Laceygirls Grow

[Integra21]

I like that lst Lacey. I personally have never topped plants to be flowered, only mothers to keep the height down. But it seems like lst by tying or screens achieves the same results without cutting of any part of the plants and stressing them. I use medium sized plants to fill out 4sq.ft per plant anf get about 15-30 main tops per plant. Have you ever considered a scrog?
Here is my 3'x8' screen(cant get it all to fit in the pic)

and this is just the left side, a 3'x4' are being filled out by 3 plants(about 16" tall when flowered)

and thats under a single 600w.

 

[laceygirl]

Hi Rock, Ninj, Doe, Kmoo, Integra, Dave C and others who tune in regularly...

I like to tie them down like that, they respond well to it The stems are thickening and the growth rate is exponential... Rock, its the otherway around at our house....lol...

Good to see Kmoo finally rocking a journal.. I believe I was first subscriber....Yay...

Integra, I'm bloody impressed.. I wont top them anymore, might look at a screen to help, will have to look at that in the next few days... Screens make it really difficult to get around the plants though, that's my only concern... I'm always right in amongst them...lol... Just heading back out to the shed to check on things... Will be back with more pics of my NEW MOTHER TENT.... Its lovely...

About Scrog... Here in Oz, its the numbers that get us... Anything over 20 plants is considered "commercial" and unfortunately, they punish to the full extent for large numbers... It sucks... That's why I am trying this experiment... I got 29 bags of my last Widow grow and all I did to them was supercrop during flowering to control the height... Under 1400watts of light...

I am reckoning, I can do the same number, off these four plants with the proper care and support...lol...And with an extra 600watts of HPS power... So this time I went with 2 x 1000's with two plants under each... It should be interesting to see.. Its not going to be a true comparison as I am growing a different strain to Widow... But not too different.. Super Lemon Haze is a heavy sativa too....

 

[laceygirl]

I'm done... Its in and I love it...

I am such a brand whore... All my tents are EZ tents... They are excellent quality and they have really done me proud..

I now have the E Z Cloner

The EZ Mother Tent

The EZ Big Arse Tent

Mother Tent Inside....

I haven't worked out what kind of a watering system I am going to use yet... Will have a think about that....

Laceygirl...

 

[rocksteady6]

HOLY SHIT! You have it all covered. I take it the "big arse tent" and the "cloner tent" are empty. Am i right to think you are using that fluro with 4 bulbs for cloning and the 2x1000w for the BAT. What are you using in the mother tent then?

 

[Uncle Ben]

Howdy, nice garden and project! Have fun.

A little birdie told me there is still some confusion about what constitutes a true node. This is my take on it - if the area, the node, has a leaf petiole attached to it and is capable of output from the axis where the petiole joins the "trunk", then I consider it to be a "true" node.

Cotyledons don't have petioles nor are there any dormant buds located at their junction, I don't think. I'll get off dead center and stick some seeds into some dirt and do the experiment I said I was gonna do - start 4 seedlings, let them grow a bit, top 2 above the cotyledons and top the other 2 above the 2nd node.

You can play games with auxins all you want, this one is just easiest for me as I don't have the patience to deal with the maintenance of LST or SCROG. All of these training drills is a matter of auxins. Auxins are hormones that direct cell division and elongation in the terminal leader (apical dominance) while inducing some degree of dormancy in the lateral branches.

I don't think I ever posted these before, but this is an oldie (page one of the 4 Main Cola topping thread) that clearly shows the cotyledons, 1st and 2nd node topped for 4 main colas.

Tio

 

[laceygirl]

Thank you Uncle Ben.... Very much appreciate your time... Great for a reference for me... And thankyou to Dave also..

No Rock, the Big Arse Tent has my tied down Super Lemon Haze in it. I am only growing four this time... Eight plants took up too much room, not enough light penetration and not enough room to tie down..... The Cloner has nothing in it as I am still waiting to get my Rubbermaid Roughneck from the States... Should be here next week sometime...

 

[laceygirl]

HOLY SHIT! You have it all covered. I take it the "big arse tent" and the "cloner tent" are empty. Am i right to think you are using that fluro with 4 bulbs for cloning and the 2x1000w for the BAT. What are you using in the mother tent then?

My four bulb flouro (220watt) is for the little cloner tent.. I have the 400watt metal hallide in the mother tent, and 2 x 1000 watt HPS in the big arse tent.... I also have a 2 bulb flouro for my germination chamber/humidity crib for seedlings, (not pictured)... Will post that next time...I am now totally self sufficient...

Laceygirl...

 

[Integra21]

looking good Lacey. Mother tent is just chugin along. As far as the screen being a ain, you really have to plan for and set it up based on your needs. You can do like mine that is one huge screen covering your whole flower area all the way down to a screen for each plant of your own desired size. That option gives you the fredom to move plants as needed and easy harvesting of different strains. But tying gives the same results if properly done and might just be simpler for you to do.

 

[laceygirl]

looking good Lacey. Mother tent is just chugin along. As far as the screen being a ain, you really have to plan for and set it up based on your needs. You can do like mine that is one huge screen covering your whole flower area all the way down to a screen for each plant of your own desired size. That option gives you the fredom to move plants as needed and easy harvesting of different strains. But tying gives the same results if properly done and might just be simpler for you to do.

Hi Integra, you are always welcome in my journal...

You've definately made me think about simplicity...The screen could be easily attached to an aluminium frame (dirt cheap) set to a height of my choosing... It would be easier than tying a hundred pieces of cooking string, its the softest but strong....Can I please ask how far above your system do you place your screen, how much room underneath do the plants have before they start to hit the net? Thank you for your council integra... Laceygirl..

 

[Integra21]

I keep my screen about 8-10 inches above my plants. When I use short clones i just put them in there and flower and let the stretch fill out the screen and when I use bigger plants they are about 16-18inches tall and i put them in and flip to 12/12 and they fill out the screen like crazy. I dont veg them in the screen at all. As soon as they're in there its flower time. To give you a better idea of my room, its only 3feet 6inches tall. From the lights to the plants is about 12 inches. From the plants to the screen is another 8-12 inches. From the screen to the top of my dwc tub is about 8 inches and the tub is about 6 inches tall.

 

[DoeEyed]

Hey, Dave, I gotta admit, you were right! Aside from UB stopping by - I trimmed my vegging ladies tonight. Noticed for the first time, that every last one of them had six colas! Never noticed before, because for the most part the bottom two don't grow up to the other four - so I had always assumed they were side branches. So - doing it the way I showed you guys, will get you six colas. I don't recommend it though - I think this is why I've had problems achieving the size, with my buds. I cut them all off tonight - they would have made excellent clones, lol.

 

[laceygirl]

G'day, Laceygirl again...

Just an update on the big tent..

They are responding well to LSTing... They have really spread them selves out now which was the plan...I have huge 20 litre pots so they've had to stretch a bit... Not going to touch them today... Will look again tomorrow, but not much else has changed...

I love going into my shed now, it has taken me a long time to get to this point, (big shout out to the hubby for the build) but I am becoming very power concious... My usage and my bill are my biggest concerns... My shed is using a fair bit at the moment, so I am faithfully paying $30.00 a week off my bill...

Is anyone using the same sort of power usage as I am?

I am running 2x 1000 watters with ballasts
1 Air Conditioner (Portable unit thingy)
1 x 400 watt Metal Hallide with ballasts
1x 12000 air pump with 4 outlets
1 x 1050 litre an hour water pump
3 x Oscillating Fans
1 x 200 mm exhaust fan
1 x 100 mm exhaust fan
1 x 110watt flouro
3 timers
1 x ICubic Speaker for my iPod..

Not everything is on all the time.. The Big Tent and Mother Tent are on 18/6 lights just half an hour apart...

Please tell me there are more people out there like me????

Laceygirl....

Here are each of my plants....

 

[laceygirl]

I switched off one of the 1000's today... I can't get the lights close enought due to the heat, so it just makes sense to switch one off till I need it...

Its working perfectly, I can get the lights nice and close to the plants, I should really see some results in the next few days...

I will continue to tie down for this grow, but for my next I am going to try a screen... Not so labour intensive...

Will post more pics tomorrow, when I could be stuffed... Going to get some Fish for dinner... Good Friday and all...

Bring on the chocolate bunnies...

 

[laceygirl]

G'day all Laceygirl here, I have been in the Big Arse Tent, for a little bit, moving a few things around...

Now that I am only using 1 x 1000watt light I had to turn it the other direction, I reckon it gives me heaps better coverage...

This next pic is actually how far I have dropped the light... Its a little hard to make out, but with a shitty phone camera, what are ya gonna do?

This pic is just after I turned the light around before I dropped it down... The plants are coming along swimmingly... Its not a nice looking strain asthetically, not like an Indica, but its meant to be a great smoke... Will tie more down tomorrow only if it needs it..

That's it for me... Laceygirl...

My seeds better come next week...

I've also put the Blue Cheese (Pamela) and the SLH mother back in the big tent, to try and get more size so they can compete with the other two big mothers I already have in the mother tent...

 

[DoeEyed]

Hey girl, here's the revised pic for you. Sorry for the confusion!

As for power consumption - I run a fair bit myself, the only thing still off is my last two 600w. Once those last two lights go on I'll be loking at:

4 x 600w (12 hours a day)
2 x 400w (20 hours a day)
1 x 324w (CFL rack) (20 hours a day)
2 x 6" inline fans (24 hours)
4 x 8" inline fans (24 hours)
3 x oscillating fans (24 hours)
1 x humidifier (24 hours)
1 x water pump (24 hours)
Big house AC (runs almost constantly)

That's for the grow, lol - doesn't count items I run that suck juice like crazy - coffee pot, computer, big screen TV.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Thank you Uncle Ben.... Very much appreciate your time... Great for a reference for me... And thankyou to Dave also..

NP. First time I can say "you are one power hungry woman" and consider it a compliment. What kind of a breaker do you have that stuff on, 100 amp? I didn't bother to do the math but a wild guesstimate would be you're pulling about 60 + amps in all.

Keep dem electric boyz happy,
UB

P.S. - stay free

 

[laceygirl]

NP. First time I can say "you are one power hungry woman" and consider it a compliment. What kind of a breaker do you have that stuff on, 100 amp? I didn't bother to do the math but a wild guesstimate would be you're pulling about 60 + amps in all.

Keep dem electric boyz happy,
UB

P.S. - stay free

Hi Uncle Ben My electricals, I don't need a breaker as its all distributed evenly over three double powerpoints...Each system has its own powerpoint, I'm not sure how Doe has her electricials set up either....

I am not running more than 2400 watts off each point... And now I've switched off the second 1000watt in the big tent, I will notice a small power usage drop...

Wow Doe, that's cool...I feel better now thanks for jumping in the boat with me...lol..

Laceygirl.....

 

[rocksteady6]

Any seed deliveries yet LG?

 

[laceygirl]

Any seed deliveries yet LG?

Hi Rock, they should be here next week, I am hoping anyways... But I got a delivery from the States this morning by courier... My Rubbermaid Roughneck container has arrived... I can start to build my aerocloner, my second aerocloner anyways... Just need to buy a water pump...I'll have a look today...

Laceygirl...

 

[laceygirl]

G'day all Laceygirl again... The strangest thing happened to me today... I recieved a package on a Saturday, and it was my Rubbermaid Roughneck from the US... I am stoked...

Can't wait to start cutting holes in it...lol... I do need to purchase a couple more things before I can get it up and running though... Need a new water pump, I need to build the sprayer for inside the unit... Decided to go with waterhose for this build... PVC is too much of a shit fight, with the gluing and all that, just gonna use, connectors and elbows and endcaps, makes much more sense... The tubing for the water hose is very sturdy and can be built into shapes so I'll do that next week... I also need cloning solution and superthrive.. Looks like is back to Discount Hydroponics again...lol...

Laceygirl..