For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

smokingrubber

Well-Known Member
Is it normal for the plants to drink more than eat ??
is it ideal for the nutes to stay at the same ppm between res changes?
It depends on how many plants you are feeding, and how much water is in the res, and how old the plants are. I have found (and heard) that 5 gallons per plant is optimum. I am feeding 8 plants with 40 gallons.

Once a month, I will flush my system with FloraKleen. I heard differing opinions, so I didn't do it during the grow. Next time I WILL. Everying was going smoothly until about week 5 (flower) when I started to get some lock-out. Next time I will definately flush once a month, just for 1 day.
 

morrisgreenberg

Well-Known Member
flush once a month, or i dont know how stable you PH is, but if a normal new fresh tank PH'd at 5.5 takes a couple of days to get into the 6's then everything is just fine, if start ph is 5.5 and next day its at 7.0 thats when you know for sure you need to flush. aniother good indicator is taking a water sample from the control bucket or from one of the pots of the left over standing water and check ppm/ec, if these numbers are drastically hgiher than what you maintan your res at then its time for a flush, and florakleen and clearex are awesome aslong as they are given a day or 2 or like 10-12 floods to unlock biuldup
 

dtp5150

Well-Known Member
is that big hole on the top of the reservoir too big? maybe covering that up with some plastic or something would keep the php more stable and overall healthier water. i've done this because that hole seems too big to not have a cover on it.
 

Blue Moonshine1

Active Member
havent found a grow yet that had success with STG inserts, although STG's other types like cubes work well but not with theE & G, on stg's youtube video they put a piece of PVC inside the buckets to raise the insert so it doesnt sit in water, even the E & G instructions say if plants do not look healthy raise each bucket, you can see why it could happen, given that 2 inches of water at the bottom can accumulate salts. these issues can be solved by raising buckets or flushing monthly. one thing thats not discussed is actual flushing, sinces theres water everywhere inside the tubing it will take a few days to get it all out, my flush method goes like this. day 1 - dump rez fill with plain ph's water. day 2 - after the first 24 hours and a few flood cycles the ppms in your rez will be higher after mixing in with leftover water in the system, for this i dumpe the rez again and add ph'd plain water again. day 3 - after another 24 hours i dump and addback again or until my rez water ppm is less than 200. i do this only because theres so few flodd cycles to give it a thorough cleaning withing a day and tons of clay pellets hold onto salts, no matter the medium monthly flushing is key to never have problems, so IMO only the cleaning of clay and a good flush are the only laborious parts of using this system, completly idiot proof and amazing growth rates, actually the only system out there that comes close or surpasses the growth rate is aeroponics, which i have ditched for this
man im so glad i found this thread!!!!!!! we just bought a 1000w MH/HPS and the 12 site E&G! Journal coming soon...:mrgreen:
 

bonkbonk

Member
Hey guys,

I'm installing my new Ebb N Grow system and the directions tell me to connect a 90 degree vacuum release elbow to the resevoir. It states that this elbox is the one with the silver tag.

I don't have any elbows with a silver tag and all of the included elbows look the same. Will it still work if I use a regular elbow?
 

shnkrmn

Well-Known Member
no. You really need that or your tank will siphon out, overflowing your controller and pots. Look closely at your elbows. The hole is pretty small. There might be some residue from where the silver tape was, look for that too. Or you'll have to contact the seller. You must have it.
 

cooley150

Well-Known Member
Hey guys,

I'm installing my new Ebb N Grow system and the directions tell me to connect a 90 degree vacuum release elbow to the resevoir. It states that this elbox is the one with the silver tag.

I don't have any elbows with a silver tag and all of the included elbows look the same. Will it still work if I use a regular elbow?

if for some reason you can't find it, do what I did. Take one of the elbows and drill a small hole in it. That,s all it is. The picture in the instructions should show you the placement of the hole.
 

dtp5150

Well-Known Member
i thought mine didn't come with it too but it was in the 2nd bag of parts. and yeah if you have a drill it shouldn't be hard t make a new one. the hole points down.
 

smokingrubber

Well-Known Member
My first grow was Hydroton. Not bad, but it could have been better imo. I have heard that Coco Cior provides a better final flavor. I believe it's organic though, so that may open a whole different can of worms for me.

Has anyone switched from Hydroton to Coco in their Ebb & Grow system? What advise or comments can you provide? I'm using GENERAL HYDROPONICS 9-part mix. All-chemical, not organic. I have been adding H2o2. If I switch to coco, would I have to go organic or could I stick with GH?
 

L.A.RAIDER

Member
man im so glad i found this thread!!!!!!! we just bought a 1000w MH/HPS and the 12 site E&G! Journal coming soon...:mrgreen:
I had a succesfull grow using the stg inserts. It was my first hydro grow and yeilded as much as could be expected.
That being said,
I am now using hydroton
I felt the stg inserts retained way to much water. when I threw them away after harvesting, they were very heavy and full of water. the roots grew very well in them and I only flushed 1 time for the last 7 to 10 days.
But I have not heard any one else say they any thing good about the inserts.
The 1 thing I can say thats kinda good about them besides there ease of use is the water that they do retain can save your ass if your pump fails and your bitches arent getting watered. they can suvive a long time with the water stuck in the insert.
But Hydroton is the better choice. in my opinion and everyone elses i think.
 

Quemado

Member
I fugged up my first GDP grow just some stupid impatient mistakes. I got 12 Chem 4 clones that have been in there for a week. They are looking cool
 

boxing119

Active Member
hey guys i switched out my rez yesterday and just went to check on it and it seems like there is some white foam substance ontop and outlining the water line, is this common or something to be worried about?
 

Str8Dank

Member
hey guys i switched out my rez yesterday and just went to check on it and it seems like there is some white foam substance ontop and outlining the water line, is this common or something to be worried about?
you should start a thread about this. too many variables to answer in here that just dont pertain to this threads topic.

the nutes you are using, any additives, airrate your res etc etc all would need to be answered to help you.
 

Str8Dank

Member
how far apart is everyone running their buckets?

i'm going to the full aqua flakes line as following the schedule to the T this rip. adding in Great White as well. i'm going to mix up a gallon at each formula change and check the EC before i mix my whole batch as i may want to cut it slightly to keep the ppm's in a acceptable range as i hear this line runs hot.
 

smokingrubber

Well-Known Member
how far apart is everyone running their buckets?
I just ran a cycle. I spaced them 1 pot per 4 sqft (2ft apart). I'm starting a new cycle, and I'll bunch them a little tighter this time. This time will be 1 pot per 2⅔ sqft (1½ ft apart).

Last time I vegged for 5 weeks (under 1000w MH) in the pots, this time I'll switch after 3 weeks. At least, that's the plan.
 

patlpp

New Member
QUOTE=Str8Dank;3912322]how far apart is everyone running their buckets?
I just ran a cycle. I spaced them 1 pot per 4 sqft (2ft apart). I'm starting a new cycle, and I'll bunch them a little tighter this time. This time will be 1 pot per 2⅔ sqft (1½ ft apart).

Last time I vegged for 5 weeks (under 1000w MH) in the pots, this time I'll switch after 3 weeks. At least, that's the plan.[/QUOTE]

Why shorter veg time? Your last grow was excellent. What nute schedule were you on again?
 

smokingrubber

Well-Known Member
Why shorter veg time? Your last grow was excellent. What nute schedule were you on again?
My last grow finished at, or a little beyond, the height limit in my tent. I had to bend over a couple tall stalks in the last couple weeks. Next time, I would prefer to have shorter plants ... less burn, less stress (on the grower too). If they're shorter and a little less bushy, then I will easily fit another 4 plants in there.

I'm on General Hydroponic's full recipe. http://www.generalhydroponics.com/calculator/index.html
 

DMG3528

Well-Known Member
I really love this system. I have tried several systems and found the E&G is the most reliable, dependable, trustworthy system on the market.
I have used flood table's to veg and moved them into the buckets when I was ready to flower them.
Worked flawlessly.
Now as I type this I am running 3 individual systems. Beans go from a seedling tray directly into the buckets. Veg until I like and switch over to flower.
Nothing special like spacers or anything. I have ran as many as 20 buckets per res. I like 10 best.
I have had problems with roots filling the feed tubes. As for problems that is the only one I have had with this system.
I use hydroton exclusivly.
Technaflora-BC line for the nutes.
Simple is better. IMHO.
 
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