323cheezy
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Its ironic how southerners wait till a black mans president to start pulling out guns..... or as u say they are "tired of having their rights stripped away"....
why not pull out guns on bushes term????
"The larger the gun, the more menacing the situation,"
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why not pull out guns on bushes term????
what... huh?
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No... I am asking the question.
MuyLocoNC
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I'll answer. None, so far as I can see. Many would argue the patriot act certainly encroached on quite a few, and I would have to agree.
I think most of the people who say that are really just feeling unease at the gradual (not so gradual these days) transformation from a free market, purely capitalist society to the socialist/fascist/capitalist hybrid "THING" we have currently become. They make the only arguments they can, what is happening is exactly what the founders warned us of and that socialism/fascism etc etc has failed in every instance it has existed. Valid points that may or may not sway others from their course of action, but at least worthy as an argument.
what... huh?
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Because it is a less than subtle inherent threat, and NRA people tend to be republicans. The question is, why not under Clinton, when HE was pushing health care reform?
It is also not "southerners". The guy that started this was in New Hampshire. Pretty far fucking north. That is ok... we will keep taking the blame for all things race related.
i thought you might have been. you can stand here with me. hit this doobie.
my life is pretty much based around pot these days. i am FREER the ever.
323cheezy
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shows u how much i really give a damn about these people pulling guns cause they think a black mans gonna tax em tooo death...
It doesnt really mattter where these biggets are from .... new hampshire ...
my point being they picked a good time to bring guns too a presidential venue....
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When I read a post like this I wonder. Is this one of those argue for the sake of arguing posts because it is a rather silly statement.
TheBrutalTruth
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Simple answer to that (why not under Clinton) Clinton didn't throw a shitload of public money away on private corporations, and effectively take over a major corporation.
Clinton didn't attempt to fire any CEOs.
There was no call to Audit the Federal Reserve and determine its roll in the economy.
But most importantly of all, the economy was humming along due to the reforms undertaken by Reagan.
That, and the government has became more transparent since the late 90s with more people being informed and forming opinions on what the government is doing.
People have became more aware of the true cost of government, and are sick of it.
People have seen the colossal waste that government routinely engages in, and are fed up with it.
They are sick of seeing their freedoms confiscated by unelected bureaucrats, and sick of having their taxes go up.
They are sick of irresponsibility at a federal level, and now that many of them are unemployed they have the time to demonstrate and actually make sure that those that are in power see that they are not going to sit idly by while the imbeciles in congress attempt to strip them of even more freedoms under a nazi-esque plan.
what... huh?
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As a southerner, I am tired of the constant assumption of being the source of all things racist. It warranted clarification.
As to your point, I think I agree... if by good you mean odd.
Lastly... the subject matter here WILL bring agency attention. Tread lightly.
323cheezy
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no disrespect to southerners...
but histrorically we see a clarification....
no offence..... not all southerners are racist ..just some...lol
Moldy
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Yeah, capitalism? I agree, I like capitalism fine but when 1% of the people have over 40% of the wealth don't you think something is fucked up? There is some middle ground some where but I ain't got a clue where it is. Our rights have been being fucked away for years now by both screwed up parties and all we have to blame is ourselves.
But I still have a big ass gun and no party can take that away from me. I enjoy gardening more than shooting... which both parties want to take away. 
what... huh?
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There are winners, and there are losers in capitalism.
What is the % of TDs scored by the % of football players? Is that "fair"?
What is the % of TDs scored by the % of football players? Is that "fair"?
Operation 420
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Nah man. It's about freedom and keeping America out of the new world order. Health care is part of the overall picture though.
Operation 420
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People have a misconception of who actually has the wealth and power in the world. Check this out. We need these people out of our system.Yeah, capitalism? I agree, I like capitalism fine but when 1% of the people have over 40% of the wealth don't you think something is fucked up? There is some middle ground some where but I ain't got a clue where it is. Our rights have been being fucked away for years now by both screwed up parties and all we have to blame is ourselves.
Rothschilds & Rockefellers -
Trillionaires Of The World
Learn your history before it repeats on you.
By New World Order
12-3-7
http://www.rense.com/general79/tril.htm
"Money is Power", or shall we say, "The Monopoly to Create Credit Money and charge interest is Absolute Power". (Alex James)
Amsel (Amschel) Bauer Mayer Rothschild, 1838:
"Let me issue and control a Nation's money and I care not who makes its laws".
Letter written from London by the Rothschilds to their New York agents introducing their banking method into America: "The few who can understand the system will be either so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while, on the other hand, that great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that Capital derives from the system, will bear its burden without complaint and, perhaps, without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
Nathan Rothschild said to the Commons Secret Committee on the question early in 1819: "In what line of business are you? - Mostly in the foreign banking line. "Have the goodness to state to the Committee in detail, what you conceive would be the consequence of an obligation imposed upon the Bank [of England, which he owned] to resume cash payments at the expiration of a year from the present time? - I do not think it can be done without very great distress to this country; it would do a great deal of mischief; we may not actually know ourselves what mischief it might cause. "Have the goodness to explain the nature of the mischief, and in what way it would be produced? - Money will be so very scarce, every article in this country will fall to such an enormous extent, that many persons will be ruined."
The director of the Prussian Treasury wrote on a visit to London that Nathan Rothschild had as early as 1817: ".., incredible influence upon all financial affairs here in London. It is widely stated.., that he entirely regulates the rate of exchange in the City. His power as a banker is enormous".
Austrian Prince Mettemich's secretary wrote of the Rothschilds, as early as 1818, that: "... they are the richest people in Europe."
Referring to James Rothschild, the poet Heinrich Heine said: "Money is the god of our times, and Rothschild is his prophet."
James Rothschild built his fabulous mansion, called Ferrilres, 19 miles north-east of Paris. Wilhelm I, on first seeing it, exclaimed: "Kings couldn't afford this. It could only belong to a Rothschild!"
Author Frederic Morton wrote that the Rothschilds had: "conquered the World more thoroughly, more cunningly, and much more lastingly than all the Caesars before..."
As Napoleon pointed out: "Terrorism, War & Bankruptcy are caused by the privatization of money, issued as a debt and compounded by interest "- he cancelled debt and interest in France - hence the Battle of Waterloo.
Some writers have claimed that Nathan Rothschild "warned that the United States would find itself involved in a most disastrous war if the bank's charter were not renewed." (do you see the similarities here? If you don't play the game an economic disaster will fall on you and you will be destroyed.)
"There is but one power in Europe and that is Rothschild." 19th century French commentator.
Lord Rothschild (Rockefellers and Rothschilds' relatives) in his book The Shadow of a Great Man quotes a letter sent from Davidson on June 24, 1814 to Nathan Rothschild, "As long as a house is like yours, and as long as you work together with your brothers, not a house in the world will be able to compete with you, to cause you harm or to take advantage of you, for together you can undertake and perform more than any house in the world." The closeness of the Rothschild brothers is seen in a letter from Soloman (Salmon) Rothschild to his brother Nathan on Feb. 28, 1815, "We are like the mechanism of a watch: each part is essential." (2) This closeness is further seen in that of the 18 marriages made by Mayer Amschel Rothschild's grandchildren - 16 were contracted between first cousins.
"Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly." The Communist Manifesto. In the case of the Bolshevik revolution, Rothschilds/ Rockefellers' Chase Bank owned the state. In the US, the FED owners "own" the state.
Rothschilds' favorite saying who along with the Rockefellers are the major Illuminati Banking Dynasties: "Who controls the issuance of money controls the government!"
Nathan Rothschild said (1777-1836): "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply."
Rockefeller is reported to have said: "Competition is a sin". "Own nothing. Control everything". Because he wants to centralize control of everything and enslave us all, i.e. the modern Nimrod or Pharaoh.
The Rothschild were behind the colonization and occupations of India and the Rothschild owned British Petroleum was granted unlimited rights to all offshore Indian oil, which is still valid till this day.
"Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws." The famous boastful statement of Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild, speaking to a group of international bankers, 1912: "The few who could understand the system (cheque, money, credits) will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests." The boastful statement by Rothschild Bros. of London.
These people are the top masterminds and conspired for the creation of illegal FEDERAL RESERVE BANK in 1913: Theodore Roosevelt, Paul Warburg - Representative Of Rothschild, Woodrow Wilson - U.S. President Signed FED Into Act, Nelson W. Aldrich - Representative Of Rockefeller, Benjamin Strong - Representative Of Rockefeller, Frank A. Vanderlip - Representative Of Rockefeller, John D. Rockefeller - Rockefeller Himself, Henry Davison - Representative Of J. P. Morgan, Charles Norton - Representative Of J. P. Morgan.
In the last century, members of the British Fabian Society dynastic banking families in the City of London financed the Communist takeover of Russia. Trotsky in his biography refers to some of the loans from these British financiers going back as far as 1907. By 1917 the major subsidies and funding for the Bolshevik Revolution were co-ordinated and arranged by Sir George Buchanan and Lord Alfred Milner. [no doubt using money from Cecil Rhodes' South African gold and diamond legacy - Ed] The Communist system in Russia was a "British experiment" designed ultimately to become the Fabian Socialist model for the British takeover of the World through the UN and EU. The British plan to takeover the World and bring in a "New World Order" began with the teachings of John Ruskin and Cecil Rhodes at Oxford University. Rhodes in one of his wills in 1877 left his vast fortune to Lord Nathan Rothschild as trustee to set up the Rhodes Scholarship Program at Oxford to indoctrinate promising young graduates for the purpose, and also establish a secret society [Royal Institute of International Affairs RIIA, which branched into the Round Table, the Bilderbergers, the CFR, the Trilateral, etc -- Ed] for leading business and banking leaders around the World who would work for the City to bring in their Socialist World government.
Rothschild appointed Lord Alfred Milner to implement the plan.
Benjamin Freedman (Friedman) said this in 1961, Washington (he was a millionaire insider in international Zionist organizations, friend to 4 US presidents, and was also part of the 117-man strong Zionist delegation at the signing of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919 where Germany was forced into bankruptcy to the Zionist BankLords and social chaos): "Two years into WW1, Germany, which was then winning the war, offered Britain and France a negotiated peace deal, but German Zionist groups seeing the opportunity made a deal with Britain to get the United States into the war if Britain promised to give the Zionists Palestine."
In other words, they made this deal: "We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey." They made that promise, in October of 1916. And shortly after that -- I don't know how many here remember it -- the United States, which was almost totally pro-German because the newspapers and mass communications media here were controlled by the Zionist bankers who owned the major commercial banks and the 12 Federal Reserve Banks (the original Stockholders of the Federal Reserve Banks in 1913 were the Rockefeller' s, JP Morgan, Rothschild's, Lazard Freres, Schoellkopf, Kuhn-Loeb, Warburgs, Lehman Brothers and Goldman Sachs, all with roots in Germany's Zionists like the British Royal family, J.P. Morgan, Carnegie, Bush, Rumsfeld, Clintons, the Nazis that were brought into the CIA, etc. http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/federal_reserve.shtml ) and they were pro-German because they wanted to use Germany to destroy the Czar of Russia and let the Communists whom they funded take over. The German Zionist bankers -- Rothschilds, Rockefeller, Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: "As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!" They poured money into Germany, fighting with Germany against Russia, to lick the Czarist regime. The newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, then after making the deal with the British for Palestine, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. And they were no good. The Zionists in London sent cables to the US, to Justice Brandeis: "Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work, and you go to work on President Wilson and get the US into the war." And that did happen. Shortly after President Woodrow Wilson declared war on Germany.
The power of the Rothschild family was evidenced on 24 Sept 2002 when a helicopter touched down on the lawn of Waddedson Manor, their ancestral home in Buckinghamshire, England. Out of the helicopter strode Warren Buffet, - touted as the second richest man in the World but really a lower ranking player- and Arnold Schwarzenegger (the gropinator), at that time a candidate for the Governorship of California. Also in attendance at this two day meeting of the World's most powerful businessmen and financiers hosted by Jacob Rothschild were James Wolfensohn, president of the World Bank and Nicky Oppenheimer, chairman of De Beers. Arnold went on to secure the governorship of one of the biggest economies on the planet a year later. That he was initiated into the ruling class in the Rothschilds' English country manor suggests that the centre of gravity of the three hundred trillion dollar cartel is in the U.K. and Europe not the U.S.
A recent article in the London Financial Times indicates why it is impossible to gain an accurate estimate of the wealth of the trillionaire bankers. Discussing the sale of Evelyn Rothschild's stake in Rothschild Continuation Holdings, it states: ...[this] requires agreement on the valuation of privately held assets whose value has never been tested in a public market. Most of these assets are held in a complex network of tax-efficient structures around the World.
Queen Elizabeth II's shareholdings remain hidden behind Bank of England Nominee accounts. The Guardian newspaper reported in May 2002 ... "the reason for the wild variations in valuations of her private wealth can be pinned on the secrecy over her portfolio of share investments. This is because her subjects have no way of knowing through a public register of interests where she, as their head of state, chooses to invest her money. Unlike the members of the Commons and now the Lords, the Queen does not have to annually declare her interests and as a result her subjects cannot question her or know about potential conflicts of interests..." In fact, the Queen even has an extra mechanism to ensure that her investments remain secret - a nominee company called the Bank of England Nominees. It has been available for decades to the entire World's current heads of state to allow them anonymity when buying shares. Therefore, when a company publishes a share register and the Bank of England Nominees is listed, it is not possible to gauge whether the Queen, President Bush or even Saddam Hussein is the true shareholder.
By this method, the trillionaire masters of the universe remain hidden whilst Forbes magazine poses lower ranking billionaires like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett as the richest men in the World. Retired management consultant Gaylon Ross Sr, author of Who's Who of the Global Elite, has been tipped from a private source that the combined wealth of the Rockefeller family in 1998 was approx (US) $11 trillion and the Rothschilds (U.S.) $100 trillion. However something of an insider's knowledge of the hidden wealth of the elite is contained in the article, "Will the Dollar and America Fall Down on August 19?.." on page 1 of the 12th July 2001 issue of Russian newspaper Pravda. The newspaper interviewed Tatyana Koryagina, a senior research fellow in the Institute of Macroeconomic Researches subordinated to the Russian Ministry of Economic Development (Minekonom) on the subject of a recent conference concerning the fate of the U.S. economy:
Koryagina: The known history of civilization is merely the visible part of the iceberg. There is a shadow economy, shadow politics and also a shadow history, known to conspirologists. There are [unseen] forces acting in the World, unstoppable for [most powerful] countries and even continents.
Ashley Mote (EU): "Mr President, I wish to draw your attention to the Global Security Fund, set up in the early 1990s under the auspices of Jacob Rothschild. This is a Brussels-based fund and it is no ordinary fund: it does not trade, it is not listed and it has a totally different purpose. It is being used for geopolitical engineering purposes, apparently under the guidance of the intelligence services." "I have previously asked about the alleged involvement of the European Union's own intelligence resources in the management of slush funds in offshore accounts, and I still await a reply. To that question I now add another: what are the European Union's connections to the Global Security Fund and what relationship does it have with European Union institutions? "Recently, Ashley Mote of the European Union (EU) asked this volatile question in a public EU meeting, a question never answered, as Mr. Mote, merely by asking this question, was immediately scratched from the White House Christmas card list and placed on its top ten hit list. The Illuminati's cash cow, grazing freely on the World wide pasture of greenbacks, isn't called "Elsie" but instead is called the Global Security Fund, a name actually meaning in the secret cult's language Global Terrorist Fund. In simple terms, it's a gigantic illegal trust fund, estimated by undercover overseas financial investigators at 65 trillion dollars, set-up for "Illuminati rainy days" and established when it is desperately needed in a pinch for bribery, assassinations and sponsoring World wide terrorist activities to divert attention from their banking mafia. Although the fund is cloaked in secrecy and made possible by the Western civilization' s Federal Reserve banking system, investigators trying to pry into the Illuminati's secret treasure trove have uncovered some interesting facts.
323cheezy
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"just because it is in print doesnt mean its the gospel.....people write negative things because they think it sells.....good news to them doesnt sell"..... michael jackson.....
Regardless who u vote for....
if the mind dont grow than the poverty line dont go...
but the dope keep coming and the tv keep flashing images of a sportscar...
then you bound for a cobalt ....
sheep get drowned in the folklore....
and then lulled to sleep by tom brokoff...
what a pity ...
the hope on the politicians toungue never ever trickles down to the city....
So if a n!$$& put a presidents mask on .... and runs up in the bank saying gimme gimme...
a aint glad at em ... but i aint mad at em....
Im handing out free atlast kits.....
what ?fuck this blog.....
you cant knock my hustle dogg!...lol
Regardless who u vote for....
if the mind dont grow than the poverty line dont go...
but the dope keep coming and the tv keep flashing images of a sportscar...
then you bound for a cobalt ....
sheep get drowned in the folklore....
and then lulled to sleep by tom brokoff...
what a pity ...
the hope on the politicians toungue never ever trickles down to the city....
So if a n!$$& put a presidents mask on .... and runs up in the bank saying gimme gimme...
a aint glad at em ... but i aint mad at em....
Im handing out free atlast kits.....
what ?fuck this blog.....
you cant knock my hustle dogg!...lol
hanimmal
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How has these changes affected our lives? I guess since I am not a proclaimed 'constitutionalist I don't follow these like I should.
But seriously has anyone on these boards had anything done to them that violate these?
It is more of a question that a debate.
Great post. I agree that we have moved away from pure capitalist but it was because we had to as a society. We cannot have children stuck in mines and no workers rights like what we did when we basically were all small farmers.
The big thing for me is the 14th amendment that puts corporations "individual rights" the same as a person. Freedom of speech would never even be brought up, but corporations hide behind it and convince people that the government is trying to steal their rights.
I am very much in favor of the government pulling out of all our lives as far as possible. I am for gun rights, even though I don't own one and really don't think that it is ok to own a skud missile. I am all about them not being able to enter into our homes with illegal search and seizures, ect. But that doesn't mean that they should just let us go nuts and never be proactive with terrorist activities.
Anyway I would like to toss a little race card out onto the fire.
What would happen if these guys showed up at a McCain/Palin rally a few months back with signs that said you had better not tread on us?
The Warlord
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Every time a bill goes through congress you lose a little freedom. They pass laws tjhat make things illegal. Every time a bit of our freedom is gone.
sometimes i wonder if you rode the short bus to school.
what... huh?
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Well the first group will be shot or rounded up, as they are 1. Largely not American. 2. Largely felons, and shouldn't have fire arms. 3. Suspected MS13 gang members and are wanted for questioning anyway.
The second group seems a little young for open carry.
The third group is a cartoon.
The second group seems a little young for open carry.
The third group is a cartoon.