Dual Areoponic Cabinet, Ceramic Metal Halide

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cruzer101

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Temps 80 res 68°
PPMS 490 Ph 5.7

Quick update, not much change in the floro cab.
A little growth but still no roots popping out the bottom of the pots.








After planting the blueberry in soil I went and got the little one I tossed out. It was still alive in the bottom of the trash can.
I put it in hydroton. what the hell, it survived the trash can for a couple days. It deserves to live.





Now the larger cab is a different story...
Out of the six clones five are doing great, I got one problem child but she will come around.




Here she is on the left.















I have kept my light about 18" away. I wanted these girls to get used to there new environment before I turned up the juice.

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cruzer101

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Me either, I went to take the trash out and there she was.
The other two were dried up but she had green. I couldnt just toss her.

Just watch, she will be the only one that lives and gives me clones for days.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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They look a little better evey time I see them. Give it another 2-3 weeks and you'll never even know they had a problem to begin with.
 
Fred Flintstoner

Fred Flintstoner

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Gotta agree with DoeEyed on this one, its almost as if when someone might get into a grow slump and not be motivated, everything seems to magically grow on its own whether you like it or not... and then when you get all pumped up to grow and are way excited, Murphy notices and sets his laws into motion ;)
 
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DenseBuds

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Hey cruzer, what's the height between the screen and the cool tube glass? After this run of mine is done I am going scrog and I'm curious to see how much of a shelf I'd create.
 
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cruzer101

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DenseBuds said:
Hey cruzer, what's the height between the screen and the cool tube glass? After this run of mine is done I am going scrog and I'm curious to see how much of a shelf I'd create.
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Good idea.
As you noticed height is not what you want for a large yield under lights.
What you want is your screen about 10 inches above the center plants curving up on the sides to about 24 inches.

Before you add the screen arrange the pots in the center close together while starting your grow to get the most amount of light. Once they get 13 to 14 inches tall move the plants farther apart leaving a space in the center.
Add the screen at 10" center height and let the plants grow through the screen until they are about 4 or 5 inches above the screen. Thats when ya start training. I always make my bends right before the light goes on. That way the plant has a whole light cycle to get that top to curve up towards the light. If you bend it too far and dont pay attention to this the plant will choose another branch to send the growth hormones to and you lose control. Make sure the tip of the bend is at a 45 not pointing down and the wire or string you use is securing the plant to she screen about halfway up the bend. humm. gonna paint it.





That way to keep the top growing. You can point it in any direction. grow from right to left and left to right to get the max amount of stretch under control.
If you dont the side branches do get larger like SCROG grows are suppose to do but the difference isnt worth losing a main cola.

This is how I do it because if I dont get the stretch I can untie the wire and let it flower closer to the light. Another way is to keep pushing the top under the screen, if you go that route, when you make the bend make sure you have enough stem to thread back up.

 

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DenseBuds

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Interesting. I had only considered weaving the stem through the screen. Thanks for the diagrams, I'll have to give it some thought.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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Wow, everyone does everything different. I work my plants into my screnn a completely different way. Interesting how it all works. I let my branches grow 3"-4" through the screen, ten pull them back through the screen and move them over a hole or 2 and push it back above. all my branches run underneath the screen with only tips sticking through. heres a pic of under, you can kinda see it, but the main diff is mine arent actually tied down to the screen.
 
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DenseBuds

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When do you flip to 12/12? I've heard once the screen is 2/3rds full? How far into flower do you keep training. And lastly, about how tall do your plants get above the screen once you stop training. Thanks for the details everyone, appreciate it.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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DenseBuds said:
When do you flip to 12/12? I've heard once the screen is 2/3rds full? How far into flower do you keep training. And lastly, about how tall do your plants get above the screen once you stop training. Thanks for the details everyone, appreciate it.
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I have two 3'x4' screens. I use 3 18" clones to fill one and 6 small 8" clones to fill the other. Those are the sizes when they get flipped. I flip those their 1st day in the screen and they fill out 95% of it. I train then into it for the first 3-4 weeks of flower and they end up with an average height above the screen of 8-12". Last pic I'll post in your thread cruze, but its relavant to the talk, this is my screen with that layout the best I could get it to fit in the camera.
 
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