Uncle Ben's Gardening Tweeks and Pointers

Uncle Ben

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Years ago I made one, CHEAP, by beggin' for parts and having a few laying around the garage. This is a walk down memory lane (this one is about 14 years old.)

Here's mine from an old post:

Yep, this thing's the cat's meow. Just fired the gen. up and it sure is great. Gives off a bluish-purple hue, a little bit of a buzz and a fresh odor like you're at a waterfall. Very nice suttle smell of ozone - I will put it on a timer.

CONSTRUCTION:

I used a free 7500V neon transformer that a sign vendor gave me, got some scrap (but new) alum. window screen, an 8' 18/3 cord with a male plug, some wood screws, a cheap 3 1/2 X 5" piece of glass from a cheapo photo frame, and got after it. Total cost, about $6.

Mounted the transformer using its base mounts to a 4" X 17" X 3/4" plywood board, attached the 18/3 wire cord to the primary side of the transformer including the ground wire for safety.

Cut two screens about 3/8" smaller than the outside dimensions of the glass. I then folded one corner over, punched a small hole with an ice pick through the corner and threaded some wire through the hole so it would be easy to solder - the physical contact between the stripped wire coming from the secondary side of the transformer thru the hole must be good. I soldered the wire leads to the corner of the precut screens using a little flux for prepping, a heavy duty solder iron, and regular flux core electronic solder. Be sure the wire is twisted tightly so that a positive solder connection can be made. After the wires were affixed to the screens, I mounted them to the plate glass, one on each side, using a hot glue gun with about a drop at each corner of the screen. The wire gauge from the secondary side to the screen should be 16 or better.

Mounted the plate glass (using the glue gun) in a groove (which I cut with a table saw) directly in front of the mounted transformer, and connected the screen wire leads to the secondary side of the transformer.

As an aside, had a problem with the glue sticking to the glass initially, so I chemically frosted off the "gloss" by using etching solution found at hobby stores. You should do this or the vibration from the plates will be such that the glue will not hold. Also, found that "Goop" glue with a hot glue gun worked the best after frosting the glass. Silicon cement should also work well.

Good luck,
Uncle Ben
 

dakin3d

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Hey UB,

Hope all is well on your end. I was just wondering if you are familiar or have any experience w/ this nutrient solution:

Modified Hoagland's Nutrient Solution #1

Macronutrients Concentration

millimolar (mM) Chemical
1 KH2PO4
5 KNO3
5 Ca(NO3)2 * 4H2O
2 MgSO4 * 7H2O

Micronutrients Concentration

micromolar (µM) Chemical
11.8 MnSO4 * H2O
0.7 ZnSO4 * 7H2O
0.32 CuSO4 * 5H2O
0.16 (NH4)6Mo7O24 *4H2O
46.3 H3BO3
5 Sequestrene 330 (10% Fe)

Saw some impressive results w/ this solution compared to a control, Scotts 15-16-17, and Peters 20-10-20 in an aero/semi-DWC Hydro setups. Experiment done by a professor @ Texas A&M.

Cheers, dak
 

Uncle Ben

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Hey UB,

Hope all is well on your end. I was just wondering if you are familiar or have any experience w/ this nutrient solution:

Modified Hoagland's Nutrient Solution #1

Macronutrients Concentration

millimolar (mM) Chemical
1 KH2PO4
5 KNO3
5 Ca(NO3)2 * 4H2O
2 MgSO4 * 7H2O

Micronutrients Concentration

micromolar (µM) Chemical
11.8 MnSO4 * H2O
0.7 ZnSO4 * 7H2O
0.32 CuSO4 * 5H2O
0.16 (NH4)6Mo7O24 *4H2O
46.3 H3BO3
5 Sequestrene 330 (10% Fe)

Saw some impressive results w/ this solution compared to a control, Scotts 15-16-17, and Peters 20-10-20 in an aero/semi-DWC Hydro setups. Experiment done by a professor @ Texas A&M.

Cheers, dak
Howdy, sounds like a take off on an old Cornell recipe. I have a lot of respect for anything the Aggies do. They have a very polished, professional, and dedicated staff both on campus and the hundreds of extension agents spread throughout the state, plus, I got my Master Gardener's certificate thru TX A&M. ;)

FWIW, Dyna-Gro foods are more complete.
 

tical916

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Quick question for you. I've got a closet sized room. 4x4x6, 5 plants at a time with a 400w. Would opening/keeping the door opened daily be enough fresh air exchange keep the heat relatively down?
 

doogleef

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Quick question for you. I've got a closet sized room. 4x4x6, 5 plants at a time with a 400w. Would opening/keeping the door opened daily be enough fresh air exchange keep the heat relatively down?
Kind of off topic but I'' humor ya,

Proper ventilation is very important. Don't skimp on fans or you will have temp issues, especially when the hotter summer months roll around. If your garden temperature is more than about 10 degrees warmer than the ambient temp in your house you need more exhaust. I like inline centrifugal fans but the squirrel cage style blowers work well too.

Rule #1 Environment is everything, (lighting, vents, medium moisture, balanced nutrition)

Rule #2 Genetics is everything else.
 

tical916

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I have a large floor fan behind the plants blowing out the door. Also ducting with a 6" inline fan for when I must have the door shut.

My problem I can't cut a hole in the wall/ceiling of the closet so the only air exchange will be when the door is open.
 

riddleme

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Kind of off topic but I'' humor ya,

Proper ventilation is very important. Don't skimp on fans or you will have temp issues, especially when the hotter summer months roll around. If your garden temperature is more than about 10 degrees warmer than the ambient temp in your house you need more exhaust. I like inline centrifugal fans but the squirrel cage style blowers work well too.

Rule #1 Environment is everything, (lighting, vents, medium moisture, balanced nutrition)

Rule #2 Genetics is everything else.
A great grow is the SUM OF ALL PARTS don't skimp on any of them if your looking for success

how everything in your enviroment exist and co-exist is supreme
 

Kriegs

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I have a large floor fan behind the plants blowing out the door. Also ducting with a 6" inline fan for when I must have the door shut.

My problem I can't cut a hole in the wall/ceiling of the closet so the only air exchange will be when the door is open.
I know from experience that a closet that size and a 400W cannot co-exist without the door open virtually all the time (been there). Air exchange isn't an issue - you'll have plenty -- but heat will be. You will have to have a bigger space, or a way to outlet that heat. You'll be over 100F in there with the door closed for long.
 

tical916

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I know from experience that a closet that size and a 400W cannot co-exist without the door open virtually all the time (been there). Air exchange isn't an issue - you'll have plenty -- but heat will be. You will have to have a bigger space, or a way to outlet that heat. You'll be over 100F in there with the door closed for long.
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Thanks that is my main concern. I`m guessing a cooltube will be mandatory then. Guess gotta go a little over budget.
 

goofygolfer

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hi ub

i just spent hrs reading this thread and came away a richer person. forewarned is forarmed. thanks for taking time to answer question and the knowledge you impart. knowing how a plant works does make for a better gardener . and i will diff be geting that book by mel frank .
 

Uncle Ben

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hi ub

i just spent hrs reading this thread and came away a richer person. forewarned is forarmed. thanks for taking time to answer question and the knowledge you impart. knowing how a plant works does make for a better gardener . and i will diff be geting that book by mel frank .
Glad you enjoy it.

I like most started with closet growing. It was convenient, very effective, and cheap. I kept the door cracked about 8" and ran a window fan on the floor directing cool floor air in which drove hot air out. I think I was using a 250W HPS then with the ballast contained in the hood, which spells heat in a hot area of Texas. The secret to good lighting is painting the back wall white, making reflective panels out of cardboard about 5' tall and wide enough so they can be sandwiched in on each side of your plants, right next to them and moved outward as the footprint expands. If your closet depth is 24", cut your panels 26" wide so that you won't need any supports for them, they just spring load into the closet. 3 coats of a ultra bright white paint works great and is easy to clean or just repaint if they get dirty. I would not go with mylar because of the maintenance but did line the inside of the door with shiny aluminum foil.
 

tical916

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Glad you enjoy it.

I like most started with closet growing. It was convenient, very effective, and cheap. I kept the door cracked about 8" and ran a window fan on the floor directing cool floor air in which drove hot air out. I think I was using a 250W HPS then with the ballast contained in the hood, which spells heat in a hot area of Texas. The secret to good lighting is painting the back wall white, making reflective panels out of cardboard about 5' tall and wide enough so they can be sandwiched in on each side of your plants, right next to them and moved outward as the footprint expands. If your closet depth is 24", cut your panels 26" wide so that you won't need any supports for them, they just spring load into the closet. 3 coats of a ultra bright white paint works great and is easy to clean or just repaint if they get dirty. I would not go with mylar because of the maintenance but did line the inside of the door with shiny aluminum foil.
I line the whole room with panda film. I like the reflectors idea, I`m going to have to steal that. I`m using a light with a seperate ballast?? Anyways I can keep it outside the grow room, so hopefully that will help with heat.
 

bikerguy333

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I line the whole room with panda film. I like the reflectors idea, I`m going to have to steal that. I`m using a light with a seperate ballast?? Anyways I can keep it outside the grow room, so hopefully that will help with heat.
So im sorry to just hop into this thread.A couple of guys on here told me to find uncle ben so this is were i start.Im on my sec medical grow and i growing in 5 gal pots with roots org soil they are 6weeks into flowering i veg for 5 weeks.can you please help me is this nute burn or a deficiency.here are some pics she is white rhino from nirvana. under i 600 watt hps.Ph if been giving her is 6.5-6.8 run off is 6.0-6-2.let me know if you can help
 

EdGreyfox

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Uncle,

I spent several hours working my way through this thread, and i've got to thank you for all the fantastic advice you've provided.

I'm on my first grow so I I only have a lot of book/internet knowledge without much practical experience to back it up (other then growing garden vegetables as a kid 30 years ago). The person who helped me set up my grow (soil,using clones) is a big fan of the Fox Farm system and convinced me to try it out, so I'm wondering what you're thoughts are on how well balanced it is if you're using the full system (all 3 nutes plus the 4 supplements)? I know I can't just blindly follow their weekly feeding chart, but if I follow their mix recommendations am i going to end up with NPK concentrations that all fall into the right range to keep my girls healthy during the entire flowering stage, or am I going to need to tweak them a bit to make sure there is enough N?
 
This is a little random but I was wondering about the importance of the amount of direct sun light that a plant receives outdoors, can a grow obtain at least average yields when more indirect light is received rather than direct? Or how intense is indirect sunlight
 

Uncle Ben

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Uncle,

I spent several hours working my way through this thread, and i've got to thank you for all the fantastic advice you've provided.
Glad you enjoyed your journey.

I'm on my first grow so I I only have a lot of book/internet knowledge without much practical experience to back it up (other then growing garden vegetables as a kid 30 years ago). The person who helped me set up my grow (soil,using clones) is a big fan of the Fox Farm system....
Systems, whether it be Formby or Fox are marketing gimmicks with their multi products and supplements. Doesn't mean their products are bad, I just don't have the time to wade thru all the stuff nor do I wish to pay the increased cost for stuff that one part products offer. Sorry, but I don't do Fox so I'm not the guy to ask.

bikerguy333, those photos should be done under natural light for anyone to get a good rendering of color, which is important. The necrotic dots does look like stress from nutes. Next step - leaf drop.

Good luck,
UB
 

bikerguy333

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here you go uncle ben.I hope this helps you help me because im confused.i have flushed a couple times now and it looks to be getting worse.from what i have gatherd is the super skunk got nute burnt and the white rhino is lacking somthing but that is hopfully where you come in.thanks for looking tho.
 

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bikerguy333

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here you go uncle ben.I hope this helps you help me because im confused.i have flushed a couple times now and it looks to be getting worse.from what i have gatherd is the super skunk got nute burnt and the white rhino is lacking somthing but that is hopfully where you come in.thanks for looking tho.
the top 10 are white rhino the lower ones are super skunk.thanks again!!!!
 
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