BK/SSH/JTR x Bagseed

growthspurt · Feb 21, 2010

jcdws602 said:
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The Super Silver Haze sounds nice.........kinda interested in getting me some of those beans......don't know bout them auto-flower plants for me........funny thing just today my buddy offered me some auto flower beans........... I passed,and they were $free.99

Be waiting on those pics

Ok.. lol was that like your "stand" against auto flower..LOL OMG they must suck you passed them up for FREE!! lol

I wanted to mention since we JUST had this conversation the other day on here. I found that you CAN get fem seeds from an AUTO FLOWER and get enough seeds to continue growing your crop thus making almost ANYTHING anyone said bad about the usefulness of auto flower NULL. If you check this thread here
you will find that it explains how to hermi a female autoflower and get it to produce FEMINIZED seeds (beat that) of the auto flowering plant. So now SIRS and MA'AMs what do you have to say about that?!?! lol

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Anyways looking forward to those nugs when thy finally finish!!!

aeviaanah · Feb 21, 2010

Growthspurt.....the only thing going on here is three people dont really like autoflowers. Hey..if they are working for you then great. Before defending them so hard try to grow a regular plant you may find you also like them better. Lets agree to disagree before this goes any farther...

We also use collloidal silver to get feminized seeds.

growthspurt · Feb 21, 2010

I have and I like both, but yea dude not trying to argue, I actually came to post just the fact that auto's CAN do the same as normal strains and aren't buy once grow then have to buy again like D.C Beard meant when he said "Basically it's the one-time-use cannabis strain. Lame."

I just sometimes get upset when people brush auto's off like they are worthless and a waste of time, its like just treat it as another strain that has that ability not as this competitor to normal strains. We are all doing the same thing..lol.

but yea that C.silver stuff is cool, im planning on using it on one of my females next grow.

jcdws602 · Feb 21, 2010

growthspurt said:
I have and I like both, but yea dude not trying to argue, I actually came to post just the fact that auto's CAN do the same as normal strains and aren't buy once grow then have to buy again like D.C Beard meant when he said "Basically it's the one-time-use cannabis strain. Lame."

I just sometimes get upset when people brush auto's off like they are worthless and a waste of time, its like just treat it as another strain that has that ability not as this competitor to normal strains. We are all doing the same thing..lol.

but yea that C.silver stuff is cool, im planning on using it on one of my females next grow.

Auto are just not for me.......there are pros and cons for both regular plants and auto flower plants.....I just like being able to have control over my plants.....inducing flowering cycle when I see fit + I rather get clones than pop seeds.....just easier for me and I know exactly what I'm growing...with seeds the phenos will vary.......the only use I would have for autos would be for outdoor growing when the growing season is over...but other than that......heh........ :eyesmoke:

aeviaanah · Feb 21, 2010

front to back....jack the ripper soil, jack the ripper coco, bubba kush, super silver haze.

left to right- bubba kush, jack the ripper, super silver haze.

I ONLY HARVESTED TOP NUGS....LOTS OF LIL GUYS STILL LEFT ON PLANTS. ALL ARE ON HANGERS INSIDE CLOSET(+REP?) WITH FAN BLOWING ON LOW AGAINST THE WALL. DOOR IS SLIGHTLY CRACKED OPEN. SEEM ALRIGHT DRYING METHOD?

WHAT SHOULD RH AND TEMPS BE???

IM TIRED AND IM GOING TO BED...ILL HAVE SOME MORE PICTURES UP TOMMOROW.

jcdws602 · Feb 22, 2010

Damn nice pics :mrgreen:

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I dry between 65-75 degrees far....no direct air, just some air circulation in the room, bout 30%-40% humidity.....5-7 days of that then the jars.....your good in the closet.....with the hangers :-D

............what do you estimate your total yield is gonna be???

"SICC" · Feb 22, 2010

lookin great homie, nice harvest

d.c. beard · Feb 22, 2010

aeviaanah said:
front to back....jack the ripper soil, jack the ripper coco, bubba kush, super silver haze.

left to right- bubba kush, jack the ripper, super silver haze.

I ONLY HARVESTED TOP NUGS....LOTS OF LIL GUYS STILL LEFT ON PLANTS. ALL ARE ON HANGERS INSIDE CLOSET(+REP?) WITH FAN BLOWING ON LOW AGAINST THE WALL. DOOR IS SLIGHTLY CRACKED OPEN. SEEM ALRIGHT DRYING METHOD?

WHAT SHOULD RH AND TEMPS BE???

IM TIRED AND IM GOING TO BED...ILL HAVE SOME MORE PICTURES UP TOMMOROW.

Badass Aev! That's what I'm talking about! lol Dammit it won't let me rep you again yet! Those bastards.

But hey, as soon as you can, turn the fan around the other way. Put it right in front of the buds but blowing AWAY from them so that you're PULLING air through them, rather than blowing air on them in any way. I know you don't have it aimed on em or anything, but trust me pull the air through them and you'll be set. Bet.

And yo GrowthS, I wasn't trying to dis you or your autos man, just stating my opinion and a few facts. It almost sounds like you invented em or something! Anyway, whatever works for ya man. GL gowing.

melancholy · Feb 22, 2010

+rep for the hangers (guess who)

the bubba looks awesome, can't wait to see it cured

aeviaanah · Feb 22, 2010

jcdws602 said:
Damn nice pics .....
I dry between 65-75 degrees far....no direct air, just some air circulation in the room, bout 30%-40% humidity.....5-7 days of that then the jars.....your good in the closet.....with the hangers ............what do you estimate your total yield is gonna be???

Not sure..whats it look like to u? but there is still alot left on plants....check the pictures below.

SICC";3820320]lookin great homie said:
Badass Aev! That's what I'm talking about! lol Dammit it won't let me rep you again yet! Those bastards.

But hey, as soon as you can, turn the fan around the other way. Put it right in front of the buds but blowing AWAY from them so that you're PULLING air through them, rather than blowing air on them in any way. I know you don't have it aimed on em or anything, but trust me pull the air through them and you'll be set. Bet.

And yo GrowthS, I wasn't trying to dis you or your autos man, just stating my opinion and a few facts. It almost sounds like you invented em or something! Anyway, whatever works for ya man. GL gowing.

Thanks bud...as soon as i got home i turned the fan around...ill take your word for it. what does total yield look around?

melancholy said:
+rep for the hangers (guess who)

the bubba looks awesome, can't wait to see it cured

thanks man! hah!

Here are a few more from harvest. Again these are just top nugs. Picture below shows what is left on plants to finish for a week or so while hydro plant is finishing. As you can see super silver haze dominated most yield. bubba kush dominated in trich production and was up there with jack the ripper in soil. jack the ripper is a great strain but i just may let it go. i have a few clones yet but well see what happens.

This is what is left on plants

bubba kush closeup

bubba kush tops

jack the ripper coco closeup

jack the ripper coco

jack the ripper soil closeup

jack the ripper soil

super silver haze closeup

super silver haze

"SICC" · Feb 22, 2010

how much do you think the total yield will be?

d.c. beard · Feb 22, 2010

aeviaanah said:
Thanks bud...as soon as i got home i turned the fan around...ill take your word for it. what does total yield look around?

OK I normally don't quote a bunch of pics like this cause it make for a hella long post, but this is the easiest way I can do this. Oh and yeah you'll thank me later on the fan. haha

This is what is left on plants

bubba kush closeup

bubba kush tops Looks like 2.25 - 2.5 ozs to me.

jack the ripper coco closeup

jack the ripper coco Prob about 1.5 here.

jack the ripper soil closeup

jack the ripper soil About 2.5 looks like, whoo hoo go soil! lol Seriously though, I think the soil looks better than the coco.

super silver haze closeup

super silver haze

SSH looks like 2.5 altogether maybe.

d.c. beard · Feb 22, 2010

Oh and great trim job, you cropped it close like I do. Some people leave it kinda raggedy. lol

aeviaanah · Feb 23, 2010

super silver haze definately yielding higher than jtr soil. alot higher.

d.c. beard · Feb 23, 2010

That's cool, I just meant I thought the looks of the soil batch was better than the coco, but I could be wrong. SSH gets huge, but it's not as dense though. Well you'll know for sure in about a week or so anyway! I'm excited to see what the total was.

aeviaanah · Feb 23, 2010

you are right dc....nugs are huge but not all that dense. im just imagining how these would of done if i wouldve just stuck with soil. well see next grow.

humidity is 52 temp is 66. fan is blowing away from buds....with door slightly cracked. there are also louvers in my closet doors tho.

so when should i jar these? ive heard when the stem snaps but i think this is a little too long. i did this last grow and never got rid of the hay smell. when i pulled those sample buds i put em in the jar when the stem bent but not snapped. outer layer felt dry to touch. only been a week or so? i already have the dank smell. no hay.

d.c. beard · Feb 24, 2010

Funny you should ask,I just posted this for Drella! One thing that I've found out (almost the hard way once) is that you can always trim a couple of fan leaves off of your plants and pop em in any jar with bud and a day later it will be re-moisturized. However, you can't do anything about moldy bud once it's moldy. I always make sure my shit is very well dried before I jar it. This way it will keep for months without any degradation. OH, and btw the dankness comes right back with the moisture when you add the leaves. It will smell very bland when it's very dry, and then when it gets more moisture it starts stinking. They say optimal moisture level for long-term storage is 5%. For smoking however, optimal moisture level should be 10 - 12%. If you re-moisturize the bud up to a higher percentage, when/if you sell any you will make more money with more moisture in the bud. My guys get really good deals cause I'm too lazy to do this for em. lol Anyway, behold the cut-and-paste...

One actually wants their buds to take time to release their moisture gradually. Chlorophyll takes time to break down, and I read is somehow then carried away by the evaporating water molecules in the plant matter. So if the water molecules dissipate faster than the chlorophyll can break down, they dissipate alone without taking the chlorophyll along with them, leaving the chlorophyll in your bud making it harsher. They say a rel humidity of approx 50% and a temp of 65 degrees is best. Hang your buds from where ever IN THE DARK (I hang mine from the racks in the closet because I have the doors removed), and put a fan in front of the buds about a foot away blowing AWAY from the buds so that it is drawing air through them rather than blowing on them in any way. Hanging prevents further disturbance of trichomes, and also allows the air to surround the buds entirely keeping mold at bay. Just put the fan on med or med-low, the lowest setting that you can get away with using. You want the hanging trimmed budstalks to gently sway just a tiny bit showing that air is passing through them. Keep them spaced so they at least do not touch each other. They can be very close to one another, just not touching.

After about 6-7 days once the stems snap when bent (the lower branches that are really thin and spindly always take the longest believe it or not) you can start slowly trimming all the actual bud off the now dry branches, placing it into large mason jars. I never fill any jar up over like 2/3 full, you want a little room in there to move it around some every day when you burp them for the first several days after jarring. I just snip off the top cola portion first, then continue down the branch removing the remaining buds.

Once every thing is jarred up tight, for the first 3 days once a day I 'roll' the jars to agitate the bud inside and to loosen it back up again (it will have compacted down into a sponge by now), and then open the lids for about a half an hour. After that, just put the lids back on tight and put the jars back into a completely dark location. Light degrades THC.

melancholy · Feb 24, 2010

maybe an obvious question, but do you think using the buds' respective leaves would be the best? (for example, bubba kush leaves in with the bubba kush nugs, ssh leaves with ssh buds, etc) it seems to me like this would kind of preserve or maintain the true taste/smell of the buds?

oh yeah and the trimming does look really good

d.c. beard · Feb 24, 2010

melancholy said:
maybe an obvious question, but do you think using the buds' respective leaves would be the best? (for example, bubba kush leaves in with the bubba kush nugs, ssh leaves with ssh buds, etc) it seems to me like this would kind of preserve or maintain the true taste/smell of the buds?

oh yeah and the trimming does look really good

Yeah in theory, if you didn't want to adulterate the flavor/smell of any given strain you could always just use leaves from that strain to re-hydrate it with.

In practice though, the few leaves that you use for this application aren't going to impart any flavor to the buds anyway. So do whichever you want, because it really doesn't matter either way.

aeviaanah · Feb 24, 2010

Ive always thought once the bud drys the curing process cannot be redone. I guess you can always bring the cure back just by adding moisture?

I even seperated my shake.

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