water cloning help/sudgestions

[IHeartMarryJane]

Hello!
In the past ive successfully cloned in expandable peat pellets but recently i haven't had much success at all. Ive been trying rockwool to no avail with every method i seen. Maybe its my strain (white widow and now trying crystal) but thats beside the point.

I think part of my problem is i loved them to death. I hear that you need just to spray once or twice a day and leave them alone but i cant help but to check all the time.

Anyway a few days ago I took a little clipping from the bottom of my white widow which has been in flower for 30 days and was not producing any bud. For some reason or another I felt bad for wasting it and decided to just stick it in the rocks of the flood drain and see what happened. I forgot about it and today when i went in there it was still alive as could be. I was incredibly surprised. So i researched water cloning and found out that it took a little longer that most methods but it was maintenance free. Just cut and put in water. No dome or anything.

So I decided to do this with my crystal plant that has been in 12/12 for 10 days. I took 8 clippings from her bottom that vary in size (I was going to cut them off to see if the top did any better anyway) I took a piece of aluminum foil and put it over a clear bowl and poked holes in it. The water is pure tap water with a little bit of bloom nuets and some peroxide as I read both of those were a good idea. They said dont worry about PH tap water is ok. I also used Juicy Roots rooting hormone on each clipping. I took my clipping tidied them up dipped them in the cloning gel and put them in the foil holes into the water.

I just set them low in the veg closet away from direct light. Will I have as much success with this as everything ive read? If not its fine as I said i was throwing them out anyway. Any sugestions?

Thanks in advance!!

 

[IHeartMarryJane]

Hope I put this in the right place...forum newb...Sorry

 

[IHeartMarryJane]

help anyone?

 

[IHeartMarryJane]

guess not lol. But they are all still very green and not droopy at all. Not bad at all for just poking some holes in foil.

 

[Skunkybud]

yeah sometimes it just seems no one wants to help on this forum or they're just too lazy at the moment who knows. If i knew how to clone I'd tell u sorry bor have better luck pce.

 

[GNOME GROWN]

u growing soil or dro?...i faild a fewtimes before i found out what works good!....i grow in soil...but it sounds like ur doin FAD system

 

[IHeartMarryJane]

yeah sometimes it just seems no one wants to help on this forum or they're just too lazy at the moment who knows. If i knew how to clone I'd tell u sorry bor have better luck pce.

Well usually it seems that the people on this site are really good about helping. Thats why I signed up here. Its probably because I just signed up and dont have many post so I guess I have to understand. But thanks anyway bro.

u growing soil or dro?...i faild a fewtimes before i found out what works good!....i grow in soil...but it sounds like ur doin FAD system

Yeah I do a flood drain. Flood 15 mins every 2 hours. Thanks for responding.

 

[guitarzan420]

leaving them submerged will rot the stems. they need to breathe just like the root system does. what ever you use as far as pellets or rockwool, make sure the stem is snug with the medium to get good root growth.

 

[IHeartMarryJane]

leaving them submerged will rot the stems. they need to breathe just like the root system does. what ever you use as far as pellets or rockwool, make sure the stem is snug with the medium to get good root growth.

If you google "water cloning marijuana" it will bring up many things that show people have had success with it. But they make it look unbelievably simple. And a lot of people report great success rates.

But like i said it looks unbelievably easy..

 

[GNOME GROWN]

i hear rockwool is hrd for newbs to clone with..if u squeeze it to hard u pop air pockets and what not...if its to wet it will rot the stem. this i another reason i grow in soil!....have u tryed the water thing yet?

 

[IHeartMarryJane]

i hear rockwool is hrd for newbs to clone with..if u squeeze it to hard u pop air pockets and what not...if its to wet it will rot the stem. this i another reason i grow in soil!....have u tryed the water thing yet?

yeah, i succeeded in peat pellets but never much luck with rockwool. yeah Im doing the water thing right now and it seems to be going great. No humidity dome or anything. Just sitting in water through foil with very light bloom nuets and peroxide. They are standing tall and green as can be. Looks like its kinda starting to grow little roots too. Im getting excited. This was too easy. Ill keep you updated. You just put yours into soil? hows your success rate?

 

[Dubstepn]

I've seen this method before and wanted to try it, I'm interested to see how you do because I have also failed with peats and Rockwool. A maintenance free cloning method sounds....LIKE A TRAP!

 

[IHeartMarryJane]

I've seen this method before and wanted to try it, I'm interested to see how you do because I have also failed with peats and Rockwool. A maintenance free cloning method sounds....LIKE A TRAP!

Well I really didnt think being this simple that this would work and im not 100% sure yet, but there are little tiny string like things floating from the stems in the water. I think they are roots because there are a bunch more since last night. But im trying not to get to excited yet...maybe its just the skin of the plant peeling. But they look like they are splitting like roots so we will see. Ill keep yall posted. We should know in a day or 2.

 

[Dubstepn]

Welllllllllllll?????

 

[tea tree]

I have cloned with a coffee can and an airstone many times. It takes like a week. But sometimes and I am sure it has to do with the weather it does not work. So I use my favoirte method but the most time consuming and that is rapid rooters. The key is you have to have to whole setup. Heat mat, clone dome, rr insert tray, and catch pan. The humidty is key for the first few days then slowly remove the dome for a few monutes at a time and in a week perfect easy to handle clones. But with water, warm water I think works better, if their is an airstone. I always had better luck dwc cloning when it was over 90 out. Also never wet the leaves, you have to let them absorb moisture for a few days from humid air, then they begin to grow roots to drink. About hardening them off. With water their is usually enough moisture so I dont need a dome. After that I plant them carefully in light warrior or peat with superthrive.

 

[IHeartMarryJane]

there are still a bunch of little white hairs coming off but they dont seem to be growing so im starting to doubt that they are roots. But they are still green, standing straight up, and even growing a little. I think its going to work i just have to be patient. I hear it takes a little while. Hasn't even been a week yet so yeah. I will def keep yall posted.

Im changing the water every couple days and putting the same bloom nuet, H2O2, water mix.

Yeah I need to just go buy one of those cloning machines. I have heard of people using an air stone and then puting the plant right outside of the water (not in it at all) and just letting the bubbles poppmaking the water splash up onto the stems. Seems smart. Think Ill try that next. Weather affecting it is an interesting theory but we do it in a closet and its pretty constant temp and humidity.

 

[guitarzan420]

well i can say i learn something new here all the time. i love this place!!! let us know how it goes! good luck!

 

[Papi Chingon]

condition the rockwool cubes first with either ph down or lemon juice. let them sit in that for about an hour or so, then rinse them under the sink. if you let the water in the faucet get warm, then place the cube under it, the second you feel the warm water come out the bottom it's done. do this to every one of the cubes individually to make sure it's done right. then get nsr greenleaves grow and boost juice, some type of root stimulator, and floralicious plus. use 5ml of grow, 10ml of boost juice, 1ml of floralicious plus, and 1ml (depends on the brand) of root stimulator. pour this over the cubes to make sure they're saturated (don't leave them sitting in water), then cut your clones and use rooting gel. once clones are cut and placed into the cubes, just put them in a tray, mist them, mist the propogation dome, and place them under the light. make sure your t5 isn't too close or else it will burn everything (2.5 feet above the dome is a good placement, imo). each day in the morning and at night mist the dome, and once a day mist the plants, but don't water them at all for the first week. after that, water the cubes a little bit with the same nute mixture and continue with the misting. within 14 days or so you will have clones that have roots, and no yellowing. hope this helps.

 

[darkdestruction420]

took me a long time to remember where this was.
water-cloning method

How do I clone plants?



As easy as cloning is to the masses that use powder, liquid/gel rooting hormone, bubblers and soil, etc. There is an even less complex method of cloning that is so easy, it must have been around for decades, if not centuries. The only ingredients involved are water, light, and the cutting you would like to root. In the example I?m going to show, I?ve cut three different sizes of clone. The first with two leaves and a single growing tip (S). The next has four nodes, but still only a couple large leaves (M). The third is 6? tall, has seven nodes and several sets of good-sized leaves (L).

As with normal cloning, you immediately dip the cutting in the water for about 15 to 30 seconds, tweaking it to dislodge any air bubbles that may be present. But the biggest difference is, you won?t be removing the cutting from the water until it has roots big enough to support the foliage above. Make sure the cup, which contains the cutting, is opaque. This prevents the light from shining directly on the roots.

So far, I?ve mentioned the cuttings and the water, but the most important part is the light. I have made this method work 100% of the time simply by sitting my cuttings on a windowsill that receives no direct sunlight. In fact, slightly shaded would be even better. In the evenings (short days), I sit them on an end table over 7 feet from a ceiling mounted 100-watt incandescent bulb. At bedtime, I just turn off the lights like normal, and when I get up in the AM its back to the windowsill. During the longer daylight hours they can be left on the sill full time. Remember, no direct sunlight.

The picture shows my three cuttings in their water cups. M & L have barely an inch of water to sit in. Any more and it would cover one of the leaf stems. The smaller one stayed in the plastic because the stem was too short to sit in water and stay upright in the cup. Do what?s necessary to keep at least ½? of the stem in the water.

Notice the glass that diffuses light, an extra measure against too much light exposure.

The clones grew roots at far different speeds. S showed in seven days, with a small ¼? long root and another small protrusion.

By the time S?s roots reached this level of development (nine days), L was just putting out the first nubs that would be roots. M has shown no inclination of rooting at all. Searching for an answer, I changed the water in Ms cup, but I think it boils down too the thickness of the stem. Both M&L have the same size stem but L has far more foliage on top.

S is doing far better than the others (seen below) and M is finally starting to show.

M showed roots in 14 days and was planted on day 18.
This picture was taken just before transplant.

L showed roots on day 11 and was in soil at day 18.
This picture was taken just before transplant.

S showed roots at seven days and was in the soil at 15.
This picture was taken just before transplant.

Transplanting is as easy as it ever is. I use a pre-fertilized potting soil, mixed with 1/2 perlite. I like the clear cups as I can see how soon they can be removed from the humidity dome. Fill a 4 oz cup with soil mix and swirl a hole an inch deep in the top, insert the plants roots and cover.

DO NOT WATER!! Watering will actually delay the roots growth into the new medium. You want it almost dry below so they search for the moisture. Make whatever mix you use semi-moist before transplant.

The dome you see is a cheapo Styrofoam cooler available from any grocery store for $2-$3. Toss the lid and cover with saran wrap with a 1/2 dozen 1/4" holes in it. What you see in the picture is a spare piece of plexi I have. It sits off centre to provide some venting. Simply set an open jar of water inside and close. The jar itself will keep the humidity at around 75%. If you don?t like this, just spray a couple times a day with plain water.

L showed itself almost overnight.

All were in the 320-watt veg area in roughly three weeks from cutting to final transplant.

That?s it, the easiest cloning method there is. No spraying, no overheating, no drying out, no hormones, just plant, light and water. Following these instructions, I?ve had a 100% success rate (The one that died actually drank all her water and I forgot to refill!). Good luck!

Added on: Saturday, March 24, 2007 Viewed: 7231 times


water cloning is incredibley easy. good luck

 

[Papi Chingon]

whoops, looks like i didn't read this thread correctly. i read a little bit at the start and saw there was problems with cubes and didn't read futher. i just responded to the cube cloning....my bad.