fish601
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i agree we did not evolve from chimpanzees or gorillas but that is what wiki says
Evolution Is A Theory On Which You Base A Religion
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i agree we did not evolve from chimpanzees or gorillas but that is what wiki says
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PadawanBater
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No, Wiki does not say "chimpanzees" or "gorillas", it says "apes". We are a part of the great ape family, homo sapiens being the newer great apes.i agree we did not evolve from chimpanzees or gorillas but that is what wiki says
You're an ape, I'm an ape, we are all apes.
fish601
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It has been estimated that the human lineage diverged from that of chimpanzees about five million years ago, and from that of gorillas about eight million years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human
mared juwan
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Why argue about what wikipedia says? That is not a valid source. Here is a very interesting article I think you both would enjoy.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v437/n7055/full/nature04072.html
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v437/n7055/full/nature04072.html
mared juwan
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Correct. Humans and chimpanzees share a common ancestor but one does not directly descend from the other. Nature is considered the most prestigious and reputable journal in the scientific community.
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PadawanBater
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This post FTW!! +Rep bro!
Not only is fish ignorant, he's now been exposed as actively being deceitful. You can no longer give him the benefit of the doubt, he saw the ENTIRE quote and he ACTIVELY picked a part that he thought supported his position. Classic example of quote mining.
You're fuckin' done in this thread son.
You showed that believers will attempt conversion by all means they feel necessary, even lying, a sin. What does that say about their faith?
Atheism never made me lie to anyone...
Nocturn3, can't rep you man...
fish601
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I think you took my post out of context i said a few post ago...
There were two or three different groups of walking apes, and one was the forefather of human....
if its still out of context sorry, i though evolutionist wouuld understand
its not even true so its kinda funny to argue about it
Dont put your faith in me, i dont know everything i make alot of mistakes i do not fully understand science or god. I am learning alot I also know that you will never believe creation, you put your faith in scientist and i dont have a problem with that, they are very smart but science is way to young for me to put faith in.
There is no reason for me to lie to you.
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Keenly
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its hard for me to believe in anything that can not be proven correct
i refuse to have blind faith and hope for the best, so i only believe in things that can be proven, repeated, explained
i refuse to have blind faith and hope for the best, so i only believe in things that can be proven, repeated, explained
fish601
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big bang cant be proven repeated or explained so i guess you dont believe in that.. so
how did earth form?
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PadawanBater
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No man, you're not just going to back your way out of it like that. I started engaging with you about this stuff way back on page 16, you've been doing the same thing all the way to now.
That really pissed me off, this is the internet, I don't even know you personally, but you clearly understand what you did. You did it on purpose. You took a quote from wiki, the source you and all your creationist buddies claim is not accurate, totally quote mined it because you probably thought it wouldn't make any sense for humans to have evolved from chimpanzees because there are still chimpanzees around today, copied the bit that appeared to support your position, and posted it thinking nobody would notice.
This is the reason it's tough to do this, not because the information is so hard to learn, but because the people you try to teach refuse to listen, dispite all the evidence presented, because of their beliefs. You sit there and claim you don't believe Christianity or religion or whatever, but are so clearly shackled by your faith I can't take it seriously.
It wasn't a mistake. A mistake I would understand. It was a deliberate attempt to deceive people. You, sir, lied. Have you ever been lied to? If so I'm sure you must know how the person being lied to feels about the person doing the lying...
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Keenly
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we are not talking about the big bang are we?
were talking about a religion
i expressed my opinion, i did not state that the way you feel is wrong or incorrect
i merely stated how my mind works, and if you dont like it, too bad
your not going to change my mind, and im not going to try to change yours, i expressed my opinion, and thats all
fish601
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people come in all sizes and shapes..But the dating methods are flawed.. even though the cerebral capacity increases with each hominid, which lines up with the theory of evolution, and also the predicted outcome of evolution.. Each one gets taller and stands more upright... each one loses body hair, learns to use tools, and learns to use clothes.. learns to use fire, develops language, creates society...
But I guess it's all just nonsense...
compair people from all around the world.....
just wondering, how do they know how much hair they lost?
fish601
Active Member
easy man it was just a question
you said you only believe in facts i was asking how you thought earth appeard
i wasnt trying to convert you to christianity
fish601
Active Member
"human lineage diverged"
does diverge mean evolve?
There were two or three different groups of walking apes, and one was the forefather of humans
diverge = to move or extend in different directions from a common point
you changed the word diverge to evolve
but it may be my falt. .if i would of added a period here
maybe it would of been better but as you can tell i get lazy with . , capitol letters, spelling,......
this will probably be misunder stood as well
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PadawanBater
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Go look at Nocturn3's post, post #326."human lineage diverged"
does diverge mean evolve?
There were two or three different groups of walking apes, and one was the forefather of humans
diverge = to move or extend in different directions from a common point
you changed the word diverge to evolve
but it may be my falt. .if i would of added a period here
maybe it would of been better but as you can tell i get lazy with . , capitol letters, spelling,......
this will probably be misunder stood as well
You took a sentence from wiki, when a few lines above it it says "we did NOT evolove from chimps". You copied the part that you felt supported your position and left the rest, that CLEARLY DIDN'T support your position, out.
This shows that you will resort to these kinds of tactics just to 'win' whatever 'argument' you feel we might be having.
This also shows that you cannot admit when you're wrong.
It's just become a waste of time at this point.
fish601
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....you evolutionist 
and him must be the missing link scientist are looking for
fish601
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do you not like the way scientist say we looked ?... sure these pictures arnt perfect but it gives a pretty good idea of what they think we looked likeDo you at least understand that what you guys are proposing, like with this picture, is NOT AT ALL HOW THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION WORKS! AT ALL!
It's laughable.