getting off opiates
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mastakoosh
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i have been on suboxone for 3 years and i cant kick em. the w/d's from long term use of suboxone are horrible. to me it was easier to kick oxy's than subs.
Im gonna have to disagree with all u guys saying that "methadone is a life-long drug" and shit b/c i took methadone for about 18months then stopped at 5mg cold turkey and was only uncomfortable for a few days. but i i do know ppl who have been on it forever...but u can get off of it if your at a low dose. As far as gettin off em ive been on h for 3 or 4 years on and off and theres not alot u can do but stick it out, unless your going to do suboxone or methadone program.
Mr.Therapy Man
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I stopped my 240 mg of methadone instantly,its pretty easy when you figure your headed for the grave fast.Ive lost 20 friends from methadone and zanax overdoses and wish they would take that fucking poison off the market.That fucking shit rots your teeth and settles into you bone marrow.Detox off methadone was harder than cold turkey for me.Its about 75% mental,I can now take oxys and percs when I need one not because I have to .Methadone can be overcome and fuck suboxone ,I think they are worse than done on your body. Peace and good luck
Mr.Therapy Man
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By the way I was on Methadone over 5 years with a dose of about 200mg a day from the pain clinic.Since you cant get 40 mg wafers anymore they give you 20 ,10mg pills a day.5 pills, four times daily
Mr.Therapy Man
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Corbat420
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DUDE DO NOT GOTO THE METHADONE CLINIC!!!!!!!!!!! I CAN NOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!!! sorry for the capps, but i know to many methadone addicts to let another one come about.
meythadone is one of the worst things to get addicted to, you can quit 99% of drugs cold turkey, but if you try to cold turkey methadone its GUARANTEED YOU WILL DIE (2 people i knew have..)
personaly, i get my self to heavy into 2 different games over the years, opiates and amphetamines (2 worst mistakes i ever made.....) to conquer these addictions what did i do? i got dropped off in the middle of the bush (i've worked in forestry / mining for close to 40~ years....) and simply because there were no drugs in the bush, i coulden't do any...... i was there for around 40~ days both trips, in one way they were the worst 80 days of my life, in another.....i am still alive......
Honestly man, i dont know what to say other than DONT GO NEAR METHADONE.
thats because you wern't a true addict, you just thought you were an addict, its called an addictive personality(i have one to so...). a person with a physical chemical addiction cant cold turkey it for a couple of the reasons you have said, it leaches into bone marrow and stores its self in cells for long term usage.
if a person has been on methadone for 3-5 years (like a few people i know) then every cell in your body has methadone in it, and every cell needs it to survive. when you stop cold turkey after that, you die.
Mr.Therapy Man
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Man Ive done more damn pills than most people ever thought about seeing.Ive lined up at the methadone clinic myself for two years when my Doctor got in trouble.Most days I did my dose and bought take homes off all my buddies who needed dosing cash some days upward of 500 mg of done day and usually about 4 mgs of zanex.Im probably the worst addict on this site,it all started with a 14ft. fall off of a concrete column when the crane pouring the column turned over and I fell 14 ft on my tailbone.Ruptured 2 disc and Im fucked up for life.I hated opiates before I fell,I still hate them today, I just have some controll over them .I currently get 120 oxy 30 mg and 120 perc 10 mg and never eat half of them anymore.Im just saying if you want to stop its not that hard once you set your mind to it.Larger doses are harder to stop.I know 50 people who have cold turkeyed methadone because of losing dosing priveliges due to dirty urines.Methadone does not have to be a death sentence,I hope they yank that poison off the market
Mr.Therapy Man
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I was on methadone from 1998 till 2008 ,some from pain management and some from methadone clinics,Notice clinics is plural.3 pain clinics and 2 methadone clinics during this period.Its not been very fun!
apasunee
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sounds alot like what I went thru years of the methadone clinic but I actually was trying to get off everything and was totally serious about it, in the years I was going to the clinic I never had a dirty ua and went down to 1 mill. yeas that was 1 mill. even I knew I could stop at that point as I am very phisically fit and have to be sharp enough to deal with the worst of the worst people in this world and make them happy every day,, but when the clinic told me I was done I left thinkin I will never ever do this shit again,,,, well,,, It only took 2 dayys before I had so much pain in all of my body that I couldnt get up,, I did manage to make it to work for 3 more days but my boss and everyone that seen me knew something was seriously wrong with me and it wasnt the flew,,, and I went out on 1 f-n mill. well I figured that it was all in my head so I stayed home for 2 f-n weeks,, the last 7 days with no sleep and one hell of a lot of pain,,,, but I told myself I could kick this, one day at a time and it has to get better sooner or later,,,, well,,, It didnt so I went back to the clinic in the worst shape ive ever been in being off all drugs for close to3 weeks and it just got worse every day,,, the clinic said I had to go thru like I was never there all the paperwork again then they started me out at 30 mill again and brought me up to 80,, they said that is the process for new patients when they are the ones who told me that I was better and I dont have to come back anymore when I was taking 1 mill.... fuck those people,,, they want your money,, thats it,,, they made me go every day again instead of my monthly take homes.... After a week I told them to f themselves I cant do that shit no more,, so they called the cops and told them I was suicidal and on my way to work that morning I kept gettin calls from the police dept askin where I was, I told them I was on my way to work,, I thought someone died,,, well I got to work,, was sent to human resourse where she aske me for my work radio,, at that time 12 police officers lined the hallways in the building and 3 paramedic vehicles were outside waiting for me,,,, all because I said I am done with this shit,, I didnt tell them that I found a suboxine doctor at that time cause they always try to say how nothin is good but methadone,,, needless to say I had to go to the hospital until a psycyatrist saw me and agreed this has all been a big misunderstanding,,, but I still got fired from my job and ridiculed in front of my piers and at least 75 other people in that office who all watched me get walked thru the building in handcuffs with a dozen cops and paramedics following me.... well thats the price I had to pay for using drugs of every kind since I was 14 and that when I fell in love with opiates (only the strongest) I always laughed at people that said they have darvocet or tylenol2 3 or 4s,, or percocet or lortap, shit I would of had to eat 25 or 30 lortabs or percs and hope to get a small buzz,, but everyone who made it to where I was at knows that you will get sick from all the acetamenaphen or asprin or all the othe crap they put in those pills before u get high off them,,,, I remember eating 10 10mill. valium and 8 5 mill valium on the way to the shore, after a couple cases of beer we got there and from what I hear I had a great time except for starting fights with inacent people.... well thats my rant.. sorry so long but I was On A Roll...
Mr.Therapy Man
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My last time I stopped done I was sick for over 3 months,no sleep is whats bad but somehow Ive done it 3 times on large doses.Ive also done a slow detox and it about killed me.I found out later that I was not even getting my full 20mg because the bitches at the clinic were charged with stealing bottles of liquid.One of the clinics I used only had red so them bitches could water it down and really make you sick.You were either dope sick or fucked up.Ive seen five different nurses charged with theft at two different clinics
Dysprositos
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Opiate withdrawal is tough and seems like hell but it won't kill you. I read earlier in the thread that somebody suggested using Benzo's to help withdrawal symptoms and that is a choice but then you are going to deal with benzo withdrawals and that CAN kill you! Instead try weening yourself off of the opiates decreasing the dose by a quarter of your normal dose each day. When you get down to a quarter dose cut it in half and only take half of the quarter dose. Weening yourself can be a good method and many doctors suggest this. Whatever you do good luck.
apasunee
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Oh dude get this one,,,, I was in front of one of the nurses that dose u and right when I walked up I caught her downing a cup that looked around 200 mill.... there bigger drug addict than we were........ And when I first went to the suboxin doctor they tell u that you have to be clean for at least 2 days,, I told her it has been 3 weeks and she told me she couldnt give me it cause I should be fine by now, but when she gave me an exam she said I must be lying about 3 weeks cause Im still withdrawing and then she didnt want to give me any suboxine cause she said if u take the suboxine when u have had any opiates in the last 2 days u will be more sick than u have ever been in ur life (thats bulshit) but thats what they tell u to scare you,, here is something fucked up I told her hw bad I felt , aches, pains, nausia,, cant look people in the eyes always staring at the ground, feeling like im in outerspace,, uv lighting screws with me, etc..etc..etc.. SHE TOLD ME THAT SINCE IVE BEEN ON OPIATES FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS MAYBE THAT THE WAY THAT I REALLY AM, MAYBE THATS MY ORIGINAL PERSONALITY,,, well lets just say that I have never hit a woman but if I did she would have been my first,,,, so she finally gave me two pills under the tongue and had to sit in front of her while she ate her lunch she said they will kick in in 10 minutes,,, well 10 mins later nothing,, so I left to fill my prescription and went home,, about 45 minutes after I took the 2 pills I was higher than 10 motherfuckers, so instead of taking 2 twice a day I took 1 in the moning and that was good enough after a couple months of that I had her cut the dosage on the pills and now I only take one of the tiny pills once a day and I feel like Im totally straight all day,, just dont forget to take it or else.....
Dysprositos
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Dang that scares me that you are really just replacing one drug with another it seems. Who is to say you won't be addicted to those now? Just sounds dangerous to me and dumb when your main goal is to get off of addictive drugs....
hippietoker18
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its pretty tough dude i just recently did that. i was doing morphine then slowed down a little and did some oxycodone and slowed down on that then went to vicodin and slowed down on that and then quit.
good luck
good luck
apasunee
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there is always one in the crowd....... Well Im sorry that that scares you as you obviously are a very condascendining person,,, but there are a lot of people in this world that have to take pills every day to survive (not talkin about opiates) so If I have to take one very small little pill for the rest of my life to keep me as normal as normal can b then thats fine with me.... And noone told me that I wont get addicted to these, I fully understand what will happen in the long term,, and its not dangerous to me, as a matter of fact it saved my life, so the only dumb thing as you put it is people like u who have no idea what the fuck ur talkin about,,, u r just here to put people down,,,,, I like sharing stories and hearing other peoples stories that made it out alive,, u wouldnt know what thats like asshole,,,Im sorry if I took what you said the wrong way but I came a long way and it freaks me out when people think its sooooo much easier,,, not for everyone...
leftreartire
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go to your family doctor and tell him whats up. he can give you ceboxian an opiate block and itkeeps you from getting sick. itdoes help. if you take the boxian even if you take an opiate you won't get high. they work!