BK/SSH/JTR x Bagseed

d.c. beard

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Ive always thought once the bud drys the curing process cannot be redone. I guess you can always bring the cure back just by adding moisture?

I even seperated my shake.
Well, you can't undo a bad cure, that's for sure. But you can re-hydrate super dry bud that was dried and cured properly, and when you do the dank smell and flavor becomes pronounced once again in it.
 

aeviaanah

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I already jarred em. They were pretty dry when i checked around 8pm.
Lol...i forgot to take pictures of the nugs. Sorry.

I got a ton of seeds! Should seeds be kept in refrigerator until germination? If so with lid on or off?

I should get a weigh in here by this weekend.
 

d.c. beard

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I already jarred em. They were pretty dry when i checked around 8pm.
Lol...i forgot to take pictures of the nugs. Sorry.

I got a ton of seeds! Should seeds be kept in refrigerator until germination? If so with lid on or off?

I should get a weigh in here by this weekend.
Hey bro, let the seeds dry and cure naturally in the buds, or at least leave them out in a dark place so that they dry really well. Once they're bone dry, just put them into film canisters, jars, or ziplock baggies labeled with what the contents are (this is what I do, I use the little jewelry bags).

I actually usually write the strain (Female x Male), whether it's mostly indica or sativa, tall or short, yield description (low, med, high), and last the date that the seeds were done so that you'll know exactly how old they are when you go to use them 3 years from now or something. Once you have all your beans separated and labeled, you can then put them into a completely dark place at room temperature with low to average humidity. Actually, if you really want to preserve your genetics put a couple of grains of dry, uncooked rice in each baggie with the seeds. This is a desiccant, and will absorb any moisture that might get into the bag preserving the seeds. Gently squeeze out all the air, seal up the bags with the rice grains in them, and then you could put all of those individual baggies of seeds into one tight-sealing jar with one of those silica packets, which of course is another form of desiccant. Seal the jar up and then store in a completely dark, cool area.

They do say that storing them in the freezer will help them to retain their viability longer, but I can't stop thinking that the moisture in the freezer would get into the seeds and be bad for them. I mean, all our meat and everything we put in the freezer ends up getting freezer-burnt if you leave it in there long enough (like a year), so I don't see how this wouldn't affect seeds as well. You always end up seeing that crystallized condensation on the INSIDE of the meat packaging and stuff. So like I say, I keep mine in the dark in a room in the apartment here with low to average humidity. I've popped seeds that were years old and still had almost 100% germ rates, so the dark, dry room method can't be all that bad.
 

aeviaanah

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Too late i already seperated seeds from buds. I got about 200 of each lol. I put them uncovered in the fridge last night. Ill be sure to remove them when i get home. They are all sorted...with strain names written on containers. Will being in the fridge for 10 hours harm them? I will take your advice as soon as i get home.
 

growthspurt

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Too late i already seperated seeds from buds. I got about 200 of each lol. I put them uncovered in the fridge last night. Ill be sure to remove them when i get home. They are all sorted...with strain names written on containers. Will being in the fridge for 10 hours harm them? I will take your advice as soon as i get home.
I do not know from experience but I found this for you, hopefully this can help!! Also when your done , check my journal in my sig, I updated pics as you requested!

Storing your Marijuana Seeds for Optimal Germination Rates!

There will always be debate as to whether marijuana seeds should be stored in a cold environment, or simply in a cool, dry and dark place. While I believe in storing marijuana seeds in a fridge or freezer, this does not mean that I believe that reasonable success cannot be achieved with other methods. This is just the way I do it guys and gals.

A seed is a living thing, and when you put it into a cold environment, the life cycle of the seed slows down. This also means that the degradation slows which in turn means that your seed will last longer than it normally would in an environment where the life cycle of the seed continues at it's normal pace....it's why we put fruit and veg and herbs in the fridge...it slows down the life cycle and the decay, it's the same principle.

What to do

Get yourself an airtight container, eg: small Tupperware container, film canisters (which are ideal as they also block out any light) and place either a small amount of uncooked rice or loose/bagged silica crystals on the bottom of your container, these are both forms of desiccants which will soak up any moisture humidity around the marijuana seeds. You can use plastic baggies or envelopes to store your marijuana seeds. I prefer envelopes as they will allow any moisture that has been trapped around the marijuana seeds to be drawn out by the desiccant. Specially designed seed envelopes are available at some nurseries and local seed saver organizations.

I also like to label the bags/envelopes with strain, quantity and date received to make sorting easier. Put them in either your fridge or freezer....humidity/moisture and light are the enemies! Also, write a little inventory of what seeds you have so you don't need to keep the marijuana seeds out of the cool environment for too long.
Below is a guide taken from a local seed saver networks site that shows the effect of cooler temperatures on marijuana seeds.
"TEMPERATURE AND RELATIVE HUMIDITY OF STORAGE ENVIRONMENT Temperature and Relative Humidity are the most important factors affecting seed quality during storage. Relative humidity is the more important of these. marijuana seeds are hypocrisies, they absorb moisture from wet atmospheres and dry out in dry atmospheres. Seed storage life is doubled for each 1% decrease in moisture content.

The problems of maintaining seed germination increase with seed moisture content.
This can be generalized as follows:

Seed moisture above:

  1. 40-60% - germination occurs
  2. 18-20% - heating may occur
  3. 12-14% - fungi grown on and in seed
  4. 8- 9% - insects become active and reproduce
Heating is caused by the respiration of cannabis seeds, of fungi and bacteria in and on the seed, and of insect populations, which
may build up rapidly in a moist environment. High temperature and high moisture will kill cannabis seeds rapidly as will invasion of microorganisms and insects.

Seed storage life is doubled for each 5¡ C reduction in storage temperature.
Refrigeration to at least 5¡ C is desirable (this is slightly warmer than domestic fridges).
The cooler the temperature the more slowly seed vitality declines. This rule apparently continues to apply even at temperatures below freezing. At 5¡ C and below, insects become inactive."

I have heard reports of cannabis seeds stored in this manner being germinated with high success rates after 5 years of storage. Whether or not that is attainable for everybody or every seed will most likely be unknown until we gather ourselves a little data, but I believe that this is the best way to make that stash last longer.
 

"SICC"

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Too late i already seperated seeds from buds. I got about 200 of each lol. I put them uncovered in the fridge last night. Ill be sure to remove them when i get home. They are all sorted...with strain names written on containers. Will being in the fridge for 10 hours harm them? I will take your advice as soon as i get home.

lol holy shit man, thats alot of seeds :hump:
 

d.c. beard

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Too late i already seperated seeds from buds. I got about 200 of each lol. I put them uncovered in the fridge last night. Ill be sure to remove them when i get home. They are all sorted...with strain names written on containers. Will being in the fridge for 10 hours harm them? I will take your advice as soon as i get home.
Take them out, let them sit out uncovered so that they can dry out fully, and then put them in an airtight, sealed container where ever you chose (fridge or dark closet).

Hopefully the moisture in the fridge didn't already damage them.
 

aeviaanah

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great post growthspurt thanks! this was a good read.

took em out of fridge...they should be fine. lol they look fine that is.

i just did a quick count on the seeds and i have an estimated 160 bk seeds and 350 jtr seeds. i havent even harvested the ssh seeded nug yet. it is interesting seeing the different genetics involved and their impact on the seeds characteristics.
how much would this have costed me at a seed bank again?


jack the ripper coco- 350+- seeds

;
bubba kush - 160+- seeds
 

"SICC"

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damn thats crazy, so many seeds!

how much of a branch would you say you pollinated? Percetange wise i guess, just trying to get an idea how much i should do, because i want 100+ beans
 

d.c. beard

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[QUOTE="SICC";3837019]damn thats crazy, so many seeds!

how much of a branch would you say you pollinated? Percetange wise i guess, just trying to get an idea how much i should do, because i want 100+ beans[/QUOTE]

I would say a well-pollinated top bud on a side lateral close to the top cola 2-3" long would give you at least 20-30 seeds, so if you do this on 3-4 plants/locations you should easily get 100+.
 

"SICC"

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I would say a well-pollinated top bud on a side lateral close to the top cola 2-3" long would give you at least 20-30 seeds, so if you do this on 3-4 plants/locations you should easily get 100+.

ok cool, i got about 4 tops, so im planning of pollinating the shortest one, which is only about and inch smaller then the rest, then i got two more lower shoot's, 5 and 6 which kinda got shunned out, but are budding nice so they will get the pollen as well, that should give me a good amount. thanks for the insight!
 

"SICC"

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oh ok cool, that gives me a good idea on how much i should do, going to pollinate her on Sunday, im so excited! lol :mrgreen:
 

d.c. beard

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[QUOTE="SICC";3840332]oh ok cool, that gives me a good idea on how much i should do, going to pollinate her on Sunday, im so excited! lol :mrgreen:[/QUOTE]

You should take some pics and make a journal about it! You'll be glad you did afterward. Not during, but afterward. lol
 

growthspurt

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How were you able to pollinate and prevent the others from getting it as well with the fan going and everything?
 

"SICC"

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aight cool, i have seen some dieing already, but not as much as i thought, i re did the pollination, i used a good amount the first time, made sure i covered the bitch, so i did it again in the same spots, and a couple different spots on the other shoots just in case. guess i just gotta wait it out
 
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