Proof of the existence of an intelligent Creator and what His purpose of mankind is
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CrackerJax
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Yes, that was my first comment. It's in our heads.
rookie 420
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People have always tried to find ways to explain everything, it's the power of our intellectual capability. I do not think that I am smarter than people who choose religion, I actually embrace their decision. Atheism just gives me the ability to wait for the next best option, I'm not even going to address the paranormal beliefs (thats reaching). I agree that in any religious or non-religious setting a person draws their own conclusion based on personal experiences or wants. I don't think that it is fair or even reasonable to place the blame for histories worste times soley on religion. The only problem with excusing religion is that it is one of the only common variables in all of the terrible acts through time, the only other common variable is human intellect. I think that we are more to blame for these atrocities than religion.
CrackerJax
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I recognize that religious ppl are fearful.
It's all about death, and not wanting to face up to mortality. Without immortality ... what exactly is modern man doing? It's something most ppl cannot deal with directly, and religion provides a crutch to them. the more adherent a person is to their myth dogma, the more fear they have. The truly adamant followers usually turn out to be the most dangerous. These are truly fearful and desperate ppl., and in the end, your NOT believing as they do infringes on their well being. You must be addressed. You will not be left alone by this sort of person/sect.
It's all about death, and not wanting to face up to mortality. Without immortality ... what exactly is modern man doing? It's something most ppl cannot deal with directly, and religion provides a crutch to them. the more adherent a person is to their myth dogma, the more fear they have. The truly adamant followers usually turn out to be the most dangerous. These are truly fearful and desperate ppl., and in the end, your NOT believing as they do infringes on their well being. You must be addressed. You will not be left alone by this sort of person/sect.
Sparky4u
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NO hauntings, chief. Simply asking you not to lock the wrong doors in your life.
I do get frustrated with people who discount anything, everything, and including themselves or their potential origins. It CAN hinder their potential growth.
Acknowledging infinite does not mean you need to choose any religion by any means.
My apologies, I guess I underestimated that some do need science to attempt explanations for them, please continue waiting on other humans for your answers to life.
MOrgantaler, astrology does influence us, among other things, we are 90% water right?
Energy comes from within as well, some are closer to finding it that others.
Just dont see any apparitions anytime soon, if you do, simply refer to your science journal of other people making peceptual observations in the dark for conclusions.
Physicality isnt 5 % of what is currently going on around you, yet you cling to it with all your might.
Remember from your article
"On the other hand, in its Science and Engineering Indicators report, the National Science Board (NSB) asserts that belief in the paranormal can be dangerous. According to the NSB, belief in the paranormal is a sign of reduced critical thinking skills and a reduced ability to make day-to-day decisions. However, since it's virtually impossible to prove that something does not exist, people will probably continue to believe in ghosts and haunted houses, especially since unexplained events aren't likely to go away anytime soon."
You are being steered by other humans (NSB) with these types of statements. I am being steered by none, and am simply telling you that you do not need to be either.
Why not just be Morgentaler, instead of Morgentaler the Athiest? Why choose a position that cannot be proven by any? Does this not take faith to do so?
Your faith is simply in the men of the day who can find relationships that already existed. These relationships existed long before any "empirical" evidences ever did. Follow on man, follow on...
I do get frustrated with people who discount anything, everything, and including themselves or their potential origins. It CAN hinder their potential growth.
Acknowledging infinite does not mean you need to choose any religion by any means.
My apologies, I guess I underestimated that some do need science to attempt explanations for them, please continue waiting on other humans for your answers to life.
MOrgantaler, astrology does influence us, among other things, we are 90% water right?
Energy comes from within as well, some are closer to finding it that others.
Just dont see any apparitions anytime soon, if you do, simply refer to your science journal of other people making peceptual observations in the dark for conclusions.
Physicality isnt 5 % of what is currently going on around you, yet you cling to it with all your might.
Remember from your article
"On the other hand, in its Science and Engineering Indicators report, the National Science Board (NSB) asserts that belief in the paranormal can be dangerous. According to the NSB, belief in the paranormal is a sign of reduced critical thinking skills and a reduced ability to make day-to-day decisions. However, since it's virtually impossible to prove that something does not exist, people will probably continue to believe in ghosts and haunted houses, especially since unexplained events aren't likely to go away anytime soon."
You are being steered by other humans (NSB) with these types of statements. I am being steered by none, and am simply telling you that you do not need to be either.
Why not just be Morgentaler, instead of Morgentaler the Athiest? Why choose a position that cannot be proven by any? Does this not take faith to do so?
Your faith is simply in the men of the day who can find relationships that already existed. These relationships existed long before any "empirical" evidences ever did. Follow on man, follow on...
Woodstock.Hippie
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PadawanBater
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What exists beyond the pillars of perception?
CrackerJax
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Some folks are more gullible than others I suppose.
mindphuk
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Yes, rational thinkers are heavily swayed by what others tell them.
Wow, were 90% water so Astrology must be right? I think you might need some humans to guide you a bit. An atom is mostly space; we're made up entirely of atoms. Doesn't that mean things should pass right through us? Damn that science, always coming up with reasons I can't walk through walls.
morgentaler
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Astrology influences people who believe that a bunch of vague generalizations about personalities rule their day.
It has nothing to do with water.
It has nothing to do with gravitational influences.
Astrological charts are based on the idea that the sky is a two dimensional construct applied to a sphere around the earth.
It does not consider the idea that one star in a constellation might be 50 light years away and another 50 million. Nor does it convey any explanation as to why a planet's orbit passing in front of it means "you will be good at love this week".
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So astrology influences us in the same way one might say "Hey, look over there!" and when you look, I steal your dessert off your lunch tray.
Would you like a horoscope? That chocolate bar looks tasty.
Everything around you is physical. Every neuron firing in your brain, the chemical reactions that take place.
You can observe physical reality.
You can even use those processes to create fiction. And then worship it.
There is an invisible monkey that sits on your head your entire life, shitting out undetectable strange matter which runs down your face and can only be seen by the intelligent slime molds of a planet 38 billion light years away.
It's virtually impossible for you to prove that the monkey does not exist.
By your reasoning, would you be a believer in invisible monkeys now?
Humanity is a creative organism. We can lie. Some of you make religion out of it. I don't have that need.
1) Because a bunch of superstitious idiots think it's imperative to put their belief in a magic man in the sky into our schools, courts, and government. A system built on reason and evidence trumps one based on religion. Why are gays evil? God says so. Why can't I eat shellfish? God says so? Why am I going to be tortured for not believing in god? God says so. Funny. Nobody living has ever seen this god, a god that comes from people who didn't understand things like sanitation and health trying to explain away the world.
2) If you want to claim that astrology influences us and the god is real, that's up to you to prove. I'm not going to start believing in your mythology just because you assert it is so.
3) No.
If you read about an experiment in a science textbook, you can reproduce that experiment and see for yourself. Some experiments you can do in a kitchen, while others would require extensive training and equipment, but you can reproduce them, given enough time.
The nature of religion and superstition is that a case is stated and if you are unable to reproduce that case you simply "aren't trying hard enough" or "don't believe enough".
And that is the mark of a fraud, perpetrated on the naive and gullible.
Big P
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I think horescopes and thier tendency to explain personalities born in certain times of the year may be due to the fact that depending what part of the year you were in your mothers womb and what month you came out could have effect on your personality
like say if I was born during the summer. my mother would have been doing fun summer things and maybe talking to a lot of people and stuff maybe spending a lot of time outdoors in the nice weather, while i was in her womb so in effect could cause me to have a pre-bias to come out with a certain personality type that is commen for infants born in that particular time of year in that particular region.
I can see how differences in off springs born in different seasons could create slightly predictible and different personality traits,
but that other astrological shit is bs
like say if I was born during the summer. my mother would have been doing fun summer things and maybe talking to a lot of people and stuff maybe spending a lot of time outdoors in the nice weather, while i was in her womb so in effect could cause me to have a pre-bias to come out with a certain personality type that is commen for infants born in that particular time of year in that particular region.
I can see how differences in off springs born in different seasons could create slightly predictible and different personality traits,
but that other astrological shit is bs
mindphuk
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when you are born, the obstetrician has more gravitational pull on you than the planets.
Stoney McFried
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Hey...that gravitational pull thing...can I blame that for why my ass sticks out farther than I'd like it to?
mindphuk
Well-Known Member
Naw stoney, your ass is fine.Hey...that gravitational pull thing...can I blame that for why my ass sticks out farther than I'd like it to?
Stoney McFried
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Then why do my backup lights keep shorting out?
Naw stoney, your ass is fine.
CrackerJax
New Member
Because ur sweater is on too tight..... Those high beams are shorting out ur tail lights...
Stoney McFried
Well-Known Member
It must be,I can't even see it.....and I've had two kids who I breast fed.I think you mean low beams.
