Stoney McFried
Well-Known Member
Somebody obviously divorced you and it pissed you off, huh?
Marriage was created as a way to establish ownership of a woman and her property.It was also a means to ensure the paternity of children,because it granted him and only him the right to sexual favors from the woman he had married.It ensured the woman would be cared for in the event of the man's death, and that the children who shared his name would inherit his properties and holdings.
No, the same logic does not apply in the case of siblings, as any issue from such a marriage has an increased risk of birth defects and deformities.See inbreeding.
However, if more than two consenting adults wish to be married,I see no reason they cannot.Even in the Bible, polygamy was practiced.So any moral argument against that on religious grounds is a contradiction.
Perhaps in your world "I think this" and "I believe this" are a good enough reason for things to be done your way, but in the real world,most people would demand proof to support what you say regarding traditional marriage and its wonderful benefits as opposed to other lifestyles.Otherwise its just your opinion.
Wow.This sounds like socialism to me, Mr. Conservative.Yeah, let's have the state interfere in every custody case regardless of the unique individuals involved and their respective situations and force them to raise their children in exactly the way RickWhite thinks they should be!Fucking NOT!
Yeah, a scrap of paper obtained at the courthouse is the bedrock of the family, the country, its values!Because you don't truly love one another unless you're A. A man and a woman and B.Willing to "verify" those feelings through a legal or religious ceremony that really does nothing more than determine how the property is divided if you decide to break up.
Because only marriage can determine love!Only in marriage can anyone have children or a family!Only a man and woman together can raise a child!All other familial configurations,no matter how loving or nurturing,are wrong because they can't be verified on paper!
You know, the reason folks accuse you of being a homophobe,sexist, and bigot is because you sure do argue just like one. The louder one screams about homosexuals not getting the right to marry,the more one sounds like he dislikes them because of the things they do in the privacy of their own bedroom.The more interested one is in the doings of others in their private bedrooms,the more it makes one wonder if that person isn't really doing anything that interests them in their own.
I'm sure you'll argue now about me being one of those damn leftists that multiquotes and takes your entire argument out of context.The reason folks feel the need to do such a thing is because many of the things you say need to be addressed on an individual basis.If you cannot keep up, too bad for you.
Marriage was created as a way to establish ownership of a woman and her property.It was also a means to ensure the paternity of children,because it granted him and only him the right to sexual favors from the woman he had married.It ensured the woman would be cared for in the event of the man's death, and that the children who shared his name would inherit his properties and holdings.
Voting is a right guaranteed by the Constitution. Marriage on the other hand is not a right but an institution created by man to protect children, not for the narcissistic desires of the parents. In fact, combating the narcissistic desires of the parents is the primary reason for marriage.
No, the same logic does not apply in the case of siblings, as any issue from such a marriage has an increased risk of birth defects and deformities.See inbreeding.
However, if more than two consenting adults wish to be married,I see no reason they cannot.Even in the Bible, polygamy was practiced.So any moral argument against that on religious grounds is a contradiction.
Marriage has always been far more than just something two people do because they want to. First, we all need permission to get married. Marriage is also controlled by law. Siblings can not marry and people can not marry more than one person. If we re-define marriage to include same sex marriage, we MUST also allow those that wish to to marry their siblings or to marry more than one person because the same logic applies.
Perhaps in your world "I think this" and "I believe this" are a good enough reason for things to be done your way, but in the real world,most people would demand proof to support what you say regarding traditional marriage and its wonderful benefits as opposed to other lifestyles.Otherwise its just your opinion.
But the main reasons I defend traditional marriage are not tangible ones. I defend traditional marriage because I feel that men and women both contribute different things to the dynamic and that these things are meant to compliment each other and form a synergy that would be absent otherwise. It's kind of like the Yin and the Yang, or like peanut butter and jelly, they simply go together. It is as silly to me to ask for proof of this as to ask for proof that peanut butter and jelly belong together.
Wow.This sounds like socialism to me, Mr. Conservative.Yeah, let's have the state interfere in every custody case regardless of the unique individuals involved and their respective situations and force them to raise their children in exactly the way RickWhite thinks they should be!Fucking NOT!
I also think that children have rights and that one of these rights ought to be to have a stable home with a Mother and father. In fact, I believe that children of divorce should automatically be assigned a lawyer by the state and that a lawsuit regarding their interests should be filed on their behalf. I believe that children should automatically be entitled to damages in the event that their parents divorce and I think the parents should be prohibited from any further cohabitation until the children are 21 years of age. Another thing I think is called for is for children of divorced parents to be placed in their own home and the parents should stay at that home during their visitation time so that the lives of the children shall remain normal and uncomplicated. It is wrong and unfair to schlep the kids from one world to another. The kids didn't fuck up the home with their selfish ways so why should they be punished.
Yeah, a scrap of paper obtained at the courthouse is the bedrock of the family, the country, its values!Because you don't truly love one another unless you're A. A man and a woman and B.Willing to "verify" those feelings through a legal or religious ceremony that really does nothing more than determine how the property is divided if you decide to break up.
Because only marriage can determine love!Only in marriage can anyone have children or a family!Only a man and woman together can raise a child!All other familial configurations,no matter how loving or nurturing,are wrong because they can't be verified on paper!
You know, the reason folks accuse you of being a homophobe,sexist, and bigot is because you sure do argue just like one. The louder one screams about homosexuals not getting the right to marry,the more one sounds like he dislikes them because of the things they do in the privacy of their own bedroom.The more interested one is in the doings of others in their private bedrooms,the more it makes one wonder if that person isn't really doing anything that interests them in their own.
I'm sure you'll argue now about me being one of those damn leftists that multiquotes and takes your entire argument out of context.The reason folks feel the need to do such a thing is because many of the things you say need to be addressed on an individual basis.If you cannot keep up, too bad for you.
But see, all this demonstrates that issues of marriage are not as simple as letting people smoke pot if they wish. Marriage is a complex issue that involves more than what two adults feel like doing. Marriage has been one of the great bedrock institutions of all successful societies. It is not something that we can just change Willy nilly.