 60.000 fatal incidents involving guns in the us. compare that tt the 4.237 that have been killed in iraq in FIVE years it shows if you want to be safe join the army!
2. america has the highest suicide rates in the world. fact. this even includes switzerland where it is legal for assisted suicide. (for this reason many people from over europe go there for a dignified end.)
3. if people have access to guns they shoot if they dont they cant!
4. only 0.8 percent of fatal shootings in america are in self defenc. this makes a mockery of the claim that fire arms are essential for personal safety.
any way this is all my opinion. if anyone else has any reasons feel free to post!
HoLE
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this is supposed to be a marijuana pot growing site,idle chit chat and stupid bong threads are great,,in my eyes I would think a site like this would not allow any gun talk,,makes for gangster growers and dealers,,,or any avatars of guys holdin 9 millies or twin glocks,,is this site for legal and medicinal marijuana,,or for wannabee gangster druglordsi started this thread as i was asked to stop posting in the gun enthusiast thread. it seems to me for a stoner website theres a hell of a lot of people who like to shoot things! lol.
heres my reasons why i think guns should be banned.
1. in 2006 there were 60.000 fatal incidents involving guns in the us. compare that tt the 4.237 that have been killed in iraq in FIVE years it shows if you want to be safe join the army!
2. america has the highest suicide rates in the world. fact. this even includes switzerland where it is legal for assisted suicide. (for this reason many people from over europe go there for a dignified end.)
3. if people have access to guns they shoot if they dont they cant!
4. only 0.8 percent of fatal shootings in america are in self defenc. this makes a mockery of the claim that fire arms are essential for personal safety.
any way this is all my opinion. if anyone else has any reasons feel free to post!
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