Conspiracy Theories

natrone23

Well-Known Member
Yo skunk I gave my opinion on this thread about 9/11....but theres been countless conspiracy theorys thrown around in since then...where should i start. I saw you mentioned something about Iraq being some sort of conspircy, I might agree with you, but can you clarify?
 
My message is not directed towards anyone....just putting thought provoking information on the board...very interesting topics.

There is a huge difference between conspiracy theories and DOCUMENTED FACTS!!!! The powers that be; pretty much publish everything they are going to do to the public at the publics expense (taxes). The North American Union is as real as the blue sky. All you conduct your own research. You cannot argue against documented facts. Also keep in mind those who make the decisions normally are not elected officials.

For example the Federal Reserve System - a private organization who make decisions concerning what your money is worth. If they can make decisions like that....don't you think they can issue a new currency at their own will? If they own the currency don't that that they cannot merge currencies to take over other economies.

Just because one does not believe in the laws being passed does not make it untrue -
What most of us have been taught for years are lies. Our government does not work in our best interest; never have and never will. Remember we're taking about those send men and women to war for OIL.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Yes... the only real conspiracy. All the others, aliens etc... are diversions. People will need conspiracies so they give them to you, keeps you all occupied and away from the real conspiracy. religion, tv, entertainment. All of it is geared to keep us away from the truth.

These things all make us feel weak... we sit here in comfort, while our minds are being controlled.

Iraq, and Afghanistan are covers for robbery. We set them up, and then we rob them.

If we needed this oil and opium, then it is dog eat dog, but the truth is we don't really need it, and should stop using fossil fuels altogether. We are in the nuclear age now. Yet still millions of people are murdered for oil, gold and drugs...
 

suicidesamurai

Well-Known Member
It's not "Contrails"...it's Chemtrails....and no....I'm not getting the 2 confused. And you go ahead with your own conspiracy theory:roll:
I think they are probably just contrails, which is why I said I see contrails all the time. Do you know what a contrail is?

I might just be working on a conspiracy theory. I think what I'll do is fake a news article and email it around to conspiracy websites, without providing a link. I'm sure some of them would run with it.
 

suicidesamurai

Well-Known Member
Yes... the only real conspiracy. All the others, aliens etc... are diversions. People will need conspiracies so they give them to you, keeps you all occupied and away from the real conspiracy. religion, tv, entertainment. All of it is geared to keep us away from the truth.

These things all make us feel weak... we sit here in comfort, while our minds are being controlled.

Iraq, and Afghanistan are covers for robbery. We set them up, and then we rob them.

If we needed this oil and opium, then it is dog eat dog, but the truth is we don't really need it, and should stop using fossil fuels altogether. We are in the nuclear age now. Yet still millions of people are murdered for oil, gold and drugs...
Robbery of what exactly? We are in debt up to our knees because of the war.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Robbery of what exactly? We are in debt up to our knees because of the war.
In debt up to our knees because of the war? What war? You mean the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children, surely? Now it's a war, now the people are fighting back. The t.v cameras will film a few people supposedly in hate for saddam, orchestrate things even, then show it to us as a total view of what's going on over there. It is ordinary men that are killing our soldiers. When you occupy a country, the people will start to fight back.

After the first gulf war, we had free oil from Kuwait for 5 years.

After the second, we have been laying oil pipelines all through Iraq.

In debt? To who exactly?
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
After the second, we have been laying oil pipelines all through Iraq.
AND Afghanistan:
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]On February 12, 1998, John J. Maresca, vice president, international relations for UNOCAL oil company, testified before the US House of Representatives, Committee on International Relations. Maresca provided information to Congress on Central Asia oil and gas reserves and how they might shape US foreign policy. UNOCAL's problem? As Maresca said: "How to get the region's vast energy resources to the markets." The oil reserves are in areas north of Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Russia. Routes for a pipeline were proposed that would transport oil on a 42-inch pipe southward thru Afghanistan for 1040 miles to the Pakistan coast. Such a pipeline would cost about $2.5 billion and carry about 1 million barrels of oil per day. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Maresca told Congress then that: "It's not going to be built until there is a single Afghan government. That's the simple answer." [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]

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[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Is an Oil Pipeline Behind the War in Afghanistan?[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]On December 8, 1998, Unocal announced that it was withdrawing from the Centgas consortium, citing low oil prices and turmoil in Afghanistan as making the pipeline project uneconomical and too risky. Unocal's announcement followed an earlier statement -- in August 1998 -- that the company was suspending its role in the Afghanistan gas pipeline project in light of the recent U.S. government military action in Afghanistan, and also due to intensified fighting between the Taliban and opposition groups. Unocal had previously stressed that the Centgas pipeline project would not proceed until an internationally recognized government was in place in Afghanistan. To date, however, only three countries -- Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates -- have recognized the Taliban government.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Besides the gas pipeline, Unocal also had considered building a 1,000-mile, 1-million barrel-per-day (bbl/d) capacity oil pipeline that would link Chardzou, Turkmenistan to Pakistan's Arabian Sea Coast via Afghanistan. Since the Chardzou refinery is already linked to Russia's Western Siberian oil fields, this line could provide a possible alternative export route for regional oil production from the Caspian Sea. The $2.5-billion pipeline is known as the Central Asian Oil Pipeline Project. For a variety of reasons, including high political risk and security concerns, however, financing for this project remains highly uncertain.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Oil Connection: Afghanistan and Caspian Sea oil pipeline routes[/FONT]

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Since September 11th, 2001, there has been intense speculation regarding Bush administration negotiations with the Taliban regarding this very project prior to the attacks. American petroleum giant Unocal very much wanted this project for years, but it was stymied in 1998 after bin Laden blew up two American embassies in Africa, causing the Taliban to be diplomatically isolated. There are a number of reports that describe a reinvigoration of this pipeline plan after Bush took office, and further describe the Bush administration's negotiations with the Taliban including threats of war if the project was not allowed to pass through Afghanistan. Some say these threats, in the name of the pipeline, triggered the 9/11 attacks. The Taliban is gone, Afghan President Harmid Karzai is a former Unocal consultant, and the pipeline deal is finally done.
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[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]t r u t h o u t - Afghanistan: Bush, Unocal Get Their Pipeline[/FONT]
 

mr.x007

Well-Known Member
Heres a little something from J-Leno.

Very interesting perspective by Jay Leno...

I hope you will all read to the end. Jay Leno puts it into perspective and makes us think about the pathetic negativity. That's right, JayLeno!!

Jay Leno wrote this; it's the Jay Leno we don't often see....

"The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came across some poll data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true, given the source, right?

The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of Americans are unhappy with the direction the country is headed, and 69 percent of the country is unhappy with the performance of the President. In essence, 2/3's of thecitizenry just isn't happy and want a change.

So being the knuckle dragger I am, I started thinking, ''What are we so unhappy about?''
Is it that we have electricity and running water 24 hours a day, 7 days a week?

Is our unhappiness the result of having air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter?

Could it be that 95.4 percent of these unhappy folks have a job?

Maybe it is the ability to walk into a grocery store at any time, and see more food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last year?

Maybe it is the ability to drive from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic
Ocean without having to present identification papers as we move through each state?
Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe motels we would find along the way that can provide temporary shelter?

I guess having thousands of restaurants with varying cuisine from around the world is just not good enough.

Or could it be that when we wreck our car, emergency workers show up and provide services to help all, and even send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.

Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home. You may be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case of a fire, a group of trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames thus saving you, your family and your belongings.

 

mr.x007

Well-Known Member
Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or prowler or intrudes, an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack or loss.

This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of bombs or militia's raping and pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90 percent of teenagers own cell phones and computers.

How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world?

Maybe that is what has 67 percent of you folks unhappy.

Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S., yet has a great
disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don't have, and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.

I know, I know. What about the President who took us into war and has no plan to get us out? The President who has a measly 31 percent approval rating? Is this the same President who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11? The President that cut taxes to bring an economy out ofrecession? Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled ungrateful brats safe from terrorist attacks?

The Commander-In Chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me? Did you hear how bad the President is on the news or talk show? Did this news affect you so much, make you so unhappy you couldn't take a look around for yourself and see all the good things andbe glad?

Think about it...are you upset at the President because he actually caused you personal pain OR is it because the "Media" told you he was failing to kiss your sorry ungrateful behind every day.

Make no mistake about it. The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have died for your freedom.
There is currently no draft in this country. They didn't have to go.

They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a ''general'' discharge, an ''other than honorable'' discharge or, worst casescenario, a ''dishonorable'' discharge after a few days in the brig.

So why then the flat-out discontentment in the minds of 69 percent of Americans? Say what you want, but I blame it on the media. If it bleeds, it leads; and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch
a car crash with blood and guts. How many will watch kids selling lemonade at the corner? The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They offer what sells, and when criticized, try to defend their actions by "justifying" them in one way or another.
Just ask why they tried to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book about "how he didn't kill his wife, but if he did he would have done it this way"...Insane!
Stop buying the negativism you are fed everyday by the media. Shut off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for t he bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as a country.
There is exponentially more good than bad.
We are among the most blessed people on Earth, and should thank God several times a day, or at least be thankful and appreciative."
Jay Leno 2007
 

mr.x007

Well-Known Member
Has anyone ever looked at a TV and thought about it being a giant eye? Next time your watching the boob, turn it off and just look at it, the gov. is watching us at all times.
 

mr.x007

Well-Known Member
oh and the contrails from planes are chem trails, ima try to find it but i read somewhere about it, they have used all shorts of imaging and found traces of solids, gases other than normal jet fuel exhaust, coming from the engines.
 

suicidesamurai

Well-Known Member
In debt up to our knees because of the war? What war? You mean the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children, surely? Now it's a war, now the people are fighting back. The t.v cameras will film a few people supposedly in hate for saddam, orchestrate things even, then show it to us as a total view of what's going on over there. It is ordinary men that are killing our soldiers. When you occupy a country, the people will start to fight back.

After the first gulf war, we had free oil from Kuwait for 5 years.

After the second, we have been laying oil pipelines all through Iraq.

In debt? To who exactly?
I ask a decent question about your assertion and you don't want to address it, instead ranting about people being slaughtered. I have yet to see U.S. troops suicide bomb civilians in Iraq. I can't say the same for those "ordinary men" you seem to admire, who do it everyday. If decapitating innocent people (like entire teams of athletes, for example, who are kidnapped and murdered all the time in Iraq) and purposefully blowing up women and children while they are shopping is your concept of "fighting back", count me out. Now, of course, civilians are going to be accidentally killed by Coalition troops in the conflict, and that is a shame. It is needless killing in a needless war. But it isn't the same as what the terrorists and insurgents are doing.
 

mr.x007

Well-Known Member
You know I can't stand Bush, but I support this war 100% You people expect us to just sit on are asses and have these cowards "sluaghter" the civiains on US soil? Our troops enlist to protect our freedom, I've enlisted to protect all of your freedoms. These towlheads are ruthless shitheads that plant bombs in cars bushes under the roads, in their babies diapers. Wrather you believe that 9/11 was a fake or not, and if we are their just for oil, we are their to help a country. The US has done it many times. Thats what we are all out, FREEDOM.

Another thing, when you wake up in the morning do you ever think, shit i hope i dont get blown up to day or i hope we dont get attacked again today. You live in America people suck it upn shut the fuck up, if you hate having so much then get the fuck out. Bunch of spoiled little bitches.
 

WhatAmIDoing

Well-Known Member
You know I can't stand Bush, but I support this war 100% You people expect us to just sit on are asses and have these cowards "sluaghter" the civiains on US soil? Our troops enlist to protect our freedom, I've enlisted to protect all of your freedoms. These towlheads are ruthless shitheads that plant bombs in cars bushes under the roads, in their babies diapers. Wrather you believe that 9/11 was a fake or not, and if we are their just for oil, we are their to help a country. The US has done it many times. Thats what we are all out, FREEDOM.

Another thing, when you wake up in the morning do you ever think, shit i hope i dont get blown up to day or i hope we dont get attacked again today. You live in America people suck it upn shut the fuck up, if you hate having so much then get the fuck out. Bunch of spoiled little bitches.

I have nothing against what you said, you're entitled to your opinion. I just have to ask...How do you feel about Russia's position in Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, and various other parts of the world post-WWII?
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
You know I can't stand Bush, but I support this war 100% You people expect us to just sit on are asses and have these cowards "sluaghter" the civiains on US soil? Our troops enlist to protect our freedom, I've enlisted to protect all of your freedoms. These towlheads are ruthless shitheads that plant bombs in cars bushes under the roads, in their babies diapers. Wrather you believe that 9/11 was a fake or not, and if we are their just for oil, we are their to help a country. The US has done it many times. Thats what we are all out, FREEDOM.

Another thing, when you wake up in the morning do you ever think, shit i hope i dont get blown up to day or i hope we dont get attacked again today. You live in America people suck it upn shut the fuck up, if you hate having so much then get the fuck out. Bunch of spoiled little bitches.
If you enlisted in the army or whatever then that's your stupidity. No one forced you to do so. Last I checked there was no draft. If our own government hadn't pulled 9/11 then we would not be over there creating more terrorists that are blowing shit up now. All we want is a government that truly cares about it's people...not lining its pockets...which will never happen.

On another note I was at the company Christmas party Friday night and was talking to a co-worker about his 2 year service in Afghanistan. He told me that he actually witnessed (on a daily basis) his commanding officers paying off the local tribesman NOT to bomb their encampment or whatever you call it. He said that if they DID get bombed then the tribe that did it was punished by not being able to bring the "market" to his squad. This just goes to show that we ARE NOT there to free the people, we are there building a fucking oil pipeline and doing our best to keep the locals off of our backs.:roll:
 

joepro

Well-Known Member
In rambo 3.....he fights along side of the Afghanistan "freedom fighters."
against the EVIL russians.
Funny how some things stay the same, just the names and sides have changed.
 
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