MasterD's DIY DWC/bubbleponics w/ pics

[masterd]

Thanks to Roseman and other bubbleheads and their pics and whatnot im going DWC/bubbleponics, im a tight arse and i like to build my own gear, so im building one myself, i also live in australia and dont know if i can even buy the stealth system here...

anyway started with a clear 50L tub, all the black ones were 2 small or couldnt get a lid 2 fit...(fuck bunnings), so i gave it the old white black white treatment, frst white to prime the plastic (plastic bends alot and without its likely to chip and peel) the black to stop light getting into the tank and the last light coat of white to stop it attracting more heat that it needs to (i run HID)

i then went about drilling holes in the top for the netpots, my holesaw being to small this was quite amusing for my mate to watch.... and i was way to lazy to go out and buy a bigger one.

the first one was just a laugh i cut a single whole in the top and used all sorts of shit to TRY and cut it out bigger...FAIL!!
so i eventually get the drill out with the biggest piece and cut whole 1-2mm apart and then cut the wholes out with a saw looking thing on a swiss army knife and did the same for the second.... it wasnt to bad but then i stoped smoking cones and straitened up...
the 3rd and 4th i drilled 3 holes with my larest holesaw and smoothed them out with my stanly knife and covered them with gaffa tape..

i then covered the top with mylar and and taped it down and cut 4 X's over the netpots

i also cut a small whole in the side and covered it with mylar and cut an X for the air lines and cords...

all i need are my bubblers & pumps which i should be getting tomorrow

any comments or critisizms welcome....





btw i always double my mylar over to make sure it actually STOPs light....anyway thanks for checking it out

 

[mcinnc]

looks great dude. just curious, why did you choose to do 4 in 1 as opposed to 4 seperate "buckets"?
i am assuming it was the obvious reason of it just being the easier way? are there any pros/cons to having it all together in one bucket? im a soil guy personally, but plan on going with the buckets next go around.

 

[masterd]

i just see it as why make 4 buckets? i just liked rosemans DIY tub and made a few changes, worked on it a bit today.... so ill have pics up in couple of hours, couldnt find a hub, so i dodgied it..

BTW any bubbleheads or anyone with experience know if a 2X180 (360)L/h air pump running 2 12 Inch air stones is sufficent for about 40L of water, i ran it today and it doesnt seem good enough, im going to swap it for another one tomorrow if i can, that is unless someone advises against it... anyway try to get some pics up

 

[tmsculli]

Ah! MasterD my friend, glad we were able to convert you at least to have you give it a try =P

A few things though...

Good call on the multilayer painting, it should definitely be light tight now from that aspect, but I am worried about that hole in the side for the cables and air hose lines. I think that you may have some issues with light leaks in there unless I am not seeing the pictures properly. Any light getting into the tank is no good. It is just going to cause algae to grow and start a bunch of issues so it is definitely something that you want to make sure is sorted out.

Besides that, it looks good man, best of luck to you.

and Mc,

The main differences would be growth cycles, and plant size. If you plan on harvesting at different times, growing different strains that need special nutrient treatment, or even transplanting them at some point you would want to use separate 5 gallon buckets for them. With the single tank it is much easier and makes sense as long as you don't plan on separating them. It is possible to get them out of there without harming the others, but it can get difficult. Eventually the roots of the plants will all link up together and form a giant mass that you wouldn't want to risk separating.

Hopefully that helps both of you out a bit.



Masterd, I can't seem to find the specs on the outputs for my air pumps. I know that they are for 20-60 gallon tanks but I know nothing about metric units that would help you =/

I use 2 of the 20-60 gallon air pumps, each running one 6" air circle and it works out fine.

 

[masterd]

the hole in the side will be double covered with more mylar and there will be no light leak, already checked it just havent permantly attached it yet, ill put pics up when its all done, thanks for the concern though, saw one dudes setup on another site and he had a see through top and couldnt figure out wh his plants wouldnt grow... some people just dont do the research.....
thanks for explaining that shi-at to mcinnc, so busy trying to get these mushrooms going and getting some ice in for some mother plants... ill get some newer pics up when i get a chace

BTW.... just snaped my 12 inch air stone..... i gotta stop having so many cones before i do this shit........ ohwell out with the silicon.....

 

[masterd]

sorry also

40L is 10.56 US gallon(res size)

2X180=360L is 2X47.54=95.09 US gallon (air pump cap.)

 

[masterd]

ok well apparently no1 in the hunter valley knows what a irragation hub is so ive dodgied my own up... its just 3 T peices.... anyway still not sure about this air pump, ill go get a bigger one anyway i think... the more air the better... and while im there i better get another air stone... heres some pics, ill enlarge them in a sec....

 

[akilleez]

Sweet build. Perfect for a small private grow.

 

[tmsculli]

There we go man, now we are talking. It looks great brother, keep us updated and best of luck to you man.

 

[rookie49]

BTW any bubbleheads or anyone with experience know if a 2X180 (360)L/h air pump running 2 12 Inch air stones is sufficent for about 40L of water, i ran it today and it doesnt seem good enough, im going to swap it for another one tomorrow if i can, that is unless someone advises against it... anyway try to get some pics up

that is enough. I had a successful grow using two twelve inch airstones and a 20 gal tub and they definitely grew okay.

 

[masterd]

that is enough. I had a successful grow using two twelve inch airstones and a 20 gal tub and they definitely grew okay.

thanks but im actually asking about the air pump size not the res and bubblers

 

[mcinnc]

very well explained bro. simple. makes sense too?? your of a dying breed my friend.
+ rizzzzzepp

 

[tmsculli]

Looks like you have plenty of bubbles brother. I would definitely say that you will be fine with the air pump situation set up like you do now.

 

[masterd]

cheers for teh imput everyone, looks like i might have to move very soon so im not gunna set anything up just yet

thanks for the rep mc

tm, thanks well ill find out when i use it anyway, also ive been checking ur grow every time im on here, looking good with the SCROG, good luck with it all

 

[BudJunky]

Hey man, I have been wanting to get into hydro for about a year now and this looks perfect for me to try on one plant (obviously downsizing your version). I do have one question though. Why is it necessary to have the drip lines in there?

I already use an aero cloner so would it be feasible for me to use just a netpot with clay pebbles to hold up the clone with the roots touching the surface of the water and a few air stones?

 

[masterd]

Hey man, I have been wanting to get into hydro for about a year now and this looks perfect for me to try on one plant (obviously downsizing your version). I do have one question though. Why is it necessary to have the drip lines in there?

the drip lines are for before the roots dip into the water to give them some nice oxygenated water, then you dont have to hand water

I already use an aero cloner so would it be feasible for me to use just a netpot with clay pebbles to hold up the clone with the roots touching the surface of the water and a few air stones?

I would have to see the setup im not familar with it, personally id keep the cloner, go buy a bucket, 2 pumps(1 water & 1 air) a netpot and some hygroton and get a seperate system going . But thats just me, get some pics up and if i cant help you someone else that pops in might

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[BudJunky]

I think you may have misunderstood me. I'm not turning my aero-cloner into a bubbleponic machine. I was referring to taking my rooted clones from the aero machine and putting them into a bubbleponic machine. Meaning that I could grow the roots long enough so that they would be sitting in the nute solution. In this scenario could I just use the same design as you without the driplines?

 

[masterd]

ah, well in that case yeah that seems fine i guess, the tubes also give amazing the plant mad growth early on, but if ur willing to sacrafice that itll still work

 

[audius]

not to far from what im doing,,ya got plenty of air but more is allways better

 

[Smallsn]

Where did you get the T's from and yeah Im in australia too. Its pretty hard looking for the materials to build a set up down here. Where did you buy the tubs and thee net pots?