Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC

Bob Smith

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Mounted the generator an attached some ducting; still need to run ducting from the fan to the tent, but that shouldn't take but five minutes.

Also put a heating mat underneath the clones - figure the clones are fine without it, but I'd like the seedlings to have it on there - about 70 in the tent, figure they'd like high 70s better.

Gonna transplant the Ice seeds in a coupla hours.

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smokingrubber

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This should be very interesting. Have you run it for any period of time to make sure you're not about to broil them? Is the blower on a speed controller? Watch your temps closely when you fire that thing up.

We should set up a pool on how this goes ;) Sorry Bob.
 

Bob Smith

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This should be very interesting. Have you run it for any period of time to make sure you're not about to broil them? Is the blower on a speed controller? Watch your temps closely when you fire that thing up.

We should set up a pool on how this goes ;) Sorry Bob.
No, haven't even attached the propane tank yet and lit the pilot - figure tomorrow, if everything goes as planned.

No speed controller on the blower, but I'm going to point the hot air to blow onto my oscillating fan in there, which will (in theory) disperse that and the CO2, I hope - also, will only be running for 5-10 minutes every hour (for a minute or two at a time, I'm thinking), so nothing too horrendous would happen, methinks.

My exhaust fans also kick on at 80F, and they'd be able to exhaust the tent much more quickly then the 4" could get it hot enough to roast it.

Anyways, I've been thinking about that issue over the past couple of days, and will order one of these, if need be (almost certainly will be in the summertime).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270413680891&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=WXF%3F&GUID=9f4894461250a0b583813bd1ff95de11&itemid=270413680891&ff4=263602_263622

Already have a 50 gallon reservoir (catching my RO waste water), so all I'd need would be a large pump, which is $50.

Worst case scenario, I think that would remove a majority (or at least enough to make it workable) of the heat.

EDIT: That was a long-winded way of saying "I like my chances" ;)
 

Integra21

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We will have to see how it goes. If it fails and is too hot, you already have everything sitting there to do the hydrogen outside of the tent.
 

Bob Smith

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We will have to see how it goes. If it fails and is too hot, you already have everything sitting there to do the hydrogen outside of the tent.
Agreed, and will probably get the Hydrogen for the summer anyways, but I'm real, real confident I'm gonna pull this off.

Might need the heat exchanger, but I'll get it going.
 

Integra21

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you may be fine without it. I think you would have for sure with the one you ordered, have know idea about the big bad one you actually got. who ever thought a free upgrade might be a problem. But with that said, im fairly confident it will go well to, since there will be a lot of cool fresh air being pulled into the generator by the fan mixing and cooling as it goes which will also keep the burner itself cooler, just like air cooling, so my hopes are high as well. especially for the time it will be running, might only raise the temps a few deg. My buddy has a big one just like that in a bigger, not so well sealed room, and it only kicks on for a min. at a time. and as already stated, you have a backup plan, actually a couple of backup plans, so no worries.
 

Bob Smith

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you may be fine without it. I think you would have for sure with the one you ordered, have know idea about the big bad one you actually got. who ever thought a free upgrade might be a problem. But with that said, im fairly confident it will go well to, since there will be a lot of cool fresh air being pulled into the generator by the fan mixing and cooling as it goes which will also keep the burner itself cooler, just like air cooling, so my hopes are high as well. especially for the time it will be running, might only raise the temps a few deg. My buddy has a big one just like that in a bigger, not so well sealed room, and it only kicks on for a min. at a time. and as already stated, you have a backup plan, actually a couple of backup plans, so no worries.
Yeah, might look at taking a burner or two out if that seems to make sense - just need to test it out.

Pretty sure it's pretty easy to both install and remove burners from this thing (and, if I ever get the "urge", there's a $25 kit which lets me switch it over to natural gas with only a screwdriver and ten minutes) - that's if I ever decide to tap into the stove's line on the other side of the wall.
 

rbahadosingh

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Yuppers, December 1st was the first day of 12/12 - you too, right?
yeah. i was asking because i looked at your pictures and your buds seemed a little small... maybe it was because of the photo. mine are all swelling up quickly. also might be strain related. also might be because your ladies are bigger... who knows?

btw. if your wanted some PK i would send you a clone so u can start a mother....
 

Bob Smith

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yeah. i was asking because i looked at your pictures and your buds seemed a little small... maybe it was because of the photo. mine are all swelling up quickly. also might be strain related. also might be because your ladies are bigger... who knows?

btw. if your wanted some PK i would send you a clone so u can start a mother....
Wish it was all because of the photo :?

In their defense, the photo doesn't really do them justice - they actually are packing on weight pretty decent (flowered way, way, way, way too tall this go round, so will be happy to get a 1/2 lb. off this harvest - necessitated me using a net to keep height down, unfortunately).

Also, these flower times are s'posed to be 9-11 weeks, so if you're rocking out a solid 7 week strain, that'll do it, too.

And I appreciate the offer vis a vis the PK - I'll PM you and we'll see what we can figure out.
 

rbahadosingh

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Wish it was all because of the photo :?

In their defense, the photo doesn't really do them justice - they actually are packing on weight pretty decent (flowered way, way, way, way too tall this go round, so will be happy to get a 1/2 lb. off this harvest - necessitated me using a net to keep height down, unfortunately).

Also, these flower times are s'posed to be 9-11 weeks, so if you're rocking out a solid 7 week strain, that'll do it, too.

And I appreciate the offer vis a vis the PK - I'll PM you and we'll see what we can figure out.

it probably was because of the photo. i think you'll get more than a 1/2lb. im almost sure you will. especially with the use of co2. my strain is a 8-10 week strain. i think im going to go 8 weeks. but im not 100% sure yet. when 7 weeks hit and they are all swollen my fingers start itching to grab the scissors and begin cutting. im going to try my hardest to go 8 weeks though. im going to take some pictures of my ladies tomorrow so you can see how they are coming along.
 

greenlanter

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well i ask before and dont knw if you got the q or not ... nypd is in my posesion and i have room for 4 more pots in my closet but have no input on this darn strain, you are the onlyone i have found who is growing it and i have some q ... on nutes intake and grow ratios , also if is a good cloner and if it any diff phenotypes has shown to you???
 

Bob Smith

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it probably was because of the photo. i think you'll get more than a 1/2lb. im almost sure you will. especially with the use of co2. my strain is a 8-10 week strain. i think im going to go 8 weeks. but im not 100% sure yet. when 7 weeks hit and they are all swollen my fingers start itching to grab the scissors and begin cutting. im going to try my hardest to go 8 weeks though. im going to take some pictures of my ladies tomorrow so you can see how they are coming along.
Yeah, probably gonna run my CO2 a little higher with the generator, shoot to average more like 1750 or 1800.

Ran some more numbers, and I'm pretty fugging confident this is gonna work splendidly (at least during the winter, when the ambient garage temps are in the low 50s).

My yield is gonna suck because I've basically taken a 4x4 footprint and turned it into a 2.5x2.5 effective flowering area.

Oh well, first grow in a decade, not gonna cry about it.
 

Bob Smith

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well i ask before and dont knw if you got the q or not ... nypd is in my posesion and i have room for 4 more pots in my closet but have no input on this darn strain, you are the onlyone i have found who is growing it and i have some q ... on nutes intake and grow ratios , also if is a good cloner and if it any diff phenotypes has shown to you???
Yeah, got your question before, and answered it - seems to clone fine, takes nutes just as well as my other plants, etc. - haven't noticed different phenos yet, but the buds aren't really starting to stink, which is when the lemony/citrus pheno will make itself known, I believe.

Maybe some more specific questions would help me help you better?

As an aside, all of the other ten beans (Master Kush and AK-48) have popped, and I transplanted them all into rapid rooters in my humidity dome - always nice to have some babies around.
 

Bob Smith

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So I'm a little bored and have been doing some planning for the expansion - can't decide whether to do two 4x4 trays under a 1K each, or to do four 600s covering 3x3 trays.

If the 3x3 trays, can't figure out whether to do a long rectangle design (3x12) or a square (6x6).

Wondering this because at 7', these tents don't really have enough head room for me, so I'm thinking I'm going to have to build a DIY tent setup - opens up a lot more possibilities that way (could build a stand like I did for my veg tent, worst comes to worst.).

Anyhow, right now I'm leaning towards building an 8x8 tent and putting four 600s over 3x3 trays in there.

Uses more light, and spreads it better from four light sources as opposed to two light sources - have never used a 600, and I'm hesitant to downgrade from a more powerful light to less powerful lights, but I think that makes the most sense to me at this point in time.

I'm just kinda in love with the thought of light hitting plants from four different directions, in all honesty.

I'm gonna start a new thread in the design and setup forum when the time comes, but if anyone would like to throw their $.02 during the brainstorming part of the program, would love to hear it.
 

smokingrubber

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So I'm a little bored and have been doing some planning for the expansion - can't decide whether to do two 4x4 trays under a 1K each, or to do four 600s covering 3x3 trays.

If the 3x3 trays, can't figure out whether to do a long rectangle design (3x12) or a square (6x6).

Wondering this because at 7', these tents don't really have enough head room for me, so I'm thinking I'm going to have to build a DIY tent setup - opens up a lot more possibilities that way (could build a stand like I did for my veg tent, worst comes to worst.).

Anyhow, right now I'm leaning towards building an 8x8 tent and putting four 600s over 3x3 trays in there.

Uses more light, and spreads it better from four light sources as opposed to two light sources - have never used a 600, and I'm hesitant to downgrade from a more powerful light to less powerful lights, but I think that makes the most sense to me at this point in time.

I'm just kinda in love with the thought of light hitting plants from four different directions, in all honesty.

I'm gonna start a new thread in the design and setup forum when the time comes, but if anyone would like to throw their $.02 during the brainstorming part of the program, would love to hear it.
You asked for .02 so I might as well. I've been thinking about this myself. Since you have money to burn, here goes.

You're aware of the barrel/controller/bucket setup I have (Ebb & Grow by CAP). Imagine that setup with Flood Tables instead of buckets! The 55 gallon res would fill a 3x3 no problem.

Build a grid platform on the ground with 2x4s. Put the 3x3 tray on top and put the controller bucket on the ground next to it. Slightly raising the controller would allow you to control the height of the flood. You could easily run 3 or 4 controller buckets off one barrel at staggered times. You could flood a large area and only have to worry about dealing with the 55 gal barrel.

This would allow you to have the flood tables 4" off the ground. You would have the FULL height of the tent available. Plus, you would be able to walk around in there.
 
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