Quantum Physics Proposes Life After Death

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
So essentially your response is "it's far too complex for you to understand, so just take their conclusions at face value".

[/COLOR][/B]Where are these fully authenticated and documented visits of incarnate beings? I'm under the impression there has never been a single authenticated case of this paranormal activity. Every claim of one of these manifestations upon further investigation proves it either fraudulent, having some natural explanation, or is inconclusive.
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to come off as if yes, it's too complex for you feeble minds.... just take my word for it. I think it's still just a mathematical theory right now, but I just wanted to talk about the whole subject. Like I thought it was prett funny that the guy said he spoke with the man who invented in the infrared camera..lol. Idk if I believe that. I'd like to see these "well documented experiments" also, but I don't consider quantum physicists to be bullshitters lol. They wouldn't say something they couldn't back up because there's a lot of people scrutinizing everything they say.
 

Encomium

Active Member
The reason that they didn't include 'proof' with the article is because it's 4 pages long. I haven't read it yeat but I'm going to in peices.
http://www.cfpf.org.uk/articles/background/scientificproof/scientificproof1.html

I just wanted to have a conversation about it, whether you believe it or not. I think the argument that because it's posted online makes it any less valid is yeah, a little stupid. I 'm sorry. It's posted ne because if it wasn't nobody would know about it. And even if you don't agree with the whole thing, you gotta admit that it's a pretty interesting. I mean, who thought that life after death was even on the list of stuff to research lol. It's important because it fits in with current accepted physics and science. Turns out the one thing holding them back some of the laws proposed by Albert Einstein, but they cite a quote by einstien himself where he basically says the he "may have been on the wrong track after all."
Just to clarify, it's not that the article was posted online but the fact that it doesn't include any supporting documents or experiments, in link form or footnote/bibliography. If this article was not posted online and published via magazine or other outlet then not providing a bibliography or footnotes makes the article less credible than the same article with supporting evidence provided.

At any rate I'm open to the idea that spirit/mind does exist and that a "higher" consciousness may mold our perception of the world.
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
^ good link. fun read and helps others expand their mind.
I love stuff like this. Another part I found particulary interesting is the part that said that this discovery doesn't necessarily disprove the idea of an intelligent design. I'm not so blind that I believe in the judeo-christian man in the clouds, but I do belive there's something that planned all this.
What especially fucked my brain hole was the part that said that consciousness was a "non-material extension to space-time."
Another British astrophysicist and sub-atomic researcher, Michael Scott, BSc, a graduate of Edinburgh University, cites Niels Bohr's "Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics" as seeming to actually require the existence of consciousness as a non-material extension to space-time. Scott makes the point that sub-atomic physics, as explored by him and other researchers worldwide, no longer views the building blocks of the universe as discrete particles of solid substance, but rather as vague, wavelike structures whose existence borders on the ethereal.
In one context of observation, this grid itself could be seen as the Creator-Sustainer of All Things for a number of parallel but separate universes. This premise does not, however, negate the possibility of an even higher, ultimate, Intelligence behind the grid.
"People need to be made aware that their religious faiths have a base strongly supportable by modern physics. There is no longer any reason to think of science and religion as basically incompatible."
Just to clarify, it's not that the article was posted online but the fact that it doesn't include any supporting documents or experiments, in link form or footnote/bibliography. If this article was not posted online and published via magazine or other outlet then not providing a bibliography or footnotes makes the article less credible than the same article with supporting evidence provided.
Oh my bad. I see.
 

RawBudzski

Well-Known Member
Thats whats cool about it, their are people such as you and myself who can wrap their mind around many different subjects, understand them. Yet not let it shake our own beliefs, we dont automatically refuse certain things cause we were taught todo so in Catholic school or some bs sunday service.. all Humans are not Equal. Some have moved on, others are stuck in more primitive ways of thinking. Thats a fact. its when the Religious Nutt Jobs FEEL they deserve an EQUAL say when in reality they dont. Crazy is crazy and the mental issues that may arise with religious ppl is disregarded.
 

mindphuk

Well-Known Member
[video=youtube;MJBmWvuTrVY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJBmWvuTrVY[/video]


Is consciousness a quantum product? If so, then maybe there is some sort of afterlife.
 

Straight Sativa

Well-Known Member
Nice read. But as mentioned it did ramble on about some rather extraneous biographical information at times.

But one thing this article did not touch upon is a scenario like:

what happens if you get shot in the head while incarnate and your brains are turned to mush? Would this somehow effect or hinder the process of subatomic particles transitioning properly to make the afterlife version of yourself in the same "mental/physical" state as you were when living?

And for that matter...if you were shot in the head with a 12 guage, is that how your "soul" would appear to others in your past world.?
 

Sinsay

Well-Known Member
energy/matter can not be created or destroyed just changed from one form to the next :) & that was a bit before Quantum Physics

 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
Any thoughts?
Well, this guy says the greek had a controversy about consciousness; whether consciousness is created in the brain or if consciousness is a part of the universe and we just access it. Consciousness is one of those subjects that is of incredible interest to me because if you think about it too long, it can drive you mad. How do we truly know that we exist? That this isn't just a dream or something. Am I real because I see things? Because I can feel pain? Is an ant conscious? Is my dog conscious?
What about the idea of universal consciousness? That we all access a universal knowledge like Edgar Casey.
Check this out. pretty interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEpUIcOodnM&feature=related
 

mugan

Well-Known Member
wow beanz, long read :) sounds coo i like to live my life with an open mind and if they find a way to prove this to me al belive but i will not change my out look on morality,
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
wow beanz, long read :) sounds coo i like to live my life with an open mind and if they find a way to prove this to me al belive but i will not change my out look on morality,
Yeah man for sure.
That reminds me of something else this article made me think about.
Suppose that that it's all true, and there is sub-atomic 'life after death.' The article says that beliefs play no role in whether or not you make it to the afterlife, and that you yourself impart punishment, i.e. 'hell', based on your own beliefs. So if you don't believe in punishment after death, you won't be tormented in the 'after-life.'
OK.
So what do you think would happen if the entire world accepted this as truth? Would the world fall into chaos and anarchy? Where do you draw your morals from? The bible? Disney? Eastern philosophy? Jesus?
I know that the super religious people will just deny it altogether, but what about the rest of us?
 

DrFever

New Member
i posted this on another thread once your dead your dead sure when you die the light you think your seeing is your brain fighting for air
what actually happens is once your pronounced dead all your muscles relax and you litterally shit your self but guess what your brain is still living for about another hr once your pronounced dead so your brain is flashing sending signals to other parts of your organs to feed me oxygen lol when a person is on a operating tble before a operation hes well awake lookin around , if you think your not your selfconscious is so they put the mask and put you out on the tble last thing you saw was doctors nurses etc then during operation you die for a few mins well once your heart stops pumping so does the oxygen to your brain and your brain sends out electrical shocks and then its starts goin n goin you think your out of your body but in reality your not standing there on top of your body hahahaha but in reality its just your sub conscious thinking that your brain flashes memorys right to your child hood things you wouldnt never remember if you tryed its all the brain fighting for 02 peeps

sorry to say Ashes to ashes dust to dust your dead and thats all once your brain has depleted all its 02 the light runs out and your done
 
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