How many of you are ex-diehard Obama lovers

[Dragline]

In some respects Im happy with Obama while at the same time I am disappointed. If you want to criticize Obama for broken promises, all you are really doing is saying he has not been Liberal enough. Certainly not as liberal as he campaigned to be. Him and Democrats just completely screwed up the biggest majority ever. They took a super majority and turned into cowards by easily caving to Republican and corporate pressure. I hated Bush, but damn at least he had a satchel between his legs. Granted it also helped Bush had the #1 radio media and #1 TV news media in his corner. Had Bush been a Democrat he could have NEVER gotten through some of the shit he did. The $500 BILLION Medicare prescription drug reform which was funded 100% by adding to the deficit. The Iraq war, The Patriot Act, Bankruptcy reform, Farm subsidies, etc... Can you imagine how insane Glenn Beck would be going had the patriot act just now been written under this administration and congress?!?!

With the current Republican push even further right. I seriously doubt they will run somebody I like. So i will probably vote for Obama in 2012 if for no other reason but to cancel out IllegalSmiles vote.

 

[GreatwhiteNorth]

I believe that the majority of American do not care enough to take part in a revolt, as long as social networking sites still exist anyways. Social networking sites are destroying America.

Apparently you are part of the problem by your own definition by participating in RIU discussions.

"Most social sites support the maintenance of pre-existing social networks, but others help strangers connect based on shared interests, political views, or activities"

Now the question is can you crab out of your statement gracefully, or will you quietly slink away?

 

[londonfog]

I have a question for all the people who say Obama will be a one term POTUS....WHO THE PHUCK IS GOING TO BEAT HIM ????? I mean for real if he is going to lose... who is going to win ??????

 

[Big P]

anyone with a conscience

 

[Dragline]

anyone with a conscience

Well that rules out a Republican then.

 

[londonfog]

Hmmmmmm no names ....Come on if he going to lose whose going to win ?????

 

[stumps]

Who ever it is to would be great if why were not Dem or Rep. Mybe a canadian would be good.

 

[londonfog]

ok but do you have a name ?????

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Hilary Clinton is a good possibility.

As is Mitt Romney.

 

[londonfog]

Well great glad someone had the courage to put up some names...Hillary said she wouldn't and I dont't think thats she would..It would cause so many problems in the party...Now Mitt does look like he is going to run and it is his turn up at bat within his party...So you think Mitt vs Obama ????

 

[Balzac89]

Apparently you are part of the problem by your own definition by participating in RIU discussions.

"Most social sites support the maintenance of pre-existing social networks, but others help strangers connect based on shared interests, political views, or activities"

Now the question is can you crab out of your statement gracefully, or will you quietly slink away?

Based onthe fact that forums nvolve far more discussion and far less posting of what you'r doing every 15 minutes.

 

[Dragline]

Hmmmmmm no names ....Come on if he going to lose whose going to win ?????

For Obama not to get renominated is so unlikely in my opinion. BUT, if he wasn't. It would be Hillary Clinton who got it.

As for Republicans I don't mind speculating some. First I would think come to mind are Romney and Palin. But i doubt they would even make it halfway through the primary. Romney being a Mormon doesn't sit well with Evangelicals and Palin is just.. well.. she is who she is.

Bobby Jindal I think would get walked all over in the primaries by Republicans who are better at playing the game of politics.

Mike Huckabee I don't see making it far in the primaries if he runs an unorganized campaign like he did in 2008.

Haley Barbour who is down here in my neck of the woods I just don't see gaining enough popularity above the Mason Dixon line or with any minorities. Southern Democrats can and have pulled it off. But Southern Republicans Im not so sure. I could be wrong.

In my opinion RIGHT NOW I think it could come down to Tim Pawlenty and maybe even Newt Gingrich with Pawlenty the favorite. The sins of Gingrich cheating on his 2nd wife all while preaching family values and trying to destroy Clinton for a BJ in the oval office can come back to haunt him. But i think conservatives love him otherwise. I think had Pawlenty been McCains VP which almost everyone speculated he would be, I can't guarantee they would have won. But I think McCain/Pawlenty would have done better than McCain/MILF did in 2008.

 

[londonfog]

For Obama not to get renominated is so unlikely in my opinion. BUT, if he wasn't. It would be Hillary Clinton who got it.

As for Republicans I don't mind speculating some. First I would think come to mind are Romney and Palin. But i doubt they would even make it halfway through the primary. Romney being a Mormon doesn't sit well with Evangelicals and Palin is just.. well.. she is who she is.

Bobby Jindal I think would get walked all over in the primaries by Republicans who are better at playing the game of politics.

Mike Huckabee I don't see making it far in the primaries if he runs an unorganized campaign like he did in 2008.

Haley Barbour who is down here in my neck of the woods I just don't see gaining enough popularity above the Mason Dixon line or with any minorities. Southern Democrats can and have pulled it off. But Southern Republicans Im not so sure. I could be wrong.

In my opinion RIGHT NOW I think it could come down to Tim Pawlenty and maybe even Newt Gingrich with Pawlenty the favorite. The sins of Gingrich cheating on his 2nd wife all while preaching family values and trying to destroy Clinton for a BJ in the oval office can come back to haunt him. But i think conservatives love him otherwise. I think had Pawlenty been McCains VP which almost everyone speculated he would be, I can't guarantee they would have won. But I think McCain/Pawlenty would have done better than McCain/MILF did in 2008.

Yeah you making good points all down the line, which makes me think in order for Obama to lose he would have to run on stage pull down his pants and then give his speech with his back to the teleprompter afterwards as he walks off stage he slaps Michelle on the azz and lights up a blunt and yells to the cameras " I'm Rich Bitch"...... OBAMA 2012

 

[Keenly]

Yeah you making good points all down the line, which makes me think in order for Obama to lose he would have to run on stage pull down his pants and then give his speech with his back to the teleprompter afterwards as he walks off stage he slaps Michelle on the azz and lights up a blunt and yells to the cameras " I'm Rich Bitch"...... OBAMA 2012

yeah you better ignore that less than 50% approval rating

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Hillary will pull a Ted Kennedy.

And she has said she would not run before....

Those listening tours work wonders on her resolve.

I have no idea who she would select as second chair. Bill, maybe?

For now, the Republican ticket appears to be Romney/Pawlenty.

 

[dukeofbaja]

I'll take Obama or Hillary against Romney or Palin or Gingrich or Pawlenty or Jindal.
I'd say Huckabee would actually be the best choice, that cute and cuddly evangelical.

Obama will likely be re-elected though. It's the economy, stupid.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

I'll take Obama or Hillary against Romney or Palin or Gingrich or Pawlenty or Jindal.
I'd say Huckabee would actually be the best choice, that cute and cuddly evangelical.

Obama will likely be re-elected though. It's the economy, stupid.

Yeah, the economy that's currently kicking his ass.

But apparently health care is his priority....

Not the economy.

 

[CrackerJax]

I voted for him and sadly, am dissapointed. I realize that to his credit, he has been hammered by the right on everything he has tried, but with his initial political capital, he should have forgone Bipartisanship and rolled full steam ahead on medical. Had he went for the medical bill upfront, I'm pretty sure he could have gotten a strong public option. By allowing the congress to fuck around for a year+, he has a real stinker of a bill that even may not pass. I'll either vote for him again or not vote at all, depends on what he can accomplish in the remaining months. If he loses health care, he's toast. He did promise a whole lot more than he's attempted, I wonder, did that ride on AF1 make him a slacker and just happy to be there.

No, Obama has been hammered by the people.... and he still doesn't get it.

If health care passes, you can forget about Democrats for many elections to come.

If Republicans cave on the issue, they will face the same wrath from the voters.

At this point, it doesn't matter who is going to run for the dem's in 2012. Either choice.... they will lose and lose big.

 

[Mindmelted]

Amazing that a year ago when this health care bull started 85% of americans had health insurance.
And out of that 85% about 80% Said that they liked their coverage.
So leave well alone,and do not force any one to pay for a insurance that they neither want or can afford.

 

[CrackerJax]

Anyone who thinks the govt. is going to reduce the cost of health care needs to have their head examined....